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wayne999

Quote from: ComeBacKid on May 31, 2010, 12:18:24 PM
Wayne,

Are you finding that A cylinder is to tight, and C is to wide?  A is actualy supposed to be tight, I found B cylinder to be the best fit for me. 


Thanks for replies guys. I haven't got any VED yet so i was just wondering if the cylinders that come with the Fitzz thing aren't as "optimal" as i might need, then would there be an easy solution.  I agree with what BrooksBro is saying in that the key is to get the cylinder to be a good fit to the pump device. I tried emailing Mark at Fitz about how well their device could accomodate varying sized diameter cylinders but got no reply. I am slightly hesitant of going down the DIY path because i am a bit clumsy and would not want to put my member in any kind of danger :)


Old Man

Wayne:

Pulll up the Fitzz web site, get their 800 number and call Mark directly. If he is not available, there will be someone that can help you with any information you need to know.

Old Man
Age 92. Peyronies Disease at age 24, Peyronies Disease after
stage four radical prostatectomy in 1995, Heart surgery 2004 with three bypasses/three stents.
Three more stents in 2016. Hiatal hernia surgery 2017 with 1/3 stomach reduction. Many other surgeries too.

joe

Hi all, I just wanted to drop in to tell everyone that after lurking around and reading the VED posts for over a year I finally bit the bullet and bought the 3 cylinder VED from Fittz.  I received it in the mail quickly and it seems to be well made.  I am only in the second week of the 26 week protocol but I am already pleased with the results thus far. 

For the record, I have a ~45 degree bend upward starting about 2.5 inches from the base.  There was also a significant hourglass shape at the bend.  I have also been taking Pentox twice a day for about 3 months.  The VED has already helped the hour-glassing such that it is almost no longer noticeable.  The upward bend though only seems marginally better, but I am optimistic since I just started.  I will keep track and provide updates on any progress I see.    ;)

-Joe 

hb

I had the same thing happen with the 3 Tube VED. The hourglass shape is completely gone but I still curve. Although not as much, just more weeks use to go.

mike67

Is anyone presently using a Sex Shop VED? My Urologist, after being diagnosed last week , sent me to "Arent We Naughty "( that is the correct store name) and I selected a Precision Pump from California Exotic Novelties 
Joined just last week and shared this info with the Old Man. He is supportive but mentioned it will take longer to achieve results. We since exchanged messages when I thought I would look seriously at Fitzz.
But - in the meantime - does anyone have any comments on their experiences and results, if any, with a single chamber "sex shop" pump?
I am on my 8 th night using the Jackp / Old Man protocol.
Mikey

Old Man

Pete28:

Sorry I cannot answer your PM of this date. I tried, but your inbox is full and cannot receive any more PMs. So, check your inbox and delete some some that PMs will be received.

Just open the box, select the oldest you no longer want and delete them. Check to see how many you are allowed before getting full on an ongoing basis, so this won't happen for you.

Old Man
Age 92. Peyronies Disease at age 24, Peyronies Disease after
stage four radical prostatectomy in 1995, Heart surgery 2004 with three bypasses/three stents.
Three more stents in 2016. Hiatal hernia surgery 2017 with 1/3 stomach reduction. Many other surgeries too.

despise

Hi guys I have some bad news. My VED is broken. So I sent my warranty to the company but not my broken VED yet. Will I get a brand new VED back for free? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Despise

newguy

despise - What did it state on the warranty? I would think if it's still under warranty, they will either replace the unit, or fix it, which should have the same end result for you.

neidz

I had a radical prostetectomy July of 2007.  I developed Peyronies about a 1.5 years ago. 

I kind of chewed out my Eurologist in May 2010--(supposed to be one of the most qualified on Peyronies in the Western States), he pretty much told me to take a hike.  I was only frustrated because all the doctors I have seen are so passive and act like there is nothing you can do.  They only throw out options for you to choose from.  I don't know if it's a liability issue or what.  I don't blame anyone, I just want to get on the most logical track.

