STAGE surgery with Dr. Kuehhas (October 2022)

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Citron99

Hello,

since this forum has helped me, I'd like to contribute as well. I have been diagnosed with ventral curvature, approximately 40 degrees and some scar tissue. So 4 incisions were made.

The process of examination and surgery was the same as others describe. Everything went quite smoothly. I had no significant pain or swelling.

I am now 5 weeks post-op. I will be going for a follow-up soon, but one thing scares me. I had an erection today during the day, I know I should shake it off right away, but since it happened...It is straight, smaller (retraction is clear), but I am concerned about the narrowing from the base towards the glans. The penis is quite flexible when flaccid, I haven't lost much, but the narrowing is weird?

Please give me your opinion, preferably those who have undergone this type of surgery, thank you.
40 degrees downward curvature

STAGE with Dr. Kuehhas in October 2022

Citron99

Update-> I should have mentioned, that this was my first surgery (hopefully last) and my curvature was congenital.

I had appointment today with Dr. Kuehhas. He examined my penis and was pleased with how everything has healed.
Also distracted my concerns about the narrowing. Each erection should be better and better, but it will take time. He also showed me how to use phallosan and with that I should reach full length in 3-4 months. I'm supposed to start at 5 minutes and add every day 5 minutes until I get to 1 hour (red mark), it seems low but I'll see how it goes and possibly ask if I can wear it longer. I am used to PE, I think everybody with this condition tried extenders,pumps etc. to straighten the curvature...
I will post some pics if things goes well...
40 degrees downward curvature

STAGE with Dr. Kuehhas in October 2022

lution3

Wishing you a great recovery! Keep us posted please

Citron99

8 weeks update

Positives-> it's straight, actually it curves upwards little bit, I like that. Erections are hard and frequent. I think I've gained back a little girth in the last two weeks, overall the shape is better. Good sensitivity.

Negatives->It's still short, I'm hovering around 16 cm (I desperately need another 2 cm :) ), I haven't gained much in the last 2 weeks as far as length goes. This is now my main concern! I think that's why the erections are so strong, I need like 70% erection before surgery to achieve 100% erection after surgery if you understand...erections are also still quite uncomfortable. I use phallosan regularly. However, in the flaccid state I can stretch my penis to about 18 cm (before the surgery the best result was 19.5 cm), so the erection should be longer already, I don't really understand...

Anyway, it's still early, I have to be patient and wait what the next weeks or months will bring. This phase is not much documented...I will post updates every 2 weeks.

40 degrees downward curvature

STAGE with Dr. Kuehhas in October 2022

overthecurve

Contrats for your courage and thanks for your contribution. Please post pictures of this journey, before and after!
- Peyronie diagnosed july 2021
- 30 degree curvature to the left and 10-15 degree upward, keep getting worse.
- Vitamine E and colchicine
- Penimaster pro for 3 months everyday, now once a week
- 31 y/o in a relationship
- Depressed/distressed

IwillbeatPD

36/Male/No underlying conditions: Symptoms began Sep 2022. Indentation mid-shaft right next to plaque. Mediocre erections with hinge effect. Taking Pentox 400mg 3x/day, Tadalafil 5mg daily, L-arginine, using heat, manual traction and VED.

Citron99

QuoteContrats for your courage and thanks for your contribution. Please post pictures of this journey, before and after!
Thank you! I'll upload pics soon..

QuoteWhat type of surgery did you have?
STAGE with Dr. Kuehhas
40 degrees downward curvature

STAGE with Dr. Kuehhas in October 2022

Connect1

At the moment, what is the cost of the stage operation?And is there an option to hire a translator for the conversation with dr.Kuehhas?

Citron99


For me, it was around 9 000 Eur total (without staying, travelling). I guess it is possible, but a friend would be a better choice..
40 degrees downward curvature

STAGE with Dr. Kuehhas in October 2022

Alex83


The doctor probably has a translator, you can ask him

In any case with Dr. Gelman I benefited from it but if it was not very useful, my English was enough
24 yo

2020: Nesbit surgery for a 55 degrees downward curvature with DrFaix
Result: Residual curvature of 30 degrees and an inflammatory scar

2022 : Surgery correction with Dr Gelman

I lost 2 cm during my Nesbit, I have regained 2 cm with traction

Citron99

10 weeks update

The penis is in a similar state as it was 14 days ago. Sensitivity good, it's straight with a bit of an upward curve, erections are still easy.

I may have gained a few mm in length. I use Phallosan regularly, I also include a light massage before going to bed and infrared light in some days. At flaccid my best result is around 18 cm (not bone pressed). Traction is definitely harder in winter than in summer :). Also, I don't think I have my girth back yet, but it's hard to judge because it's changed shape significantly, it's more oval.

I can still feel the stitches quite a bit, both on the sides (neurovascular bundle stitches?) and the dorsal part (plication stitches), and it's stiff in those places.

Again in two weeks...
40 degrees downward curvature

STAGE with Dr. Kuehhas in October 2022

Alex83


What are neurovascular bundle stitches?
Are these sutures placed by Kuehhas or did they occur naturally?
24 yo

2020: Nesbit surgery for a 55 degrees downward curvature with DrFaix
Result: Residual curvature of 30 degrees and an inflammatory scar

2022 : Surgery correction with Dr Gelman

I lost 2 cm during my Nesbit, I have regained 2 cm with traction

Citron99


Again, someone correct me if I'm wrong. Here you can see https://www.dr-kuehhas.at/en/treatments/congenital-penile-curvature/#video , that in case of ventral curvature the neurovascular bundle needs to be elevated in order to reach tunica and after plication it needs to be restitched, right? So you have actually quite a few stitches in your penis, not just from plication. These stitches on the sides should dissolve little bit earlier than the plication stitches...
40 degrees downward curvature

STAGE with Dr. Kuehhas in October 2022

Alex83

Quote from: Citron99 on January 05, 2023, 03:03:46 AM
Again, someone correct me if I'm wrong. Here you can see https://www.dr-kuehhas.at/en/treatments/congenital-penile-curvature/#video , that in case of ventral curvature the neurovascular bundle needs to be elevated in order to reach tunica and after plication it needs to be restitched, right? So you have actually quite a few stitches in your penis, not just from plication. These stitches on the sides should dissolve little bit earlier than the plication stitches...


Oh yes, I understand completely!
It seems that I have like you ! Gelman had sent me a picture of his procedure (attached)

- We can see as you say that there is a lateral closure as well, how many sutures do you feel on the side?
- I thought I read that you still had a swelling, does it slightly curve/twist your penis to one side?
24 yo

2020: Nesbit surgery for a 55 degrees downward curvature with DrFaix
Result: Residual curvature of 30 degrees and an inflammatory scar

2022 : Surgery correction with Dr Gelman

I lost 2 cm during my Nesbit, I have regained 2 cm with traction

Citron99



QuoteWe can see as you say that there is a lateral closure as well, how many sutures do you feel on the side?
- I thought I read that you still had a swelling, does it slightly curve/twist your penis to one side?

There are a lot of them, but I can't count them accurately, they're all along the length of the penis on each side. The only place where I don't have stitches is the first few cm of the shaft, this part is also completely soft, flexible as the whole penis was before the surgery. Now the whole penis acts more like it's made of rubber (that's what the scar does) if you understand, so when I wear it on one side it goes there, stretching helps.

Of course I'm also worried about everything returning to normal, it will take 6-12 months though. Thank you for the pic!

40 degrees downward curvature

STAGE with Dr. Kuehhas in October 2022

Alex83


All right! What's strange is that Gelman totally doesn't advice me to use traction
My penis seems to be rubber like you
Moreover, I still have swellings and it seems to curve my penis to the left, you don't have any more swellings?
24 yo

2020: Nesbit surgery for a 55 degrees downward curvature with DrFaix
Result: Residual curvature of 30 degrees and an inflammatory scar

2022 : Surgery correction with Dr Gelman

I lost 2 cm during my Nesbit, I have regained 2 cm with traction

Citron99

QuoteAll right! What's strange is that Gelman totally doesn't advice me to use traction
Yes, it's been said many times here, Gelman doesn't care about traction even though it's widely recommended, Mst had a good post about it...

QuoteMoreover, I still have swellings and it seems to curve my penis to the left, you don't have any more swellings?
Yes, it's still a little swollen from time to time, but it's definitely getting better...at flaccid it's just thicker, even when stretched it's thicker, but shorter
40 degrees downward curvature

STAGE with Dr. Kuehhas in October 2022

Connect1

Hello, Citron99!How is your uprising going, are you happy with Dr. Kuehhas? I am also considering corrective surgery with him, after my first Nesbit was a complete failure. My problem is that even now I feel discomfort, maybe from the threads, as if they are moving everywhere under my head. I have not heard if Kuehhas removes the old threads.

Alex83

Quote from: Citron99 on January 06, 2023, 04:10:22 AM
Yes, it's been said many times here, Gelman doesn't care about traction even though it's widely recommended, Mst had a good post about it...
Yes, it's still a little swollen from time to time, but it's definitely getting better...at flaccid it's just thicker, even when stretched it's thicker, but shorter

Yes I could read Mst's posts but he never posted to indicate if he finally did traction
24 yo

2020: Nesbit surgery for a 55 degrees downward curvature with DrFaix
Result: Residual curvature of 30 degrees and an inflammatory scar

2022 : Surgery correction with Dr Gelman

I lost 2 cm during my Nesbit, I have regained 2 cm with traction

Citron99

QuoteCitron99!How is your uprising going, are you happy with Dr. Kuehhas? I am also considering corrective surgery with him, after my first Nesbit was a complete failure. My problem is that even now I feel discomfort, maybe from the threads, as if they are moving everywhere under my head. I have not heard if Kuehhas removes the old threads.

Hi,

we'll have to wait a few months for the final result in my case. It's straight, sensitivity maintained, the only problem I have is the size. Objectively it is smaller, subjectively it seems even worse. It's a matter of perception, I like the shape of the erection now, if I could restore about 2 cm in length I will be satisfied and the result of the surgery will be 100% success.

I can only advise you to go for a consultation, ultrasound examination and you will be wiser...

QuoteYes I could read Mst's posts but he never posted to indicate if he finally did traction
I'd say, if he's not against it, I'd start around week 5 with traction...It's quite an invasive operation though, start very carefully...
40 degrees downward curvature

STAGE with Dr. Kuehhas in October 2022

Citron99

40 degrees downward curvature

STAGE with Dr. Kuehhas in October 2022

bensimon

Thank you for keeping us updated. Wishing you the best of luck in regaining the size.

overthecurve

- Peyronie diagnosed july 2021
- 30 degree curvature to the left and 10-15 degree upward, keep getting worse.
- Vitamine E and colchicine
- Penimaster pro for 3 months everyday, now once a week
- 31 y/o in a relationship
- Depressed/distressed

Citron99

Hi,

I would say that the beginning and middle of the shaft is relatively ok. The problem is the top and especially under the glans. Before surgery my glans was just a little bit wider than the shaft, now it's a lot bigger, it looks weird. I'm hoping this will improve once the stitches dissolve and the penis will be more flexible...
40 degrees downward curvature

STAGE with Dr. Kuehhas in October 2022

overthecurve

Thanks man! I have a virtual appointment with him very soon. You give me hope. Do you mind sharing your before and after results ? That would mean the world the me! thanks a lot in advance.
- Peyronie diagnosed july 2021
- 30 degree curvature to the left and 10-15 degree upward, keep getting worse.
- Vitamine E and colchicine
- Penimaster pro for 3 months everyday, now once a week
- 31 y/o in a relationship
- Depressed/distressed

Citron99

Yes, I'll post the pics eventually, probably this weekend...All the best.
40 degrees downward curvature

STAGE with Dr. Kuehhas in October 2022