My Penimasterpro Experience (A Diary)

[LikeATreeInAStorm]

Hi folks,

In November 2022, I realized my penis is bending to the left (hence my username) at roughly 35-40 degrees. I couldn't find any good peyronies doctor where I'm from. An andrologist I went to gave me vitamin E, some beta blockers to last a month and essentially said 'nothing else but surgery works, good luck'.

After months of just vitamin E, my scar and curvature is either exactly the same or slightly worse (I really can't tell even after looking at old pictures). Masturbation is possible and I can get fully hard, but it is slightly uncomfortable and not as fun as it used to be. Recently, I've taken my treatment into my own hands. I'm taking 2.5mg of Cialis everyday (a 10mg tablet cut to a fourth, couldn't find 2.5mg), and have received my Penimasterpro.

The first 30 minutes of learning to use the PMP were frustrating. I was sure something was wrong with my device, or I was an idiot. A little bit of patience later, I've gotten to where I've mastered fitting my penis into the vacuum in the first try. Today was my first day and I did about 2.5 hours of traction, first for an hour and then 1.5 hours. The stretch is good and the device is comfortable. I'm happy with how it works and feels. I didn't want to stretch for too long on the first day because I want my penis to get used to it, and want to observe any side effects. So far, post the 1.5 hour stretch, my glans was a little red and ever so slightly purpled around areas where vacuum was probably the strongest. That went away in 10 minutes post removal of the device, so no worries.

I'll write my experience here to benefit anyone else who may be in the same boat.

I also have some questions:

1) Is it necessarily to stretch continuously rather than with breaks in the middle? I drink a lot of water and have to pee often, so there's no way I can keep this thing on for 3+ hours.

2) How do I estimate how much of a stretch is a "good stretch"? Besides using common sense, I mean. I felt like I got a great stretch today, but I'm not sure how much I really need.

3) To anyone who's successfully used the PMP: how many hours did you put in before you saw results? I understand that stretching the penis can repair scar tissue through mechanotransduction, and I've read the papers they publish, but I'd love to hear it first hand.

[thegreycat]

1) Is it necessarily to stretch continuously rather than with breaks in the middle? I drink a lot of water and have to pee often, so there's no way I can keep this thing on for 3+ hours.


2) How do I estimate how much of a stretch is a "good stretch"? Besides using common sense, I mean. I felt like I got a great stretch today, but I'm not sure how much I really need.

3) To anyone who's successfully used the PMP: how many hours did you put in before you saw results? I understand that stretching the penis can repair scar tissue through mechanotransduction, and I've read the papers they publish, but I'd love to hear it first hand.

It's recommended never to strech longer than 2hrs at a time. Some people even do just one hour at a time. Personally, I do two hours in one go.

In terms of feeling the stretch, I don't really feel what would be described as a classic stretching sensation, but when I take the device OFF, I feel a big "relief", so to me that means I'm getting a decent stretch. As long as the PMP has one or two notches showing then you know you're getting a decent stretch.

See my other post, but I'm 7 weeks in doing 2hrs a day and I think I might have started to see some very small results. I purposely use vague language here because I don't want to get ahead of myself. I'm hoping to be doing 4hrs a day soon, just trying to find the time!

Good luck, and please keep us updated.
 

[LikeATreeInAStorm]

Thanks for the inputs! Is it not recommended to wear for more than 2 hours due to the blood flow being cut off? I initially assumed the 6-8 hour recommended wear time for the PMP was meant to be at a stretch, in one go.

Regarding the notches, I'm not sure about using those to measure stretch because my screws are at the top instead of the bottom (touching the metal rods instead of the base of the machine, if that makes sense). I feel some relief when I take off the device, because the machine lets me stretch at a higher tension than I would have and was doing previously with my hand. I was being really careful, inconsistent and conservative with manual traction because I was afraid of reinjury.

Glad to hear you're (possibly) seeing improvements at 7 weeks. I plan on keeping this up for months, although I'm really not sure what I'll do when my schedule gets more hectic and I've to be out all day - probably wear it 3 hours a day before sleeping or something.

[LikeATreeInAStorm]

Day 2 Update
Take this with a pinch of salt, guys, but after the first day of using the PMP for 2.5 hours, I attempted masturbating at night and found that it had less discomfort than usual. It could have been the 2.5mg of tadalafil I took, but I've taken that a few times before and it did nothing for the comfort, only the erection quality. I don't know if it was a placebo thing but I swear it was a better experience than I've been having with choking the chicken since I got this stupid disease back in November. I don't know why using the PMP for 2.5 hours would instantly reduce discomfort. It could've been just a coincidence or something else that I'm not factoring in.
My apologies if this is too much information, I'm pretty much sharing everything in case it benefits anyone out there.

[thegreycat]

My apologies if this is too much information, I'm pretty much sharing everything in case it benefits anyone out there

Please don't apologise. This forum is here for us all to share our experiences in a safe environment. The more information we share, the more educated we'll all be.

Regarding your questions - the 2hr "limit" is to give the glans a rest to my understanding. The PMP suction cup is pretty brutal on the glans so having a rest for 30mins or so every 2 hours allows things to get back to normal.

If the screws are touching the metal rods then you're either applying more tension than the max the PMP provides using the springs, or your rods are too short. As a general rule of thumb, I've found that putting the device on should have the screws touching the base with 2 or 3 notches showing. As time goes on, this will increase to 3 or 4, at which point you can use the screws to bring the tension back up. The springs also create a buffer against any sudden movements, whereas if they're touching the rods then they aren't. I hope this makes sense.
 

[LikeATreeInAStorm]

Please don't apologise. This forum is here for us all to share our experiences in a safe environment. The more information we share, the more educated we'll all be.

Gotcha. Thanks

Regarding your questions - the 2hr "limit" is to give the glans a rest to my understanding. The PMP suction cup is pretty brutal on the glans so having a rest for 30mins or so every 2 hours allows things to get back to normal.

I've come to realize this too. While the machine isn't uncomfortable by any means, wearing it longer than 2 hours worries me because I don't know what my glans will look like when it comes out. Thankfully it comes out fine, just a bit red sometimes.

If the screws are touching the metal rods then you're either applying more tension than the max the PMP provides using the springs, or your rods are too short. As a general rule of thumb, I've found that putting the device on should have the screws touching the base with 2 or 3 notches showing. As time goes on, this will increase to 3 or 4, at which point you can use the screws to bring the tension back up. The springs also create a buffer against any sudden movements, whereas if they're touching the rods then they aren't. I hope this makes sense.

Noted. I twisted the screws till they were at the bottom of their spirals, rather than top, so my device now looks similar to this.

What I don't understand is how the number of screws showing is being used to determine tension/stretch. There are so many sizes of steel rod attachments that can be used on the device, from super long ones to tiny ones (they look like little watch batteries) that can be added on top of steel rods to slowly increase tension. How does one reliably calculate the tension?

I'm guessing most people never change the steel rods they use, and instead of adding those little watch battery sized rod attachments, twist the screws instead?

[thegreycat]

What I don't understand is how the number of screws showing is being used to determine tension/stretch. There are so many sizes of steel rod attachments that can be used on the device, from super long ones to tiny ones (they look like little watch batteries) that can be added on top of steel rods to slowly increase tension. How does one reliably calculate the tension?

I'm guessing most people never change the steel rods they use, and instead of adding those little watch battery sized rod attachments, twist the screws instead?

Not quite. The springs are for "on-the-fly" adjustment. The addition of rods is for long term adjustment.

When I first started with the PMP I originally measured my stretched length and added roughly 1cm using the smallest spacer. With the device on, there was around 2 or 3 notches showing. After an hour or so, they were almost all showing. This means my penis stretched and the tension reduced, so I would adjust the tension screws back to 2 or 3 notches.

Around 20 days later, I noticed that I was almost never under tension, so I added another spacer. I've done this twice now, so as of the time of writing I now have three spacers (the smallest rods). Now, when I wear the device, it starts off almost with no notches showing at all, and after about an hour there are 2 or 3 notches. Again, I adjust the springs as I go to keep the tension consistent.

The more you use the PMP, the more your tissues get used to it, so the quicker and easier they take to being stretched. Eventually, the stretch is a litte more permanent, and you can add another small spacer. Rinse and repeat every 3 weeks or so until you hit your max length, at which point you're getting a consistent, maximal stretch without over-doing it by slamming it past the max tension.

I hope this makes sense.

[LikeATreeInAStorm]

Yep, this makes a lot of sense. Thanks for explaining.

[LikeATreeInAStorm]

Is it normal to have a feeling of sorts in your plaque after a few hours of traction with the PMP? Not pain or discomfort, just a feeling, like it's letting you know it's there.

I find the PMP to be very comfortable. I'm currently on 2-3 hours a day so my penis can get used to being stretched before trying 4-5. I'm on vacation right now and it's still difficult to imagine doing 6 hours a day. How on earth I'll do that when I've other responsibilities, I have no idea. Apart from that, it's a great device. Snug, comfortable and painless. I hope it works for me. Fingers crossed.

In other news, I visited another andrologist and got prescribed 5mg Cialis along with an anti-fibrotic medication (I think that's what it's called). The andrologist found other nodules, almost in a band, however they are not as palpable and do not cause any bend, only the leftmost one does. I'm wondering, since they exist in sort of a ring, if this was a rough masturbation accident that caused it. The nodules are in accordance with my grip, including the most palpable left-side nodule which exists where my grip is the tightest. Either way - I hope these nodules don't grow.

[Sonic]

Do both you guys in this thread have foreskin or are you cut?

I am seriously considering this right now. I will make a decision very soon to go with either VED or traction with PMP.

Right now VED is leading the race because of my Erectile Dysfunction. I'm sick of doing nothing.

I do not know how PMP would work with me. I have very elastic foreskin. I can roll it back literally all the way down to nearly the end of my shaft.

I feel like this is recipe for slippage issues.

[LikeATreeInAStorm]

I'm cut.
The PMP sucks in my entire glans and locks at the neck of the penis, where the shaft ends and glans begins, so if you can roll your foreskin beyond that, hopefully it should be fine. I'm not entirely sure though, just hypothesizing; definitely look up using the PMP with foreskin.

[thegreycat]

Sonic - I'm uncut, also have very elastic foreskin. It's a non-issue. It usually gets sucked into the glans chamber as I put it on, then as you put the PMP on you can just apply pressure as if rolling it back and it just slips out of the chamber leaving the glans in. Less lube is more for ahesion. VED is great for filling the penis with blood, which can't be a bad thing, and lateral stretching from within. PMP is not going to do anything for blood flow, but is going to elongate the tissues over a longer period of time. Personally I do both.

Tree - I feel very aware of my plaque for a few hours afterwards. I too have left-hand lumps and hinging and it's definitely an awareness. Wether that's just psychological though I don't know. The first few weeks it would ache, now it doesn't and I'm stretching around 2cm more than I was back then, and for longer.

[Sonic]

Thanks for the replies guys.

Tough decision to take. Obviously due to ED I am more leaning toward VED. But I feel VED in my situation would probably do very little in terms of curvature and that traction would probably give the better results in that regard. Both of them are very expensive and I will definitely only have to go with one as I will never have the energy to do both.

[LikeATreeInAStorm]

Tree - I feel very aware of my plaque for a few hours afterwards. I too have left-hand lumps and hinging and it's definitely an awareness. Wether that's just psychological though I don't know. The first few weeks it would ache, now it doesn't and I'm stretching around 2cm more than I was back then, and for longer.

I definitely don't think it's psychological, there's a feeling sometimes in the plaque area for sure.  

[LikeATreeInAStorm]

Day 10 Update

I've been using the device pretty consistently. I must have used it 10 days out of the last 12 for an average of 2.5 to 3 hours a day. I've also been taking tadalafil and a medicine prescribed for gout, which, interestingly, I read helped someone in the Improvements Section of this forum (not the same brand that person used, but a similar one prescribed for the same thing). That makes me more confident in the new doctor I visited.

The little guy is a bit more elastic these days, which is nice for someone who falls in the "grower, not a shower" category. I can tell my penis is getting accustomed to the stretching, because what was a nice stretch before feels fairly normal and uneventful now, comfortable even. I'm not going to jump the gun and increase tension right away though. I'll wait a week.. I am increasing the hours slowly though. Additionally, the pain caused during rock hard erections has reduced. The curve looks about the same. Erections are naturally more frequent and stronger because I didn't have Erectile Dysfunction and I'm taking tadalafil, so I don't know if traction has anything to do with those.

I've generally become more hopeful and optimistic about this stupid disease once I started doing something about it. I didn't get my curve measured, but I approximate it was 20-25 degrees at the onset back in November, and it's 40 degrees or so now. If I can get it to 20 or less, I'll be happy enough. That's my goal, I hope it's feasible.

[Sonic]

Appreciate the updates. One of my fav parts about this forum is following diary like updates like this thread to track the progress of people who are using traction or VED.

It is really helpful.

Hope you start getting some good results with time!

[Atlantikos]

hey Tree - I have a pretty similar case and am also trying traction, though with the RestoreX device. Sounds like we are also similar in having started recently (I started about 2 weeks ago). I am following your progress as well and wishing you much success! Thanks for sharing

[LikeATreeInAStorm]

hey Tree - I have a pretty similar case and am also trying traction, though with the RestoreX device. Sounds like we are also similar in having started recently (I started about 2 weeks ago). I am following your progress as well and wishing you much success! Thanks for sharing

Thanks for the best wishes, I hope we both see a lot of success.

[LikeATreeInAStorm]

In the past 2 weeks, I've been inconsistent with traction: this is owed to laziness and that I've had a few drinking plans, and I refuse to do traction or anything penile health related when buzzed. I did get a couple good days though with 2-4 hour sessions.

I don't have much to offer other than I already did on my Day 10 Update on 14th April, except that even with inconsistent stretching, my penis generally seems more elastic and healthy and I've been able to increase the tension on the PMP rods. The pain during erections and masturbation has largely subsided, which I'm happy about. There's no progress with the curve as of yet, which I expected.

Sometimes, I feel a very slight sting or itch where the plaque is most palpable. I don't know if that means it's getting better, worse, or neither. If it is naturally bound to get worse, I hope traction is at least balancing it out.

One thing I dislike about the PMP is how quickly the gel they provide gets over. I've already gone through 40% of the tube, I'd estimate. Someone here mentioned that less is more when it comes to the gel, but personally, I like to take a generous pea sized amount; it makes my experience that much more comfortable. Then, if I choose to take a pee break, I need to put some more on my penis. I gave in and ordered 8 gel tubes from the PMP store yesterday to last me the next year or more (I can't keep ordering in singles because shipping is really expensive). Read here that castor oil seems to work for some men too, but I honestly didn't want to take a chance with home remedies given it's my penis. I've spent far more on far less important things.

[LikeATreeInAStorm]

I must be at roughly 40 hours or so. Yesterday, I took pictures of my erect penis and compared them to the picture I took on April 7th. The curve seems slightly lesser, we're talking an improvement of less than 5 degrees, if any. It's too small to document and could also be attributed to other things: camera angle, slight differences in curve depending on rigidity of erection etc, but I'm fairly confident that there is a miniscule improvement. I might upload comparison pictures, although the thought of that being on the internet does not sit well with me.

[LikeATreeInAStorm]

I don't have any updates to report at the moment, other than the nodule on the left seems harder to find with my fingers. The curve hasn't changed since my last update, though.