A couple months ago I commented on the Fastsize.  I thought it was aggravating the plaque.  I believe I returned it in February this year.  My size and girth have reduced probably 20%--probably more since I quit using the Fastsize, based on my wife's input.  Fastsize obviously was meeting my needs in those areas.  I have been taking Pentox for about 4 months.  I tried to buy the Augusta 3 cylinder VED unit about March timeframe--my insurance (Altius) refused to cover it.  I am going to send an explanation and hopefully have them reconsider.  I am a little confused which direction to go now, after procrastinating.  I definitely want to regain the length and girth shorterm, but want to address the curvature long term.  I probably used the Fastsize too agressively--causing a lot of pain from cutting off blood circulation and the constant pull in several areas of the penis.  I used the Fastsize in several ways and angles--thinking the typical setting was pushing on the curvature and increasing the degrees of the curve.

Has anyone ever tried using both methods--the VED and the Fastsize for a stretch of time...............
Neidz


skunkworks

Quote from: neidz on July 05, 2010, 06:54:24 PM
I had a radical prostetectomy July of 2007.  I developed Peyronies about a 1.5 years ago. 

I kind of chewed out my Eurologist in May 2010--(supposed to be one of the most qualified on Peyronies in the Western States), he pretty much told me to take a hike.  I was only frustrated because all the doctors I have seen are so passive and act like there is nothing you can do.  They only throw out options for you to choose from.  I don't know if it's a liability issue or what.  I don't blame anyone, I just want to get on the most logical track.

A couple months ago I commented on the Fastsize.  I thought it was aggravating the plaque.  I believe I returned it in February this year.  My size and girth have reduced probably 20%--probably more since I quit using the Fastsize, based on my wife's input.  Fastsize obviously was meeting my needs in those areas.  I have been taking Pentox for about 4 months.  I tried to buy the Augusta 3 cylinder VED unit about March timeframe--my insurance (Altius) refused to cover it.  I am going to send an explanation and hopefully have them reconsider.  I am a little confused which direction to go now, after procrastinating.  I definitely want to regain the length and girth shorterm, but want to address the curvature long term.  I probably used the Fastsize too agressively--causing a lot of pain from cutting off blood circulation and the constant pull in several areas of the penis.  I used the Fastsize in several ways and angles--thinking the typical setting was pushing on the curvature and increasing the degrees of the curve.

Has anyone ever tried using both methods--the VED and the Fastsize for a stretch of time...............
Neidz



I am using both. I've gained a little big of length and girth (up to and beyond what I lost) and it has improved erection quality by a lot.
This is an emotionally destructive condition, we all have it, let's be nice to each other.

Review of current treatment options by Levine and Sherer]

Davea

Quote from: mike67 on June 30, 2010, 11:10:46 PM
Is anyone presently using a Sex Shop VED? My Urologist, after being diagnosed last week , sent me to "Arent We Naughty "( that is the correct store name) and I selected a Precision Pump from California Exotic Novelties 
Joined just last week and shared this info with the Old Man. He is supportive but mentioned it will take longer to achieve results. We since exchanged messages when I thought I would look seriously at Fitzz.
But - in the meantime - does anyone have any comments on their experiences and results, if any, with a single chamber "sex shop" pump?
I am on my 8 th night using the Jackp / Old Man protocol.

Mike67

Yes, I have one but only because I'm living in a country where I can't get the 3 cylinder medical grade model. I had quite impressive results (reduction in curvature and reduction of the 'hour glass effect') after only a couple of weeks use but then after 2 months I held the vacuum for too long (30-45 seconds rather than 10-20 seconds) and developed bruising and swelling. After checking with Old Man, God bless him, I stopped using it. It took 2 months for the bruising to disappear so I've only recently, and very carefully, started again. BTW everything I gained during the first 2 months I lost during the healing period so stick strictly to the protocol would be my advice.

IMHO a 'sex-shop' pump is better than not doing anything. Any improvement is better than just praying for the 'magic cure' to come along.

I'm just about to move - does anyone know where I can buy the Soma (or another medical grade) pump in Europe? I've tried the US distributor but they just don't answer my emails.

Old Man

Davea:

I am sorry that you did not get an answer from the Fitzz company. They do ship all over the world, even to countries where there is no distributor of Augusta Medical Systems VEDs. Go to this link and get their web site URL address and send an email to the president of the Fitzz company, Mr. Mark Osenga. Advise him of your needs and he should be able to work out a way for you to get the Vitality OTC three cylinder VED should you still desire to get one. It might cost the extra shipping charges, but I am sure the company can ship internationally.

www.fitzz.com

Let me know if I can help in any way with your getting the attention of the company. In the past, I have arranged for guys in several countries to get their VEDs.

