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thegreycat

Not going to go into a detailed history here - plenty in my post history tl;dr I'm nearly 12 months in and VED isn't working, supplements aren't working, nothing is working.

So, I've ordered a PMP. The reason for this over a RestoreX is that in my mind, time under tension matters; longer time is better.

When you work out, it's time-under-tension that builds muscle for example. Teeth straightening takes months... under tension. Stretching your ear for a flesh hole? Time. Under. Tension.

A longer, gentler 4 or 5 hour stint feels to me like it'll be more beneficial than the shorter, more extreme RestoreX time. The enlargement community for example advocate longer stints in devices such as the PMP. I have no interested in enlargement but I do feel that a longitudinal stretch could target the shortened, scarred areas while leaving the rest of the penis untouched. I also don't like the idea of having to clamp as my problem areas are quite close to my glans.

I am in a position where I work alone all day, so I can wear it for long stints without worry.

I feel like the VED stretch is too short in terms of duration to do anything in terms of stretching our scar tissue, just 15 seconds 10 times, however I will continue the VED too in order to keep the rest of the tissue expanded and promote blood flow.

I'll update as I go.

Fingers crossed.
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

Pfract

Good luck. There were reports here on the forum of people having success with the pmp. Maybe that will be your case. I do want to caution you about the enlargement community. Been in those forums years ago, and there's never any real proof of their gains. Always hear say and dubious claims. Not to mention the dangerous exercises that lead to peyronies and penile fractures.

Be careful!  

Sonic

From what I have read here and other forums there is a learning curve with the PMP. There can definitely be periods of frustration due to slippage, problems with enough suction etc. Just don't expect it to be picture perfect, you will run into problems and you have to keep patient with it.
30 years. Sudden rightwards curve detected in June 2020
Narrowing on right side and about a 20° curve to the right.
ED + instability due to narrowing.

thegreycat

Thanks both - I intend to be careful.

Pfract, Research gleaned from the enlargement community was done with eyes-wide, don't worry. I merely take away the fact that in any of these alleged things, time under tension appears to be the common denominator.

The simple fact of the matter here is that 11 months on I continue to worsen. The pain is gone but I have two deformities, left and upward that continue to progress. If that means I am in the acute phase still then I owe it to myself to at-least try to get atop of it. VED clearly doesn't work in this case, so it's on to the next thing.
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

Sonic

Quote from: thegreycat on February 07, 2023, 11:46:27 AMIf that means I am in the acute phase still then I owe it to myself to at-least try to get atop of it. VED clearly doesn't work in this case, so it's on to the next thing.

It is a good mindset. Hope the traction helps. You have to be very patient with it. Never put on too many rods from the get go either it is very easy to injure yourself if you overdo it, let your tissue adapt to the stretch before going bananas. Hope you update us on how things go.
30 years. Sudden rightwards curve detected in June 2020
Narrowing on right side and about a 20° curve to the right.
ED + instability due to narrowing.

Mikel7

I first started with the PMP and it restored almost all of my lost length. There is a learning curve to find the correct sluices and diaphragms. I posted a balloon mod in the forum and it is a lot cheaper to use them. I used the PMP for about 6 to 8 hours a day for about 1 1/2 years and it is a gentle stretch. I then eventually purchased a Restorex to help with my curvature. Patience is the key here. Good Luck!  Mikel7
Lump 4/2020, age 62 , Dr Levine 6-26-20, Dors Curve 11/2020, Peyronies
Vit E400mg, COQ10, Heat Therapy, Penimaster, Pentox, Cialis, Restorex
SNHL 7/2020 - Stopped all Meds because ototoxicity  Heat/traction/VED are working. CPPS Diagnosis - Stable :)

thegreycat

Thanks all.

Day 1 - I just did 1 hour to begin with. Not sure if I did it right.

Sluice/Glans thing went on absolutely fine straight away. I used the longest two rods to connect to the main rods, and was able to stretch into it just fine. But then even when I opened the screws up to the max, I didn't really feel any kind of stretch, and I could still see a bit of a bend where my problem area is.

After an hour my scrotum where the thing attached was quite sore.

Took it off, immediate turtle.

Any tips?
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

Sonic

Let the screws stay fully retracted. They should be completely snug against the base, the device is spring loaded I wouldn't mess with the screws if I were you. Try a bit shorter rods next time, turtling could be a sign of over doing it and it retracts as a defensive mechanism.
30 years. Sudden rightwards curve detected in June 2020
Narrowing on right side and about a 20° curve to the right.
ED + instability due to narrowing.

