Phallosan

[dioporcolorisolvo]

Does anyone know Phallosan?

Can it be a better solution rather traction or VED?

[Tim468]

Looks like other similar devices (and some a lot cheaper). Seems to make sense but has not been compared to the VED in any way (not that the VED has been validated well either).

Tim

[newguy]

It looks like a vacuum stretch device. Though there is a vacuum component, that would only apply to the head of the penis, so I certainly wouldn't compare it to a VED. I think vacuum stretch units are most useful for men who for one reason or another have issues with wearing typical traction units.  

[Luciano]

I had looked into it
actually its the same principle than any other stretching device,
with the difference that you wear a special condom over the gland to hold the penis in place.
in some penis enlargment forums people are using both.
bottom line of a guy using both:

FastSize seems to work faster and more steady gains.
phallosan is the most stealthy device with the best comfort and it works, but it takes longer time. Personally I like the phallosan........simply more comfortable and easy to use, but you may need to spend more $ on it for replacement condom. Because they don't last as long.

just do a google search for: phallosan vs fastsize
Luc

[newguy]

I had looked into it
actually its the same principle than any other stretching device,
with the difference that you wear a special condom over the gland to hold the penis in place.
in some penis enlargment forums people are using both.

It stays on by suction/vacuum though right? I did try one device like that (i don't recall the name, though I've mentioned it before). It stayed on really easily, though it tended to draw fluid into the head of the penis over time and circulation seemed to be impeded too. I could wear it for, say 3 hours without issues though. I suppose there would be scope for wearing such a device twice a day for 3 hour at a time. It's good that there are multiple options out there for people. If one device doesn't fit well, then another likely will.

From reading the comparison, I would say that the phallosan doesn't pull as much. A genlte stretch perhpas, which is probably why it is said to be possibe to wear for longer than I would have imagined. Of course what works for the penis entension crows might not work for peyronie's sufferers and vice versa. Whether an all day gentle stretch (phallosan) is better than a slightly more intense stretch (fastsize, androipenis etc) is better for peyronie's is anyones guess. Maybe it depends on the stage of the condition. Maybe a traditional traction device is the way to go, then a phallosan gentle stretch option can offer a new approach and keep the penis healthy? A study would be useful.

[BSSS]

anyone else use this device? Am considering buying one so that I could wear it at work or wherever else. Am interested in hearing from folks that have worn it?

Thanks!
BSSS

[Ben]

I have red on a board dedicated on penis enlargement and there was much topics about phallosan. It was ok to stimulate blood flow on the penis, but there were no lenght gain (flacid or erected). It's much more confortable that's a fact but the results are poors compared to fast size and other devices.

On top of that you'll have to buy and change the condom regularly. I don't try to say you won't have results with phallosan but if you want to invest time and money on something, Fast Size is the best (or andropenis)

[BSSS]

I have red on a board dedicated on penis enlargement and there was much topics about phallosan. It was ok to stimulate blood flow on the penis, but there were no lenght gain (flacid or erected). It's much more confortable that's a fact but the results are poors compared to fast size and other devices.

On top of that you'll have to buy and change the condom regularly. I don't try to say you won't have results with phallosan but if you want to invest time and money on something, Fast Size is the best (or andropenis)

thanks Ben, but can one wear those units at work? or just at home?

[fubar]

Bsss

Yes you can wear them at work .You have to have some room for it though.
You run into some trouble when you start adding on more extension rods and the stetch gets longer.This also makes getting in,out and sitting in a vehicle challenging at times Then you always have the chance of a traction device popping off and coming apart and sliding down your leg and out on the ground.I found wearing thermal or base layer bottoms keep it from falling out onto the ground.It will be trapped around your ankles.So you can get to a restroom without being exposed.

I have worn a traction device at work many times and nobody knows i have it on!

Fubar

[james1947]

Steve4243

How long time you are using the device and how many hours per day?
What are the improvements that makes you very satisfied using the device?
Will appreciate your update on the subject, it may benefit others on the forum also.

James

[newguy]

I have some recent experience of using a vacuum traction unit but where I'm able to gauge how much force is applied. I wanted to replicate the force applied through more traditional penis extender devices (600g-1200g) via a suction unit. That's because for whatever reason, my fastsize unit started to slip off. I want to get 1000 hours under my belt (the traction holy grail)  before commenting because I feel that will enable me to be an accurate report in terms of my own experience. For those getting on well with traditional traction units there's probably no need to divert from that path though. The only downside I have heard with these suction devices is the potential for a blister on the head of the penis, or the foreskin being stretched. I haven't experienced either yet mind you.

[james1947]

As Steve4243 was banned I will never get answers from him  

I will wait for newguy 1000 hours traction report   I am not using traction device, but it will help us understand the benefits of using it, not from the manufacturers promotion report.

James

[Hawk]

Newguy,

I am interested in the vacuum traction device you have and where you ordered it.  The people at the Phallosan website seem unresponsive of non-existant.

As far as the Fastsize starting to slip off, I assume you are using the wide comfort strap.  If so, I have noticed the same under maximum tension but corrected it by putting any kind of small clamp to clamp the tails of the straps together.  A small clamp for holding paper stacks of paper works fine.

[denteddick]

I was diagnosed about 6 months ago with Peyronies disease. At that time it was just dent in the top side of penis when erect.
A urologist squeezed kind of hard and made dent bigger. It seem to get a little less dented but then started curving up.
Within the last few weeks it's really starting to curve up, like it's progressing fast.

I tried an Andros Extender to stretch it but I can't possibly wear that thing for hours - not at work and not when sleeping.
I'm considering trying the Phallosan product if only because I can wear it to work and while I'm sleeping.
I was able to find anyone with experience with this product on on this site yet.

It so easy to get suckered into trying something when you feeling desperate to save your penis. My wife's not happy with my Andros Extender costing $300 and not being usable. She is supportive though. She confirmed the curve has radically increased in the last week and it's not
just my imagination.

I bought some Neprinol recently but it's gotten worse while taking that (don't think it's related).

Today I bought some Acetyl-L-Carnitine as I found promising results out of a double blind study connected to the Beth Israel Hospital in Boston.
I think this is the first double blind positive result study I've seen for any supplement. Potaba seems to arrest it. Acetyl-L-Caratine seems to
reverse the curvature. http://www.bidmc.org/YourHealth/ConditionsAZ/Crohnsdisease.aspx?ChunkID=35551

[james1947]

denteddick

Thanks for the link and welcome to the forum.
It is indeed very intersting and reinforcing George theory regarding Acetyl L-Carnitine. Many of us are taking it on the forum.
From your link to the link bellow, dedicated to Carnitine:
http://www.bidmc.org/YourHealth/ConditionsAZ/Crohnsdisease.aspx?ChunkID=21450

James

[denteddick]

Thanks for the welcome James.
How much Acetyle-L-Carnitine are folks taking?

Do you know of any success with Phallosan?

Jack

[james1947]

Denteddick

I am taking 2*500mg daily, some people 3*500mg daily. Maybe other dosages are better, I don't know.
Regarding Phallosan, I don't have more information than on the forum

James

[garyk]

Hi, sorry for my english...I have bought phalson because for all my internet research I understood that any traction device is the most helpful treatment I can do, I have knew it wont be possible for me to wear it day time so I looked for one which the producer recommend it for sleep, phalson was the only one...it was very expensive and custom service was poor but I was sure it is the only thing hat will save me and I must have it no matter what....
well, I dont know any other device so it is hard to say but, it is not so comfortable, it sleeps of all the time, it hurts and it doesnt feel so accurate because it pulls to the side of the body and not forward as natural- desirable, so I have stopped using it...I wish I had another way to go ....I m hoping and dreaming for a yoga teacher to show mw some ways how to practice to stretch it in a natural way to the natural state...
But' again, it was a personal experience and may be it is good for others...till this yoga teacher arrives I m thinking of buying the andropeyronie,as my urologist told me I can sleep with it, any recommendations?

[QuackAttack]

Gary,

The Phallosan is easily the most comfortable traction device on the market. I have a Sizegenetics and the Phallosan and it's not even close. If it is slipping off, you may have too large of a condom on, so size down. Make sure to use baby powder on the condom which will help with comfort, preventing slippage and protect the condom from tearing. Once you have the condom on and you have created the vacuum, try both sides to see which one feels more comfortable. It feels more comfortable to the right for me and you can switch back and forth. You would be surprised how well it works during the day. Nobody will notice and you can do pretty much anything unless you are a professional athlete and need to wear a cup. Also, make sure you have the belt at the waistline to ensure even and not excessive tension.

[Jonbinspain]

Just a note of caution here from my personal experience. Phallosan loves selling their devices, their after sales service they seem to pay far less attention to!

I had two of their condoms split easily on me - one on the very first attempt at using it. They had been powdered correctly, etc. I therefore emailed Phallosan to complain. It took a few increasingly forceful emails to even get a response from them. They asked me to take a photo of the torn condom(s) and send it to them.  I replied that I could not as in the interim I had discarded them. I asked if they were doubting my word?  Another wait before I got a response just repeating that without a photo they couldn't replace the condom!  

It strikes me that they don't really give a damn about their customers unless they're giving them money. If they show such reluctance to replace a relatively minor part of their device, one wonders what their response would be to a major problem!  

[QuackAttack]

Jon,

I think it is the industry as a whole. I provided the exact testimony with pictures to Sizegenetics that they were looking for in order to get a refund. I sent that in about a month ago and I still haven't received a refund. If I don't get a refund this week, I plan to write and complain about false advertisement and say that I'll post my experience on the Internet. Not that a US company is better, but PF and SG are German made and being married to somebody that is of German heritage, I can say Germans are very frugal and don't want to give up any money.

[Jonbinspain]

Quack attack;

I think that in general you're right. However, a while back I had a problem with the battery operated head of an Encore VED. Basically, it just stopped working after about 2 months. I wrote to the supplier and they replaced the head with no questions asked. So, there are some customer friendly suppliers around.

Phallosan just ain't one of them. Nor Sizegenetics, by the sound of it!