Old Man
Age 92. Peyronies Disease at age 24, Peyronies Disease after
stage four radical prostatectomy in 1995, Heart surgery 2004 with three bypasses/three stents.
Three more stents in 2016. Hiatal hernia surgery 2017 with 1/3 stomach reduction. Many other surgeries too.

Davea

Old Man,

Thanks for the advice - I'll give it a shot and let you know how it goes.

mike67

Davea
Thanks for commenting on my post. I actually placed a "get quote " order on line with Fitzz today. I called them but Mark is away til Monday so will just speak with him then to get a warm & cozy feeling about them. The Old Man is a great help in setting everything up for patients like us , and strongly recommends them. I see he has already be in contact with you .

Good luck .

Mike
Mikey

Davea

Quote from: Old Man on July 08, 2010, 07:57:21 AM
Davea:

I am sorry that you did not get an answer from the Fitzz company. They do ship all over the world, even to countries where there is no distributor of Augusta Medical Systems VEDs. Go to this link and get their web site URL address and send an email to the president of the Fitzz company, Mr. Mark Osenga. Advise him of your needs and he should be able to work out a way for you to get the Vitality OTC three cylinder VED should you still desire to get one. It might cost the extra shipping charges, but I am sure the company can ship internationally.

www.fitzz.com

Let me know if I can help in any way with your getting the attention of the company. In the past, I have arranged for guys in several countries to get their VEDs.

Old Man

Old Man,

Don't know what happened the last time I tried to contact Fitzz but today I managed to get the price online for Spain (where I am moving to). The shipping cost is more than $120, but that's UPS for you I guess. Anyway I'm going to go ahead and order one. I've had such good results with the single cylinder model I'm anxious to get going with the real deal.

Thanks again for the help.

Old Man

Davea:

If you are not leaving for Spain right away, you might want to place the order with Fitzz now and have them ship it to you expedited shipping. This would cost way less than overseas UPS charges. You probably could get it delivered in 3 or 4 days this way too.

If you decide to to do this place your order by phone so that you can talk directly with a sales rep who can make the expedited handling for you.

Old Man
Age 92. Peyronies Disease at age 24, Peyronies Disease after
stage four radical prostatectomy in 1995, Heart surgery 2004 with three bypasses/three stents.
Three more stents in 2016. Hiatal hernia surgery 2017 with 1/3 stomach reduction. Many other surgeries too.

Davea

Old Man,

Problem is I'm in South East Asia right now. I did manage, after a lot of surfing, to find a UK website which sells the SomaCorrect Xtra (which seems to be the same thing as Fitzz offers; 3 tubes etc). The total price though, including postage, is almost exactly the same as Fitzz even with their $128 UPS charge.

It might be a good reference for anyone living in the UK though - website is http://www.imedicare.eu/onlinestore.html

Davea

Old Man

Davea:

OK, I was under the assumption you were still Stateside. Yes, I checked out the site you mentioned. The prices seem to be very good based on the fact that you are out of the USA. It appears that the VED package you mentioned is basically the same as the Vitality unit from Fitzz.

There are many different models of VEDs made by Augusta and I believe many are made special for their distributors.

Anyway, thanks for posting the link as it will help a lot of folks in the Euro and other areas overseas from the USA.

Old Man
Age 92. Peyronies Disease at age 24, Peyronies Disease after
stage four radical prostatectomy in 1995, Heart surgery 2004 with three bypasses/three stents.
Three more stents in 2016. Hiatal hernia surgery 2017 with 1/3 stomach reduction. Many other surgeries too.

rontherube



I am new here and have Peyronies Disease for about 6 months live in texas no one knows much about Peyronies Disease looking for direction
RDR

LWillisjr

It would help if you could post some additional information. Because the advice you receive will depend on several factors. All the way from how long you have had Peyronies Disease (not just how long you have been diagnosed), degree of curvature, pain or no pain, etc. You will find a lot of great information here and many willing to offer advice.
Developed peyronies 2007 - 70 degree dorsal curve
Traction/MEDs/Injections/Surgery 2008 16 years Peyronies free now
My History

Starflower

I've been doing nothing but read about Peyronie's for the last week or so but can't find much information about pain and sex/erections.  My husband's urologist gave him the "wait and see what happens" advice.  So now I'm thinking we a)need a better urologist and b)should do some research ourselves...     

A lot of men seem to use VEDs.  Am I right that it's ok to use them in the early stages - possible even a good idea?  My husband tells me he's in a lot of pain though and his urologist told him not to have sex (advice he has followed).  In fact he's been avoiding any intimacy with me in case he gets an erection.  He was diagnosed last month-we were about to start trying for a baby.

Are erections ok if there's pain?  Is the urologist right that since it's at such an early stage in the disease sex will worsen the outcome?  I'm happy to go without sex for now if it improves the eventual outcome.

Does it depend on the stage of the disease?  It seems most men using VEDs have had Peyronie's for a while. Does not having erections slow the progression of the disease in the first stages or when there's pain? I know these questions aren't directly related to VEDs but since I've been assuming my husband can never again have an erection (without pain and dire consequences) it's strange to see that erections can be a treatment. 

I'm also afraid to suggest something like that to a man afraid of erections without a urologist saying it's a good idea - but where do we find a good urologist (not in the US)?  Do urologists recommend VEDs?  I'm confused!

BrooksBro

Texas is a BIG state.  I live in Houston.  The urologist I had been seeing for my annual exam said "take vitamin E and come back in a year to talk about plication surgery."  His Rx for anti-inflammatory pain medicine worked great to eliminate the severe pain on erection.  I took his advice about the vitamin E, and went to another doctor. 

Since November 2009, I have been seeing Larry Lipshultz, head of the Baylor urology department.  Lipshultz knows A LOT about treating peyronie's.  I am very pleased with the treatment I am receiving.  At my first visit, he started me on pentoxyfilline 400 mg 3X, L-Arginine, 25 mg viagra nightly (known as the PAV coctail, or triple therapy), and FastSize traction device.  He since added testosterone to get my level into the normal range.  http://www.bcm.edu/urology/index.cfm?pmid=9953

Where ever you are in Texas, Southwest Airlines can get you to Hobby Airport, and the medical center is nearby (by Texas standards).

Quote from: rontherube on August 02, 2010, 06:36:35 PM

I am new here and have Peyronies Disease for about 6 months live in texas no one knows much about Peyronies Disease looking for direction


Mike_O

StarFlower

Welcome to the forum - perhaps the best internet site for learning about Peyronie's Disease. I encourage you AND your husband to spend many hours reading the info and posts here. Also check out the forum specifically for women. Reading this 50+ page thread about VEDs will show you that many folks are exploring various therapy approaches to Peyronie's but it may be a bit overwhelming for you at this point. I suggest you get an overview and "big picture" then focus on various therapy approaches.

Keep in mind many men and their partners have successfully overcome the effects of this condition - however knowledge and effort sure does help the process.

There is hope!

Mike_O

MODERATORS

Please consider closing this thread to new posts. It is 51 pages and 2523 posts spanning 5 years. This thread is very helpful so please don't delete. It takes many hours to read through the entire thread and I doubt most folks will take the time to do so. It seems more helpful if the threads are more topic specific.

Thanks for your service to the community here!

skunkworks

Quote from: Starflower on August 16, 2010, 04:46:55 AMIn fact he's been avoiding any intimacy with me in case he gets an erection.  He was diagnosed last month-we were about to start trying for a baby.

I don't think sex will cause harm as long as it is careful, but not having regular erections will cause his penis damage and make the end result worse. Erections keep the penis healthy.
This is an emotionally destructive condition, we all have it, let's be nice to each other.

Review of current treatment options by Levine and Sherer]

Angus

  Thanks Mike for the suggestion. The topic is now saved as an archive for reading only. It is also locked and no new posts can be made. I agree that threads that are more topic-specific will be easier for members new and not-so-new to glean information from. Any members that were carrying on a discussion in this thread are welcome to create a new thread with a title that represents the subject of discussion... Angus

james1947

***Warning***
Do NOT overpump.  Read all protocols BEFORE using the VED

Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum