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Injections to Un-soften Soft Erections?
« on: March 06, 2013, 04:09:48 PM »

i've noticed my erections getting softer. i'm not able to get morning wood like i used to a month ago. i have trimix which i havent used for many months. do u think i should inject myself with it to maybe "unclog" or widen the corpus cavernosum?
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2013, 05:59:10 PM »

koolx,

Don't inject your penis with trimix. There is a good chance you could re-injure and worsen your Peyronie's. You cannot "unclog" a poor erection, it doesn't work that way. You will hurt yourself. Instead, get a prescription for Cialis or Viagra or even try some over-the-counter L-Arginine supplements. Are you stressed out or on other medications? These may be causing the problem. See a doctor about it.

If you want to gently exercise the penile tissues, use a VED. There is a huge thread on the subject and I suggest you read it.

Bears repeating: don't inject yourself. Don't do it.

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Re: Injections to Un-soften Soft Erections?
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2013, 06:23:32 PM »

Listen to Skjaldborg.  For starter poking even skinny needles in your penis is injury. Second, one side effect of one o the tri-mix drugs is possible fibrosis.  That means there is a far greater chance the trimix will cause fibrosis then there ever was that Rispredal would cause it.  Skjaldborg gave you some far better suggestions.

Also there is nothing clogged up so there is nothing to unclog.
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2013, 09:51:27 PM »

You can also try Muse. That is a little pellet you insert into your urethra. It will give you an erection minus the sinus congestion. The only thing is that if you have to pay out of pocket, it's incredibly expensive. I got 6 free samples from one of my urologists.

For cost, practicality, and efficiency, you can't beat Cialis and Viagra.

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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2013, 10:56:21 PM »

You can also try Muse. That is a little pellet you insert into your urethra. It will give you an erection minus the sinus congestion. The only thing is that if you have to pay out of pocket, it's incredibly expensive. I got 6 free samples from one of my urologists.

For cost, practicality, and efficiency, you can't beat Cialis and Viagra.

muse casues a buring sensation in the penis. and as a result can worsen Erectile Dysfunction.
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Re: Injections to Un-soften Soft Erections?
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2013, 10:59:19 PM »

Don't inject your penis with trimix. There is a good chance you could re-injure and worsen your Peyronie's. You cannot "unclog" a poor erection, it doesn't work that way. You will hurt yourself. Instead, get a prescription for Cialis or Viagra or even try some over-the-counter L-Arginine supplements. Are you stressed out or on other medications? These may be causing the problem. See a doctor about it.

If you want to gently exercise the penile tissues, use a VED.

hi Skjald.. thanks for the concern. but i need to correct u. i dont have peyronies. i got Erectile Dysfunction from a med i took yrs ago. cialis and viagara dont work as well as they used to which is a mystery to me. i've used trimix before. it did cause a bend in my penis of about 20 - 30 degrees. but i dont have peyronies. thats why i asked if its ok for me to keep injecting given my situation.
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Re: Injections to Un-soften Soft Erections?
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2013, 12:23:31 AM »

Koolx,

I respectfully don't think you know what you have.  I certainly do not know.  Many men (millions) get Erectile Dysfunction.  Some develop Erectile Dysfunction after taking insulin, some after taking blood thinners, some after taking meds for acid reflux, some getting new hiking boots.  That does not mean thoes things caused the Erectile Dysfunction.  It is difficult for me to accept that a med you have not been on for years is currently causing Erectile Dysfunction.  I am not a doctor but I have some familiarity with Risperdal and I have been on these forums almost daily for over 7 years.

After you say you don't have Peyronies, you talk about a hourglass deformity and a 30 degree bend from trimix injections.  What do you think caused your penis to deform into another shape if it was not scar tissue?

If you read MUST READ BEFORE YOU POST - Information for new members - Peyronies Society Forums  then you know the first order of business is to get a proper diagnosis.
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Re: Injections to Un-soften Soft Erections?
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2013, 12:57:59 AM »

koolx, you're talking about having used Trimix and you're worried about Muse? I tried Muse 3 times and the first time it stung just a tiny bit but nothing bad. I followed the instructions and the sting disappeared within 30 seconds or so. The second and third time it was no problem.

Nevertheless, it's expensive and not very practical.

And, as Hawk stated, you need to get your condition properly diagnosed before diving in head first into anything.


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Re: Injections to Un-soften Soft Erections?
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2013, 12:14:06 PM »

One more thing.  After a proper diagnosis to see if some serious health issue is causing your Erectile Dysfunction, since Erectile Dysfunction is your only concern, have you considered an implant?
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2013, 05:23:23 PM »

Koolx,

I respectfully don't think you know what you have.  I certainly do not know.  Many men (millions) get Erectile Dysfunction.  Some develop Erectile Dysfunction after taking insulin, some after taking blood thinners, some after taking meds for acid reflux, some getting new hiking boots.  That does not mean thoes things caused the Erectile Dysfunction.  It is difficult for me to accept that a med you have not been on for years is currently causing Erectile Dysfunction.  I am not a doctor but I have some familiarity with Risperdal and I have been on these forums almost daily for over 7 years.

After you say you don't have Peyronies, you talk about a hourglass deformity and a 30 degree bend from trimix injections.  What do you think caused your penis to deform into another shape if it was not scar tissue?

i know EXACTLY what i got. and i dont believe i got to repeat myself again after i posted how i got Erectile Dysfunction. i'll say it again since 1 or 2 of u have difficulty reading. here it goes.. in '96 i was forced to take a med that gave me extreme pain in my groin. i complained to the doc about it but he kept giving it to me. i noticed after a month of being on it, that my penis got an hour glass shape at the base. if u dont want to beleive this, then do me a big favor and dont comment.

theres a theory that those who dont accept stories like mine are those who probly are either pro-pharma or working for the pharmafia. if this is u, DONT comment on my posts. nothing is worse in life than having an idiot not believe what u got or is pro-pharma, protecting the interests of the maker of the med for alterior motives.

now because of the Erectile Dysfunction, i began to inject with trimix. it worked for a while but after 4 months being on it, i noticed it caused a bend in my penis on the left side about 30 degrees. the uro checked me out and said that i dont have plaque or peyronies but the injection did cause the bend.

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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2013, 05:26:06 PM »

koolx, you're talking about having used Trimix and you're worried about Muse? I tried Muse 3 times and the first time it stung just a tiny bit but nothing bad.

when youre traumatized by a bend in the penis by an injection, u begin to develop a justified fear of anything being introduced into ur penis. u've never tried trimix before and ur judging this situation like u did?
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2013, 05:28:52 PM »

One more thing.  After a proper diagnosis to see if some serious health issue is causing your Erectile Dysfunction, since Erectile Dysfunction is your only concern, have you considered an implant?

an implant.. wow! so thats youre answer to everything, huh? no talk about stem cells, prp, stretching, just go straight to the plastic.. next i'm sure you'll suggest some "good implants" for me "off the top of ur head".

thanks but i dont want to be persuaded by guys iike u selling me yet another product. looks like the pharmafia found an ally in the implant industry.
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2013, 06:55:49 PM »

You are way out of line Koolx, take a look back through Hawk's posts and you'll see just how wrong you are. Plus he said "After a proper diagnosis" and with that caveat the suggestion is completely pertinent.

Beyond that though, you need to get a proper diagnosis. If cialis and viagra do nothing for you, then there is a chance you may be diabetic or pre-diabetic. Or you might have a venous leak. Or it could be something else entirely. No-one on here will be able to diagnose the problem based on your posts.
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2013, 10:01:56 PM »

Koolx,

I know you are upset; all of us here have been angry at one time or another due to the issues we are dealing with. Please understand that the folks here, and Hawk in particular, are not trying to push any treatment on you. We merely offer suggestions. We are here to help. It does not make sense to get angry or respond with name calling.

That being said, if you believe injecting trimix caused a bend in the past, why would you want to do it again? Injections are risky and especially so if you have had poor results, like bending, in the past.

I earnestly recommend that you go to a male sexual health specialist urologist. They may be able to recommend a new dosage of Viagra or Cialis that works for you. If venous leakage is the issue, there are VED devices that use constriction rings to achieve and maintain erection. There are many options for you to explore.

Finally, the suggestion of an implant is not outrageous. There are men on this forum who have gotten them due to severe Erectile Dysfunction and they are quite satisfied. It is a legitimate final option when all else fails. Obviously, you'll want to try everything else first.

Good luck.

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Re: Injections to Un-soften Soft Erections?
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2013, 10:59:46 PM »

Koolx,

I understand you are new here and that you are upset.  There are many here that have been here for years, since we started this in fact over 7 years ago.  They all know that your accusations and characterizations are way off base.  I started this forum after contracting Peyronies Disease from what I believe was using trimix 2 to 3 times a week for 8 months.  My plaque started at the injections sites.

We have men here that feel like they have regained their youth and were fools to wait years before having an implant.  In fact we probably have a higher percentage of satisfied men from implants than any treatment.  I however have only stated about 3000 times on this forum that surgery is a last option.  You however have told us:
1.. You have suffered with Erectile Dysfunction for years
2.. You are not interested in Muse
3. Your have already been damaged by trimix
4. and apparently oral Erectile Dysfunction drugs don't work (since everyone try those before trying Trimix).
5. And that you are "desperate"

So, simply asking you if you considered an implant after a proper diagnosis, is hardly going straight to plastic as you say nor is it my answer to everything.  I would suggest starting with L-arginine, Oral Erectile Dysfunction drugs, and trying an VED for erections before sex.  Since even Trimix stopped working for you I figure you have been through most of that.  Rarely does someone try Trimix as a first line treatment for Erectile Dysfunction.  If you choose to spend more years waiting on break through in stem cells, or some other discoveries then I support that.  But it was you that said you were desperate for a solution now.  And you must be desperate if you would actually consider injecting more trimix after telling use what it did to you.  That kind of desparation is far worse than suggesting an implant because after scarring your penis you will have to consider an implant that is smaller than the one you would get before Trimix.  I won't however accuse you of being in the tank for pharma just because you are pushing the idea of Trimix.

I can tell you right now that stretching certainly is NOT going to fix your Erectile Dysfunction.  I have as much experience dealing with Erectile Dysfunction as any man on this forum.  I have experience with stretching, VED, injections, oral Erectile Dysfunction drugs, constriction rings and loops, and supplements like L-arginine and  more.

Now, if you want us to stop responding to your posts then we will.  We would prefer to help you with solutions you can discuss and choose from however, but that is up to you.

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« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2013, 01:09:22 AM »

Koolx
 
 Injecting yourself is a risky job. Theres a right way to do it and a wrong way a few doctors ive seen wont even do it.
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« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2013, 05:35:24 AM »

Many men (millions) get Erectile Dysfunction.  Some develop Erectile Dysfunction after taking insulin, some after taking blood thinners, some after taking meds for acid reflux, some getting new hiking boots.  That does not mean thoes things caused the Erectile Dysfunction.  It is difficult for me to accept that a med you have not been on for years is currently causing Erectile Dysfunction.

Wait, so is Erectile Dysfunction linked to acid reflex prescription meds? Specifically proton pump inhibitors? This could explain my Erectile Dysfunction if so.
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« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2013, 11:02:01 AM »

Craig:

I have been prescribed Nexium (generic omeprazole 40 MG) before morning meal for my acid reflux. This was over a year ago now and I have had no Erectile Dysfunction problems. Since I am 84 YO, my Erectile Dysfunction would be related to that advanced age.

However, with manual stimulation and/or the VED I can achieve erections at any time I desire and have the incentive, etc. I do use cock rings to hold up any resulting erections.

I have not noticed any difference in this ability since being RXd the Nexium for the reflux problem.
Just on man's opinion and experience though.

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