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Bud luck

Is traction really safe?, I just read at one of the top leading urologist site that is not safe!!!, he mentioned not to use traction on the penis because it can make it worse. This is so beyond depressing, that the only thing that I thought was safe seems is not. Then you have other Urologists like Levine, Trost, Moncada....that recommend to do traction. Did anyone did a "scientific" study about the effects of traction on penis fibrosis?, I want to use my traction device again  but I'm afraid, and for how long is safe to use it?, my penis keeps getting worse and is been over 3 years since the trauma
My first symptoms started early in 2019
I tried Traction device, Pentofixiline, Q10, TRT, L-Argenine, cialis
I have narrowing/dent/hinge on the left side of my shaft
My ED is getting worse
Had a PRP shot Aug 2021
I have a girlfriend
Age 46

Jamesblue

Traction can cause bankruptcy  
June 2021- observed curve
September - increased curve
October - confirmed Peyronies, refered onwards to Peyronies specialist Urologist - November
Meanwhile immediately commenced traction with RestoreX after initial  visit and confirmation

Sonic

Unfortunately I cannot give a good answer here other than use it with light pulling force if you want to use it again. Every single person and doctor has a different answer. Most studies in regards to our condition have been made on traction, I cannot find that many on VED effects. If you genuinely feel it is worsening your condition then do not use it.
30 years. Sudden rightwards curve detected in June 2020
Narrowing on right side and about a 20° curve to the right.
ED + instability due to narrowing.

orriw

i would only recommend it if you have very clear Peyronies Disease symtoms and are diagnosed. And then try it very gentle.
Me for example, probably i dont have Peyronies Disease.  I am not in the age group (am 25) and still have pain 4 years in, this is probably not Peyronies Disease. This is why i will not do traction or VED. I think it could make things worse.
26y, injured at 21 :/

Reinjured late 2019 when having sex with weak errection.
No curvature, but rotation of the base to the left about 30degrees
Main problem: chronic flaccid pain.

Trying different stuff now

Bud luck

Orriw, I also have rotation coming from the penis crus, it started 6 months ago, I wonder if it was the Restorex that caused it, the traction was too much. They told me that I don't have a plaque, so traction is not recommend for rotation/ hourglass?
My first symptoms started early in 2019
I tried Traction device, Pentofixiline, Q10, TRT, L-Argenine, cialis
I have narrowing/dent/hinge on the left side of my shaft
My ED is getting worse
Had a PRP shot Aug 2021
I have a girlfriend
Age 46

Sonic

Quote from: Bud luck on September 14, 2022, 11:59:26 AM
Orriw, I also have rotation coming from the penis crus, it started 6 months ago, I wonder if it was the Restorex that caused it, the traction was too much. They told me that I don't have a plaque, so traction is not recommend for rotation/ hourglass?

And that is the most hilarious thing about this disease is that those of us whom they cannot find any plaque upon examination on seems worse of than those with it... Because we likely have spread out fibrosis all over the penis hence the weaker erections, narrowing, axial instabilty and so on...

We do not respond well to standard treatments which is a big factor as of why we also suffer more psychologically.
30 years. Sudden rightwards curve detected in June 2020
Narrowing on right side and about a 20° curve to the right.
ED + instability due to narrowing.

Bud luck

Sonic, don't you think traction could help with the curve?, it won't help with the dent or the hourglass but don't you think maybe would help with the curve? Did you try traction?, and if I can ask, how did you get your fibrosis? Trauma?, out of the blue? Medications?
My first symptoms started early in 2019
I tried Traction device, Pentofixiline, Q10, TRT, L-Argenine, cialis
I have narrowing/dent/hinge on the left side of my shaft
My ED is getting worse
Had a PRP shot Aug 2021
I have a girlfriend
Age 46

Tobyg

I didn't try the traction device and I'm also curious.
I had manual traction. It's the only thing that changed my penis. I had good and bad changes. I don't like to recommend something that could make the situation worse, even if there's a chance it could get better. I think doctors need to do more research. and combine it with another treatment.
I'm desperate for something to get me out of this nightmare.
32 years,injured at 25.
Slight curve, narrowing and retraction in flaccid and semi-erect.
Loss of sensitivity due to peyronie and circumcision  moderate erectile dysfunction, pain.
I improved the pelvic floor with kinesiology.
Frequent urination.

Sonic

Quote from: Bud luck on September 14, 2022, 08:03:40 PM
Sonic, don't you think traction could help with the curve?, it won't help with the dent or the hourglass but don't you think maybe would help with the curve? Did you try traction?, and if I can ask, how did you get your fibrosis? Trauma?, out of the blue? Medications?

I do think it can help with curves there are many guys online who have posted pics. Nolte on here had a rather sharp bend and with constant use of a PMP his penis became fully straight again his post is in the accounts of improvement board so yes, I do think it can def help but the problem is I have also heard it can aggravate narrowing and hourglassing. I am not qualified to make any statements regarding this but my personal view is that those who benefit from traction are those with standard peyronies curves, not us with hourglassing.

The fibrosis was 90% sexually related. It was a period when I started suffering from Erectile Dysfunction because of crippling depression having lost a family member so I took 10mg of Cialis to help battle it.

The one particular night I am 95% sure caused this the following happened. I took 10 mg dose as per usual, this gave me erections so rock hard I have never experienced anything like it possibly it caused too much pressure inside the penis anyway me and GF at the time had sex and I have no idea all I know is that when she was on top I felt something pop but I think this might just have been a ligament pop because I felt no significant pain in that particular area.

What I think happened is that we did it way too much that night because the day after my entire penis was sore. This soreness lasted maybe 3-4 days and went over. However a few weeks later I started noticing a curve to the right so I started googling and from then I knew 100% I had this condition. For me the curve has not really gotten any worse from the moment I got it all the way until now over 2 years later but sadly narrowing on the right side with a partiuclar dent located near the base of the right side has caused axial instability, Erectile Dysfunction and a weak point where the dent is located because the area does not fill out.

I have not tried traction properly. I once got an SizeGenetics but quickly returned it because I just coulnd't see myself wearing that for multiple hours a day. I am now strongly considering purchasing a SomaCorrect VED and strictly following the forums protocol of holds for 10-15 seconds to prevent further injury, give it 6 months and see what happens. Some days I feel so bad I am strongly considering an implant but I do not know who the hell in Sweden has enough expertise on that surgery to warrant a good result and I simply cannot afford traveling over seas and have it done.

Sorry for long post but as a final word I would just say I am in constant battle with this every day. Exercise like high intensity cardio and trying to keep my diet as strict as possible are the only things that give me a mental boost to try and stay positive each day. Without excercise I would probably fall into a very deep depression so even though I am pretty much every day upset about this condition because it has impacted my sex life very negatively I still try to remain positive and sometimes reading this forum about guys who have gotten significantly better it gives me a bit more motivation to carry on.

Hope this helped.
30 years. Sudden rightwards curve detected in June 2020
Narrowing on right side and about a 20° curve to the right.
ED + instability due to narrowing.

orriw

Hello Sonic nice insights, and the case of your injury and how it would be only sure with not much pain the next days, then curvature months later sounds very familiar to me. Do you have any pain ? Flaccid pain?
26y, injured at 21 :/

Reinjured late 2019 when having sex with weak errection.
No curvature, but rotation of the base to the left about 30degrees
Main problem: chronic flaccid pain.

Trying different stuff now

Sonic

Quote from: orriw on September 16, 2022, 03:33:15 PM
Hello Sonic nice insights, and the case of your injury and how it would be only sure with not much pain the next days, then curvature months later sounds very familiar to me. Do you have any pain ? Flaccid pain?

I have never experienced any pain other than those first 3-4 days of moderately sharp soreness all over the penis. After that subsided I have never experienced pain. It is worth to remember many men with the disease never really experience any pain at all. I've never experienced any flaccid pain or any sort of uncomfortable feeling while flaccid. I do still to this day get a little uncomfortable feeling when erect because of the dent and how that area does not expand...
30 years. Sudden rightwards curve detected in June 2020
Narrowing on right side and about a 20° curve to the right.
ED + instability due to narrowing.

orriw

Intersting, our case sounds so similiar yet you have no pain or discomfort flaccid. I wonder if something different happened with us or just the outcome was different. Did you let your penis rest in the time after the injury or use it?  
26y, injured at 21 :/

Reinjured late 2019 when having sex with weak errection.
No curvature, but rotation of the base to the left about 30degrees
Main problem: chronic flaccid pain.

Trying different stuff now

Sonic

I used it. Almost immediately even with the ongoing soreness. In hindsight I am almost 90% sure that made it worse. I think if I let it rest for just a whole week the outcome would have been different. Also had I found this forum sooner I am 90% sure I could have prevented it from progressing the way it did.

I mean, for the first 5 or 6 months all I did was take Vitamin E orally which is completely useless and doesn't do anything. Had I started taking Citruline and low dose cialis to promote blood flow sooner instead of taking garbage vitamin E it would aid healing. Just pointless ramblings because what's done is done no point dwelling about it.

Over 2 years had passed and not even the curve thats the big problem, the big problem is the ED..
30 years. Sudden rightwards curve detected in June 2020
Narrowing on right side and about a 20° curve to the right.
ED + instability due to narrowing.

orriw

Okay i undestand, yes i wished i did not use it so soon too.
I also have some Erectile Dysfunction issues, but probably mostly psychological, i can still get hard errections at night and at morning, hbu?
My pain / discomfort, is the worst tho, you can be so glad you do not have it .
I wonder if we have some invisible scar and my happens to be close to a nerve, yours not maybe? Who knows.

What kind of personality are you? A happy person, good life, optimistic? I am wondering if this could make a difference in how a person perceives pain and discomfort and Erectile Dysfunction. Actually i am optimistic i think. But over 4 years chronic pain is taking its toll of course. I can not imagine living another 50 years, always with this pain till i die from old age ... Hope i will find something one day that stiill can help after all this time
26y, injured at 21 :/

Reinjured late 2019 when having sex with weak errection.
No curvature, but rotation of the base to the left about 30degrees
Main problem: chronic flaccid pain.

Trying different stuff now

Sonic

I am indeed thankful that I do not experience pain like many others do.

Morning erections are very weird. Prior to getting this I had them EVERY morming.

Now I sometimes wake up with them, and many times wake up completely soft. It's like russian roulette.

Urologist has palpated 2 times and said he could feel no plaque and he did not perform an ultrasound. How I am as a person right now I would say depressed not just because of Peyronies but other circumstances I won't go into here. All I can say is that Peyronies has intensified that depression by tenfold.

You are also young like me I can see in your sig. I got the disease when I was 27. It is real tough to come to terms with the fact that you have a totally dysfunctional dick at such young age. I think most guys would feel like this. It's made me anxios about trying to find new relationships...
30 years. Sudden rightwards curve detected in June 2020
Narrowing on right side and about a 20° curve to the right.
ED + instability due to narrowing.

Sonic

Bud Luck, what traction device do you own? PMP or one of those noose based rod systems?

What did your urologist say about it? If you are afraid to use it consult the uro.
30 years. Sudden rightwards curve detected in June 2020
Narrowing on right side and about a 20° curve to the right.
ED + instability due to narrowing.

Bud luck

I own the Androperoynes, some Urologists told me to use it and some don't, and there is one who told me that the traction devices are dangerous and not to ever use them. I'm not doing any traction at the moment.
My first symptoms started early in 2019
I tried Traction device, Pentofixiline, Q10, TRT, L-Argenine, cialis
I have narrowing/dent/hinge on the left side of my shaft
My ED is getting worse
Had a PRP shot Aug 2021
I have a girlfriend
Age 46