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« on: September 15, 2013, 11:53:01 AM »

Currently I'm taking the GNC Mega Men Performance and Vitality pack 2-3 times per week.  In addition to this I was taking pentox and an additional L-Arginine pill 2-3 times per day.  I've decided to stop the pentox because I felt it was impacting my ability to engage in athletics (heart seemed like it would race more).  I want to go a little more natural, so I'm going to start taking CoQ10 and Citrulline daily instead in addition to the GNC pack.  I'm curious though, should I take both the L-Arginine and Citrulline, or just one or the other?

On another note, last night I was having sex after taking a 5mg Cialis and I lost my erection half way through.  Total bummer.  I'm wondering if not taking the Pentox anymore had something to do with it.  All of this is so confusing....
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Re: Supplements
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2013, 12:44:26 PM »

bummedout

Pentox is a heart medication. If it was causing your heart to race stopping was the best thing to do. You should see a cardiologist about the racing heart. I am long past trying pentox, but out of curiosity I asked my heart doctor about it. He said anyone with a heart condition should not take pentox off label.

Are you taking Cialis daily? If not that could be the reason you lost your erection half way through. If it continues you should be checked for venous leakage. 

Yes, peyronies is a confusing disease!

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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2013, 04:06:08 PM »

No I don't take the cialis regularly, only before possible sexual situations.  Like the pentoxifylline, it makes my heart rate increase and my face flush a bit so I don't like taking it too much.  I do have a venous leakage and this is the problem.  I've accepted that I'll have this bone like structure stuck in my penis the rest of my life that effects size and shape, but I can't accept that I'll never be able to have sex without my dick going limp again.

Anyone have any info on the difference between L-Arginine and citrulline, and if I should take just one or both?
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2013, 05:04:31 PM »

I have been told that Citrulline is much better than Arginine.  If you are younger than 40, Arginine is good, and if you add Cirtulline, it is even better.  Once a person starts aging, like over 40 and more, supplements are not as effective.  Actually, as we age, the More Supplements we seem to need.
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Re: Supplements
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2013, 07:31:20 PM »

To add to my comments about Citrulline and Arginine,..........The main thing that these supplements do is increase your Nitric Oxide.  Nitric Oxide will expand your blood vessels for better blood flow.  But, watch your Sugar intake.  Sugar kills the Nitric Oxide.  Do not be drinking soft drinks like Coke and Pepsi.  Try to keep your sugar intake down to around 12 or less grams per day.  The older you get the more important this is.

Just FYI...........
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Re: Supplements
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2013, 07:41:58 PM »

Bummedout Get a VED and use cock rings and the venous leak will be a thing of the past. I don't know what's going on with your heart, but if you do 5000mg of l-argenine prior to sex, you will see a difference. Regards Inkhorn
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Re: Supplements
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2013, 07:55:53 PM »

Oh greeaaat!  I love sugar.  Thanks for the info DP.

Inkhorn,

I've actually used a VED before, but it made things a little worse.  I'm presently trying my luck with traction.  Hopefully I can get back some size.  As for the cock rings, maybe I'll try that, but being that I'm 33 and not in any real relationship right now it might be a bit awkward.  I'll try upping my dose of L-Arganine though.  Thanks for the info.

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Re: Supplements
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2013, 08:04:14 PM »

Bummed- In the right setting with the right lady the ring doesn't have to be awkward. Many years ago I was given one to don by my lady that was designed for the pleasure of both of us, long before I needed one. Research and live! Regards Inkhorn
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Re: Supplements
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2013, 08:41:56 PM »

Bummedout,

You need to read this:

http://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,3052.msg47106.html#msg47106

That's gonna answer all your questions.


Also, if you're like me, you have venous leakage. That means the blood goes in but the scarring in your penis doesn't allow for the blood to hold so your erection goes down. I use a constriction ring, a vacuum device, viagra, and cialis to make it work. I do the vacuum device with the constriction ring on for 5 minutes (anymore than that & you get impotent) and then I sometimes inject QuadMix to help maintain the erection.

The cheapest treatment for venous leakage is traction and VED therapy. If you have lots of money you can look at stem cell and PRP therapy as well.

 
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Re: Supplements
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2013, 11:34:59 PM »

Thanks Matt.

I'm noticing that a lot of these supplements should be used right before the act.  I guess it doesn't stay in your system.
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2013, 05:32:18 PM »

Actually, depending on the supplement, it can very well remain in your system. Some like D-Aspartic Acid need time to saturate your system.

Also, you can break up the dosages and take them throughout the day. If you need some extra power for sex or exercising, you can just take them 30 minutes before the activity.

These supplements work great for me. My testosterone increased about 40% over a 6 week time period.

I highly recommend them.

Also, check into Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). If your testosterone is low or you want to boost it to help deal with Peyronie's, HCG will force your testes to produce more testosterone. This is something that should be explored with you doctor.
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2013, 09:11:37 PM »

Matt, I did a run of HCG a few years back in preparation for T and HGH and followed the Simeon protocol for weight loss. Lost 30 lbs in 30 days and never gained it back staying on T,HGH, and Sermorlin a lot of the time since. Never read about the testes deal, why not just go right to T? Regards Inkhorn
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2013, 02:10:57 AM »

HCG injected will make the testicles produce testosterone. Making it naturally is always better than adding it. Also, if you're on testosterone for long term, your testicles might shrink. HCG will prevent that from happening.
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Re: Supplements
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2013, 07:07:31 AM »

Matt- I seem to remember that guys in competition do some right before a show to get cut, but never knew about the T, I 'll look into it, Thanks Inkhorn
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