**Masterbation when using VED?**

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Mentos

Hello All and thank you in advance for your support!

I may have early signs of plaque in my penis ( Along the entire shaft, from base to middle of head of penis [on top] - is this possible?) and I am doing pretty much everything I can to prevent this. Currently I am taking ubiquonal, vit E, Arganine, and eating healthy and have recently purchased a 1 cylinder VED. I have used it a few times the past week but have some questions.

I learnt the protocol 10-15 second pumping while flaccid etc and did that but I also masterbated in between. Then when I would pump it was certainly 100% erection. My question is should I NOT MASTURBATE? And rather simply pump my penis and have the blood flow?

Another reason I am concerned about masterbating is because a few months ago i developed a thrombosed lymph channel in my penis and people online other places have said to stop masterbation for a while and hopefully it will heal...

Thank you all again

Norm

I don't believe that masturbation and pump therapy are intended to go together. The purpose of the pump is to cause repeated blood flow into and out of the penis. Placing an erect penis in it won't do that. Use the pump as intended, by the protocol. If you need to masturbate afterwards, ok. But don't do it during the therapy.  
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jackp

Mentos

I am in the process of revising the single cylinder exercise to make it a some what easier to understand.  I should have it posted in the next day or so.

I also do not recommend masturbation using the VED. The purpose of the exercise it keep bringing fresh blood into your penis. Masturbation afterward is OK.

Jackp
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inkhorn

Mentos- I understand the temptation, to go all the way, when using the VED, especially if the "milking protocol" is used. It's probably best to just do the therapy, and later take care of business another way. Regards Inkhorn

james1947

Inkhorn

As the forum is dedicated to Peyronies and not masturbation, is not necessary to mention "milking protocol" or other masturbation related protocols.
I don't want to delete this sentence as other sentences will become not relevant.
Sorry Inkhorn for my remark, I was not aware about this protocol for Peyronies treatment :)
If you wish, you may open a topic on different kind of masturbation's on the "Off topic" board.

James  
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

inkhorn

James- Sorry if that was a foul, but I was under the impression that the protocol I mentioned was for VED use and not for masturbation. Regards Inkhorn

LWillisjr

There is a 'milking' protocol, but the intent is therapy and not solely for masturbation.

Old Man can fill you in on the details.
Developed peyronies 2007 - 70 degree dorsal curve
Traction/MEDs/Injections/Surgery 2008 16 years Peyronies free now
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NeoV

The thing about masturbation, is that for me it is the goal and the activity along with sex, that we all wish to be able to do safely and effectively.

While a comparison is hardly fair, It's like my tendonosis (degenerative tendonitis) and weight training. If I do it too often or without absolute care, it gets worse and I'm back to zero. The goal is to be able to train heavy without resulting pain in the future.

With my peyronies it's turning into the same deal. The less and I masturbate and the more care I take when I do choose to, the better equipped I am for future sessions of sex and masturbation.

For me it's a really fine line between improvement and worsening with masturbation, but in general less is better for me. Since getting my VED I have for the first time in a long time been able to masturbate and orgasm without problems, so this is a big deal and I'm compelled to keep doing it. But on the third day of masturbating after VED, I noticed some inflammation and resulting bending. So I am not completely free of my post ejaculatory peyronies flareups. And it's these flareups that created my now chronic peyronies. I have to avoid this at all costs, and I think nearly everyone is in the same boat.

Follow what your body tells you, if too much masturbation is causing more hourglassing, hinging, and hard flaccid or bending, by all means stop! Try to stay, as long as possible in a safe zone. The longer we stay in that safe zone the better our future abilities become, and hopefully we become less and less likely to induce these kinds of flareups.

-V

Mentos

NeoV

Can you please explain to me what inflamation looks like? I am confused about this inflamation stage.

thanks

NeoV

Hey Mentos,

Inflammation for me, is a swollen penis after sex. It does not always have to have pain associated with it.
My penis will stay filled with blood more than usual and hinge at the point of the scar tissue more than usual after masturbation if there is inflammation going on.

If I am very careful with masturbation, I can generally avoid this. But it has been very hard for me to control.
Taking a break from masturbation will usually get rid of it until I masturbate without being careful again.

damian

Isn't it called MastUrbation?

NeoV, I don't think that's an inflammation. It's more that the pelvic muscles stay contracted for a while. I have the same issue.

Mentos


Mentos

thank you NeoV


The reason I ask is because what I am experiencing is a line down the center of my shaft from base to mid of my gland and sometimes it is more visible and more palpaple than at other times. I am wondering if this is associated with inflammation? I am also wondering if this is a typical peyronies development?

Regardless at this point I am taking on recommended Oral medications.

Thanks again

james1947

Mentos

I don't know if what you are stating is associated with inflammation, but it is a typical Peyronies development.
I have one chord like plaques that runs exactly as you are explaining and makes me a upward banana shape.

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum