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thegreycat

Changed up my VED protocol a little and found that I can *almost* get my problem areas to fill the VED.

The issue I'm finding is that I'm only feeling a stretch at the last second of my 10s holds, and I'm only feeling them during the last 3 or 4 cycles (out of 20 total).

Realistically, what's the difference between holding for 10s versus 15s or 20s? I have no intention of holding for any longer than this, but with traction slowly starting to help my curve, I want to make sure I'm getting the most out of my VED useage.

Anecdotes from people with experience welcome.
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

McQueen

To be fair, I have increased the hold time up to a max of 30 seconds. By doing so, I am finding it easier to get the problem area to fill the tube.

As an example, I normally carry out VED for 20 minutes. Some weeks ago, i could almost fill out the tube in the problem area at the end of 20 minutes. Now after about 15 minutes I am filling the tube, so it maybe improving (not measured yet).

I also use the manufacturers protocol, as I found the forum protocol was not having any effect.

Hope this helps
Peyronie Symptoms since 2016

45 degree bend to the left, corrected, but upward curve of 40 developed whilst under traction.

Soft lump opposite curve

VED, Taladafil, Ubiquinol, DMSO + Iodine + Paba, L Citrulline, Black Seed Oil & MSM

Sonic

Quote from: McQueen on April 25, 2023, 08:16:51 AMI also use the manufacturers protocol, as I found the forum protocol was not having any effect.

What does that protocol say?
30 years. Sudden rightwards curve detected in June 2020
Narrowing on right side and about a 20° curve to the right.
ED + instability due to narrowing.

thegreycat

Quote from: McQueen on April 25, 2023, 08:16:51 AMAs an example, I normally carry out VED for 20 minutes. Some weeks ago, i could almost fill out the tube in the problem area at the end of 20 minutes. Now after about 15 minutes I am filling the tube, so it maybe improving (not measured yet).
Interesting. Are you using the SomaCorrect too? I hope you are indeed improving my friend!

I think part of the advantage of a longer hold time is the bubbles of air trapped under my glans have more time to escape into the top of the vaccum chamber - as they do, the indented area fills in more and more.

Upped it to a 15s hold today, and found myself feeling a proper stretch in my problem area for the first time in months. I'll take it easy here for a couple of weeks and up it to 20/25s.
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

McQueen

The manufacturers (SOMA) protocol, or instructions are as follows:

• Begin with all three Negative Pressure Cylinders (A, B & C) in place providing the
smallest open end and greatest resistance to penile bending.
• Slowly begin by activating the Negative Pressure Device lever two to three times.
Stop and wait five seconds. Secure scrotal tissue out of the way whilst pumping by
pinching from below if necessary with your free hand.
• Continue adding additional pressure by repeating this start and stop cycle of
pumping. As you feel pressure increase, you should reduce the number of actions of
the Negative Pressure Device lever to only two lever actions and at the same time
increase your waiting period to ten seconds. This is important as blood moves more
slowly into the penis as you approach full engorgement.
• Continuing to increase negative pressure too much or too quickly can result in mild
discomfort which is normal in the first few days of use.
• Experiment with the three Negative Pressure Cylinders sizing options (A, B and C) to
find the sizing option combination that will allow the penis to fully engorge ie.
permitting adequate blood to be pulled into the penile vascular system to stretch the
Peyronie's plaque, but not allow the penis to bend.
• Once you begin to feel the penis being pulled tight stop the activation of negative
pressure. Hold the erection at this level for a few seconds then release the vacuum
pressure by pressing and holding the pressure release button.
• Wait for the pressure to drop then add additional pressure repeating the above steps
until you can achieve a fully rigid erection. Some initial discomfort is normal due to the
extra tissue stretch.
• Continue this process for 10 to 20 minutes generating as many full erections as
possible in this time using the pumping protocol highlighted above . Once you've
completed this routine you've finished your session
Peyronie Symptoms since 2016

45 degree bend to the left, corrected, but upward curve of 40 developed whilst under traction.

Soft lump opposite curve

VED, Taladafil, Ubiquinol, DMSO + Iodine + Paba, L Citrulline, Black Seed Oil & MSM

Sonic

Quote from: McQueen on April 26, 2023, 02:03:24 AMThe manufacturers (SOMA) protocol, or instructions are as follows:

Thanks for posting this!
30 years. Sudden rightwards curve detected in June 2020
Narrowing on right side and about a 20° curve to the right.
ED + instability due to narrowing.