Mikel7

Definitely work with the different rod lengths and yes your scrotum could be sore after first wearing it. Gradually add time each day/week of your wearing it. You can also use some kind of padding against your pubic bone area like a cut off sock/other padding material to help with the comfort of it.
Lump 4/2020, age 62 , Dr Levine 6-26-20, Dors Curve 11/2020, Peyronies
Vit E400mg, COQ10, Heat Therapy, Penimaster, Pentox, Cialis, Restorex
SNHL 7/2020 - Stopped all Meds because ototoxicity  Heat/traction/VED are working. CPPS Diagnosis - Stable :)

Sonic

30 years. Sudden rightwards curve detected in June 2020
Narrowing on right side and about a 20° curve to the right.
ED + instability due to narrowing.

thegreycat

Not sure I'm doing this right to be fair.

So I don't feel a "stretch" at all, but I am clearly being stretched out. The glans sluice is tricky to get the hang of but I've mostly got that down.

Sitting and bending down are almost impossible with the rods on, so that's really getting in the way of being able to function. How anyone says they can wear this under normal clothes is beyond me.

What I am finding, is that the underside of my penis aches after around an hour in the PMP, and I have to take it off. My glans are also extremely deformed when I take the glans sluice off, I'm not sure if this is normal. Takes about an hour to fully go back to normal and I can't pee standing up until it does.

What is interesting, is that when I first put it on, the lumps are very defined. After an hour or so, the lumps are very soft. I'm hoping this is because they're getting a stretch.

Hopefully next week I can start wearing for 2 hour stints every evening - then eventually 3 hours. I categorically won't have any other time I can wear this as my job is now extremely busy and I'm driving a lot.

No change yet, obviously... I've only worn it for about 5 hours total.

Will keep updated.
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

Mikel7

The deformity of your glans is normal and will go back to it original shape. Discomfort is also normal as your penis gets used to traction. I also found that sitting down in a chair was also uncomfortable. I would wear mine under loose sweatpants as I work from home. In the evening I would wear mine up but I was also laying down. Things do get stretched and over time do help your deformities and lost length and some curvature improvement. Patience is the key as this is a much less force than the Restorex device.
Lump 4/2020, age 62 , Dr Levine 6-26-20, Dors Curve 11/2020, Peyronies
Vit E400mg, COQ10, Heat Therapy, Penimaster, Pentox, Cialis, Restorex
SNHL 7/2020 - Stopped all Meds because ototoxicity  Heat/traction/VED are working. CPPS Diagnosis - Stable :)

thegreycat

Thanks Mikel.

I'm only managing an hour at present, next week I will try to up this to two.

However, I've already logged more hours of "strech" than in 4 months of VED use... so hoping this will have some effect.

I plan to reintroduce VED for a morning session, then traction in the evenings. Struggling to know how I'm going to realistically manage any more than two hours though.

I will keep this threat updated as a record of my progress.
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

thegreycat

It's so disheartening to see just how prominent my lumps and dents are under traction too. Literally wasted 4 months on VED for nothing it would seem.
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

Mikel7

Lump 4/2020, age 62 , Dr Levine 6-26-20, Dors Curve 11/2020, Peyronies
Vit E400mg, COQ10, Heat Therapy, Penimaster, Pentox, Cialis, Restorex
SNHL 7/2020 - Stopped all Meds because ototoxicity  Heat/traction/VED are working. CPPS Diagnosis - Stable :)

thegreycat


Don't I know it!

Started VED again this morning.

I reckon I can clock about 2hrs an evening with the PMP - 30 minute sessions are what the clinical trials used so hoping anything above that is enough.

Thinking I might try the hip belt during the way while I'm at work and pull in the opposite direction to my curve - no way I can get the rods under my clothes and still work effectively, and pointing the thing up really didn't feel like it was doing anything at all.

That plus rods in the evening I might be able to get 3 hours in.

What I don't really understand is what happens when I run out of glans cap and sluices? I can't seem to find how I order more, or how long they last.
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

Sonic

30 years. Sudden rightwards curve detected in June 2020
Narrowing on right side and about a 20° curve to the right.
ED + instability due to narrowing.

thegreycat

35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

8branchtt

Have you tried wearing a silicon sleave to prevent turtling after using the device?

I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have a problem wearing that at work / under clothing.  
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thegreycat

Does anybody else get a really bulbous frenulum after using? It's not like blood engorgement, its soft.

Not sure if it means I'm not in the sluice properly.
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

Mikel7

You need to check out my mods for the sluice and diaphragm substitutions. I purchased regular latex balloons at Party City. I cut off the tops and used the instead . Very inexpensive too $$$ Here is the forums link to it-->https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,14580.msg136422.html#msg136422  
Lump 4/2020, age 62 , Dr Levine 6-26-20, Dors Curve 11/2020, Peyronies
Vit E400mg, COQ10, Heat Therapy, Penimaster, Pentox, Cialis, Restorex
SNHL 7/2020 - Stopped all Meds because ototoxicity  Heat/traction/VED are working. CPPS Diagnosis - Stable :)

thegreycat

Well tonight I finally managed to test the belt system and it's actually comfortable and non-intrusive. This will definitely allow me to up my wear to 4/6 hours a day, which is really exciting.

The downside is, it doesn't seem to pull as much, there doesn't feel as if there is as much of a stretch. Any tips?
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

LWillisjr

You need to take it off and give your penis a break every couple of hours.
Developed peyronies 2007 - 70 degree dorsal curve
Traction/MEDs/Injections/Surgery 2008 16 years Peyronies free now
My History

thegreycat

Yeah I will - I'm hoping to do two on, one off, two on during the day and whatever I can manage in the evening.

It's just it really doesn't feel like there's any stretch happening with the hip belt. Not sure if I'm doing it wrong.
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

thegreycat

Little update three and a half weeks in - two of the three lumps feel like they may have started to soften and flatten slightly, they're also the two newest lumps. The area around those also appears slightly less narrowed in both the traction device and the VED.

These changes are absolutely tiny however, so I can't be 100% sure.

Averaging 2 hours a night, just got to grips with the belt system too so hoping to be able to add an extra hour or two a day there too.

Getting some random aches across different parts of my penis after use in the evening, but other than that no side effects I can see yet.

I guess I've another 2 or 3 weeks before the stretching starts to promote new cell growth (if at all).  
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

olowshinenine

quick question about traction. If I feel pain after traction do I wait for the pain to go away before doing more traction or should I keep going?
Diagnosed after two uro visits march 2023. physical exam no ultrasound
Noticed upward bend october 22.
currently on 5mg cialis and using hot rice sock. trying to find right traction device
Pain started 12 2022.

thegreycat

Update post.

Well I'm ~60 hours in over 5 weeks, which isn't much. Managing at most 2hrs per day, I simply don't have time otherwise. It's frustrating to read all these posts about people seeing huge improvements in a month or two just doing short stints like this.

Aside from the softening of a couple of problem areas as above, I've not had any improvements as yet that I'm aware of.

I have however gone up by one of the smallest extension rods. I went up by two but I felt this was too much as this had the springs completely closed in all positions, I will re-evaluate in another couple of weeks.

All in all, I hate it. I hate wearing it, I hate how it feels, I hate how uncomfortable it is, how it makes me walk funny which makes my back hurt which flares up my sciatica. But there we go, we do what we must.

What is interesting, is that when I first start extending, my plaque lump is really palpable, really hard. You can even see a physical lump under the skin. By the end of the two hour session, it's almost completely smooth and I almost can't find it. Sometimes it's gone completely. I just wish it'd stay like this! To me, this means it's obviously getting stretched and so while that's happening I think there is scope to keep using the device.

People tend to throw around the 100-hour mark as some kind of landmark, so I guess we'll see when I'm there in another 3 weeks or so.

I'm going to start doing some manual counter-bending at the end of my sessions now that I have an idea of what the right kinds of tension feels like.

I've been using the SOMACorrect in the mornings too, but I simply don't feel like 10 second holds are doing anything at all. I've been completely unresponsive to VED and I wonder if it's due to doing 10 second holds rather than the 3 to 5 minute holds that urologists seem to recommend.

I'll check back again down the line.
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

thegreycat

Me again.

So I noted earlier that after about 2 hours, my lump has almost completely softened and flattened.

However, I've found that if I start massaging the plaque and intented area for around 60 seconds as soon as I put the PMP on, it softens and flattens almost immediately. I then come back and do the same every 20 minutes or so, and the area stays more or less totally softened.

I'm assuming this is better? That the problem areas are more malleable and pliable and therefore might be getting a better stretch than if they're all bundled up?

I'm also curious as to why the plaque softens, and why it can't just stay that way.

Anyway, just logging :)  
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

Patrick321

  Just my opinion after following my system from the Asian guy. You are constantly inflaming the scar tissue when you stretch it.  If you stop stretching for a week or two it will harden and be worse than before.
  Most cases of Peyronies happen when the erectile tissue is over-stretched. It then "swells", "inflames" which gives a false sense of security. This is how the scam is pulled off on penis enlargement sites.
  After the swelling/inflammation settles down, the erectile tissue is reconnected by even More/Thicker collagen/scar tissue. A.K.A. Peyronies.  Just my 2 cents.  
This poster cannot be taken seriously because he repeatedly posts misinformation as fact, even after multiple corrections and warnings

thegreycat

Just another update from me, some potentially and tentatively good news, I appear to have maybe started to see some positive changes.

Using the words tentatively and maybe here for a reason; because I know how psychological lenses can change the way we perceive things, as well as natural fluctuations.

That said, EQ appears to have increased to the best it's been for probably half a year, still not where it was, but better. NTE's have been getting better over the last few weeks but this has now translated into the "real world".

I would say I've regained maybe 5% lost length and my deformity is maybe 5% better. Again, using the word maybe, and we're taking minute amounts here. I'd say maybe we're not looking at as much of a sharply angled deviation any more, but more of a curve. The difference is only slight, but things appear to be looking better. 5% in 7 weeks though, I'll take that.

If nothing else, I appear to have come to the end of any negative progression.

I've decided to start back on CoQ10 and L-Citrulline; I stopped taking them during a time when my erections were still painful but since that is no longer a concern, I feel that getting the blood flowing better is only going to help things along. I tried Cialis but it messed with my ears so this is the best I can do.

Still not been able to wear the PMP for longer than 2 hours a day however, but spurred on by the above I'm going to try and make more time by using the belt during the day, combined with my evening 2 hour stint with the rods.

I'll check in again in a couple of weeks.
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

Mikel7

As you put in the hours with the PMP you will begin to see more improvements.
Lump 4/2020, age 62 , Dr Levine 6-26-20, Dors Curve 11/2020, Peyronies
Vit E400mg, COQ10, Heat Therapy, Penimaster, Pentox, Cialis, Restorex
SNHL 7/2020 - Stopped all Meds because ototoxicity  Heat/traction/VED are working. CPPS Diagnosis - Stable :)

thegreycat

Quote from: Mikel7 on April 02, 2023, 09:44:39 AMAs you put in the hours with the PMP you will begin to see more improvements.
I hope so. A couple of weeks ago I noticed two of my most recent "problem areas" start to soften, they're almost not palpable at all now. Then I've been able to move up two of the smallest increments on the PMP too. Now there's tiny % improvements in real-world. If I continue to make 5% improvements every 7 weeks I'll be the happiest man alive.
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

Sonic


It is nice to see that you are getting some results at least. Keep in mind 2 hours is going to give you results at a much slower rate. Try to aim for at least 4 hours a day. Keep updating us in this journal and I wish you all the best. Also, it would be a really good idea for yourself and I would even say crucial to take a picture of your erect penis at the last day of each month. This way you will be able to track your progress visually instead of the mind estimating improvements!
30 years. Sudden rightwards curve detected in June 2020
Narrowing on right side and about a 20° curve to the right.
ED + instability due to narrowing.

thegreycat

Really curious.

Some days, the plaque stays hard and palpable under traction for almost the whole two hours, and the surrounding flesh feels tough. Other days, like yesterday, the plaque is almost un-palpable within minutes of the PMP being on and the surrounding tissue feels really malleable and soft (but still under stretch).

I wonder what the difference is, and why.  
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

Mikel7

I also went through the same experience and I could not figure out the variables why. I guess it is because our bodies are so complex and are constantly changing cells inside and all of the reactions occurring - not to mention a change in the weather too.
Lump 4/2020, age 62 , Dr Levine 6-26-20, Dors Curve 11/2020, Peyronies
Vit E400mg, COQ10, Heat Therapy, Penimaster, Pentox, Cialis, Restorex
SNHL 7/2020 - Stopped all Meds because ototoxicity  Heat/traction/VED are working. CPPS Diagnosis - Stable :)

thegreycat

Quote from: Mikel7 on April 05, 2023, 12:23:58 PMnot to mention a change in the weather too
Might not be a bad shout - it has been warmer here recently.
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

thegreycat

Update. So today I ended up maxing the tension springs while using three of the smallest rods, which means I've gone up in rod size roughly once per fortnight. Swapped them out for the next largest one (which is basically the size of four of the smallest) and it feels good and comfortable.

Hoping that these last 7 weeks or so have been conditioning and getting used to the device and now I'm going to be giving the plaque a decent stretch daily. Interesting to see if in another fortnight I end up being able to add a smaller one again.

In my mind, the fact that I've been progressively going up in length means that at least some tissue is getting stretched and/or more malleable, which is a good thing.

Hoping I'm not getting ahead of myself.
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

LikeATreeInAStorm

All the best, I'm hoping the PMP works out for you. Also, I agree that sitting and keeping the PMP pointed upwards is difficult. I feel like by the time my penis recovers, my neck will have issues lol.
24 years old. Acute Phase. Curvature: 30-40 degrees (approx) left. Discovered slight stinging in October '22, Peyronies began developing in November. Currently taking tadalafil 2.5mg and Vitamin E daily while doing traction with the PMP.

thegreycat

35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

thegreycat

So 2nd day with the longer rods and I can really start feeling a stretch now. It stretching enough that I can finally find a palpable ridge on my problem area, extending from my glans down to my lump, causing the deviation. Hoping that having the longer rods means I'll be targetting this area more.

I also learned recently that less lube is more when it comes to adhesion. As my tension has been increasing, as has slippage. By dropping the amount of lube I use, it seems to help.

EQ continues to improve; looking at photos from back in Jan/Feb to today is day and night, and I think for pretty much the first time there is now consistently absolutely zero pain at all any more, like, completely gone. Hoping this means I'm on the cusp of turning a corner.

Still struggling to find more than 2hrs a day though... I feel like that's the key to upping the ante. Wish it wasn't so hard!
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

Sonic

The updates are sounding like you are on the right path. Slippage/ loss of vacuum/ troubles with foreskin etc is one of the reasons I decided not to invest in this. I feel like I should have given it a try in the early stages.
30 years. Sudden rightwards curve detected in June 2020
Narrowing on right side and about a 20° curve to the right.
ED + instability due to narrowing.

thegreycat

Quote from: Sonic on April 08, 2023, 01:02:46 PMSlippage/ loss of vacuum/ troubles with foreskin etc
It was definitely a learning curve, pardon the pun.
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

thegreycat

Today for the first time I have managed 4 hours of traction!

2 hours in the rods, and 2 hours in the belt. I've finally had time to figure out how to wear the belt under my clothes, which means I'll be able to get an extra couple of hours a day in while at work. Although the belt doesn't feel like it's applying anywhere near as much tension, it is atleast applying some, which is better than none.

The downside is that I simply can't sit down, and both make me walk/stand funny which in turn gives me incredibe sciatic pain, but I'm willing to endure this in an effort to double my time under tension.

8 weeks in so far, which I appreciate is barely even off the starting line.
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

thegreycat

Not much to update - not managing to get 4 hours consistently in due to work commitments, tends to be once every other day.

I'm beginning to get a little frustrated that at around 150hrs in, there's still very little change. A lot of people throw around the 100hr mark, but unfortunately that has come and passed without much change.

I had hoped that by increasing to the longer rods I'd be really feeling some change now... but then it's only been two weeks since going up to the longer rods. Maybe I have further to go in terms of rod length before that plaque is really getting stretched. I find that every 30 mins or so I'm having to adjust the screws to keep the tension up, so there is clearly room to continue forward.

I'll give these rods another 10 days or so before considering increasing them again.

As a side note, I'm getting some fairly incredible sciatic and back pain when wearing the rods, assuming because I'm standing funny. Any tips anyone?
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

thegreycat

Upped my VED intensity today - even in the small chamber there's a region that just doesn't expand to hit the sizes.

So, I've decided to stop using the medium chamber and just concentrate on the small chamber to try and stretch out the problem area. Twice a day. Once in the morning, once in the evening before I start my PMP session.

Using the belt attachment in the hip configuration during the day gives me a pretty big notch on the opposite side of my penis, and it seems to twist the glans under my trousers. So instead, I'm going to try and use the belt in the knee configuration instead, to closer mimic the action of the rods.

I'm feeling frustrated today because I just don't feel my problem area stretching, in fact I kinda feel nothing at all when doing PMP. I've gone up a bunch of rods, and over the 2hrs I constantly expand the screws until about 1hr30 when they sit at max for the remaining time.

My pain is gone. My condition is stable. My erections are decent. I've got another Uro follow up in 6 months and I just feel now like I'm going through the motions. I wan't to see more real progress damnit! ;D

Hoping the added double-VED at higher intensities will help. Started taking Vit E again, for what it might be worth.
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

LikeATreeInAStorm

Quote from: thegreycat on April 24, 2023, 01:05:15 PMI'm feeling frustrated today because I just don't feel my problem area stretching, in fact I kinda feel nothing at all when doing PMP. I've gone up a bunch of rods, and over the 2hrs I constantly expand the screws until about 1hr30 when they sit at max for the remaining time.

As someone using the PMP too, I understand how you feel. I think one of the selling points of RestoreX is that you can stretch the problem area better, although the fast and strenuous stretch that comes with that device makes me worried I'll injure myself :-X  
24 years old. Acute Phase. Curvature: 30-40 degrees (approx) left. Discovered slight stinging in October '22, Peyronies began developing in November. Currently taking tadalafil 2.5mg and Vitamin E daily while doing traction with the PMP.

thegreycat

Update.

Some negatives, some positives.

I've identified what may be a new nodule, only very small, on the opposide side of my penis. I had hoped it was nothing, but it's definitely there, definitely palpable and there is a small dent associated. Wether it's actually new or if it's just that I've not been actively looking is anyones guess. If it is new, then I'm 100% convinced I'm just one of the unlucky ones that has this disease for no trauma related reasons, just bad luck, because I've been nothing but careful for almost 12 months now.

My EQ continues to improve and due to this, I've now noticed some actual hourglassing that I think is associated with the above. The only problem is that it's more mid-shaft, where to my knowlege I have no issues, or didnt. Only very slight for now, more like a "step" - I can't fully tell because it's so minor at the moment but I'm thinking if there's a nodule on the other side then that'd be constricting things in more of a ring formation. Again, my EQ hasn't been this good in probably a year, so I may just be noticing what's been there for a while.

And yet, I am now able to fully and easily fill the SOMA tube - my main problem area that for months has never quite gotten there is finally filing in quite quickly, and for the first time in months I'm coming out of the SOMA without much curve at all.

I'm hoping that because I'm doing daily traction and daily VED, that these issues remain minor and under control. There's nothing else I can do.

I'm worried again, and that horrible pang of panic has started to come back, but at present I have no associated pain or discomfort (only the tiniest bit when I get an NTE) so I just have to hope that these are pre-existing issues that I'm just noticing now.
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

Sonic

Overall it sounds like you are noticing improvements even though you've noticed some new deformities/lumps it sounds to me like more on the positive side. Give this current treatment plan a year and if things have not improved by then it might be time for an implant. Sounds to me like you have a big chance of getting ''cured'' with your current plan.
30 years. Sudden rightwards curve detected in June 2020
Narrowing on right side and about a 20° curve to the right.
ED + instability due to narrowing.

thegreycat

First injury >:(

I've had constant struggles with frenulum edema, and so I tried a different method of entering the chamber.

I pumped half way, rotated, then pushed out so that the sluice etc were poking out a bit, but that pressure only took me half way in. Rotated and applied more vaccum, and off I went.

2 hours later I've come out with a very small blood blister on the head of my penis, and still the same edema issues, so I guess all I actually acheived was having the pressure too high in the glans cap.

So, this is me off traction and VED until it heals I guess. It's tiny and painless, but I won't chance making it worse by carrying on. Frustrating!
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.

thegreycat

Re started to VED use while this heals. VED doesn't appear to cause any discomfort or issues with the blood blister, which appears to be healing.

Eager to get back to traction. I'm basically 12 weeks in now and with minor improvements I don't want to fall off the wagon.
35. No injury. Lump Feb 22.
Pain, dent, left & upward bend ~50deg. Bad EQ.
Cialis Dac 22 - ear issues.
Diagnosed Feb 23.
VED Oct 22. PMP Feb 23.
Lump reduced May 23, dent remains, angle a little better. EQ improved.

Supportive partner, depression.