What is your ideal VED protocol?

[ohnoohno]

So I've gone through the main one posted here a few times by Old Man and I can see a bunch of people swear by it, I'm trying to understand it a bit more in laymans terms.

Should I be fine by doing this for example:

(I start a timer for 15 minutes)

1. Pump 3-5x and hold for 5-10 seconds
2. Deflate
3. Wait about 10 seconds
4. Repeat

And do this for the whole 15 minutes?

I might of missed it in Old Mans post but I didn't see it say how many times to pump it up, I think it just said pump to 20/30/40% erection. Well it takes me about 5 pumps to feel it going up.

I don't really feel "erected" so to say either just feel like its pumped up, but not hard. Just active.

My plan is to do this at least once a day for the next month and see how I go, alongwith 2.5/5mg cialis and just overall clean-ish lifestyle in diet/active excercise. I am travelling right now so things are a little harder to keep completely clean sometimes.

Thanks all

[Sonic]

You do not need to set a timer. Most important thing is that you do the 10 cycles. Just as you laid it out in step 1-4.

Pump until it engorges to semi erect state or 60% then hold for 10 secs and release.

[Trapper]

It makes no sense to me why you wouldn't pump up to a full erection for penile rehab as the goal is to stimulate a full erection. Would it not make sense to pump to 50% hold for a minute, release, pump to 70% hold for a minute release, then pump to 100% hold for 1 minute and release. Then repeat the last step until the end. I am NOT an expert but I have seen this protocol and I just don't understand how only pumping to 50% can prevent atrophy and keep the erectile chambers conditioned.

[Sonic]

Honestly makes no sense to me either but I've read about so many pumping to full erections getting hurt. I think the protocol Old Man created was percisely to prevent that but the thing is reading from others you have to be extremely patient. Old man said it took a year to be symptom free.

[Trapper]

I guess it depends on your goals a lot of folks pump up to 100% for sex. My goal is to prevent atrophy. Pumping to only 50% may increase arterial flow and stimulate wound healing though. Not much data on this but in this study on rats at least it sounds like 200-300mmhg (7-10inhg) is the sweet spot.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6732895/

[Dorian]

I pump to full erection and have been doing so for about a year. I pump for about 10-15 minutes in total and spend the first 5 minutes cycling with increasing pumps to finally get to a full erection. I never pump to discomfort and slowly cycle/pump until I reach a comfortable erection. For the remaining duration I pump to full erection and have 1 minute or so hold times. My doctor says goal is to stretch the tissue/scarring/plaque and not pumping to full erection is not giving a good stretch. Similarly, he gave the analogy of stretching a muscle where you stretch and hold it for a bit rather that quick repeated cycles. I've had some improvement in my hourglassing/denting/hinging and not noticed any negatives.

That said, I'm also using RestoreX and all the orals so I'm not 100% on what is helping specifically or even if it's just time that is. I suspect the VED, and the way I'm using it, contributes.

[ohnoohno]

If your penis "atrophies" can an implant fix it?