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Curvekiller94

https://www.urotoday.com/recent-abstracts/men-s-health/peyronie-s-disease/136748-complete-plaque-regression-in-patients-with-peyronie-s-disease-after-multimodal-treatment-with-antioxidants-a-report-of-2-cases.amp.html

I've heard of taking pentox not injecting - seems promising would be interesting to know what type of antioxidants
28 y/o
sex injury - gradually got worse
Hard flaccid, Indentation bottom left close to my body,  mild twist left
28° up 28° Left
official diagnosed @26 peyronies w/pain
Pentox, cialis, NSAID, tramadol(as needed)
Sciatic  pain radiates penis to foo

lgrace

Thanks. Very interesting. The ultra-sound pictures are encouraging.
However, this was tried on only 2 patients, obviously in the acute phase.
Hopefully they try it on more patients, in the chronic phase as well.

I hope this won't be yet another interesting lead that fades into oblivion.

Curvekiller94

My thoughts exactly Igrace to me it helps me keep some form of hope to know this is a very recent study and at least someone is looking into this
28 y/o
sex injury - gradually got worse
Hard flaccid, Indentation bottom left close to my body,  mild twist left
28° up 28° Left
official diagnosed @26 peyronies w/pain
Pentox, cialis, NSAID, tramadol(as needed)
Sciatic  pain radiates penis to foo

lgrace

It would be a good thing to contact the center in Rome, to know a bit more and to ask if they plan to continue with this procedure (on chronic cases especially). I think it's also good that the urologists who try new approaches get encouraged by Peyronies Disease patients, who are all potential clients of an effective procedure.

I will try to look into it this week-end, to send an email to the center. Maybe our Italian forum members can help as well !

Realvinni2000

I had those, I would say it helped in elasticity of the penis.
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Mr man

I had 3 pentox injections. Done in 2019. I also have regular traction. Almost daily.  my bend has reduced to a curve but is still 30 degree. The plaque has softened but overal I can't say I am cured.  
Latest routine. Started l-lysine 3mg daily, l-proline 5mg daily. Increased vit c intake. Accompanied with almost daily vacuum therapy. Pumping to 100% Exercise caution! Made good progress. L arginine supplements and prescribed potaba are helping.

LWillisjr

Pentox injections, are you sure???   Pentox is not injected. It is an oral medication.
Developed peyronies 2007 - 70 degree dorsal curve
Traction/MEDs/Injections/Surgery 2008 16 years Peyronies free now
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hope4thebest

It is injected, but I think only in Italy mostly.
Trauma 2022 August, first deformation seen 2022 November. Very mild curve to the right. Indentation on the right side below the glans. Now hourglass just below the glans. Looking for treatment options.

Mr man

Quote from: LWillisjr on November 14, 2022, 09:31:06 AM
Pentox injections, are you sure???   Pentox is not injected. It is an oral medication.

No. It is also available in glass vials for injection purposes. I am sure.
Latest routine. Started l-lysine 3mg daily, l-proline 5mg daily. Increased vit c intake. Accompanied with almost daily vacuum therapy. Pumping to 100% Exercise caution! Made good progress. L arginine supplements and prescribed potaba are helping.

FrankPD

Wow, I hope we're one step closer even if it takes years.

Be well.
I have a girlfriend
Age 47, No injury
Diagnosis January 2022  
Six plaques
Hourglassing when flaccid and semi-erect
Only have my congenital curve
Massaging with vitamin E cream twice a day 
5mg Tadalafil, Healthy diet
Discomfort/aching sometimes

martin111

There is already one topic on the forum related to study using treatment with pentox injections, link below. The topic contains opinion of one guy who had injections. I also added comment there with link to the page describing effects of such treatment with pictures.

https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,18183.msg154620.html
early 30s
unclear imaging results
slight left curvature + lump on left distal dorsal part since teenager
2 soft vein-like ribs on right side + small 2 dents around when flaccid
sometimes sensation/aching on right side when flaccid for long time

Peyronnium

I thought this was a very interesting paper

don't think I have ever seen documented case of complete 100% plaque resolution

they used a big concoction of many different anti-oxidants. seems like the products they used were pills that had a whole bunch of these anti-oxidants in one pill. seems like it is hard to get these particular products outside of Italy/Europe

I thought it curious that one of their cases derived all the benefit despite refusing the pentox injections.

many limitations to the study no doubt. would be awesome if there were bigger studies seeing how these combos of anti-oxidants work. many of the previous studies on anti-oxidants were quite short-term (less than 12 months) and it seems here much of the benefit takes ~4-5 years to really appreciate
Early 30's. Ongoing for 1 year.
Not sure if Peyronie's or HFS (or both!)
On oral pentox+cialis

Realvinni2000

I had many, the therapy was a bit costly but helped, for some years at least. The shot is done not into the plaque and the needle is ths smaller available  
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brdman13

Anyone know if there are any Doctors in America that will do Pentox injections.  I've seen at least too trials where injections were used and showed a bigger reduction in plaque size, even calcified.  My doctor refusing to do anything outside of grafting surgery  
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LWillisjr

Quote from: brdman13 on March 30, 2023, 07:48:26 PMAnyone know if there are any Doctors in America that will do Pentox injections.

Did you mean Xiaflex injections? The protocol is generally to do Xiaflex injections first to see if they work before surgery. Unless you have an extreme curve. You might want to share some additional symptoms you are experiencing as it will aid members here to offer any advice.
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zoned999

I just got a few pentox needles yesterday. Into the plaque. Talk about an acid burn...whoa! had to dig deep in that one, wasn't sure whether to laugh or cry...Burn gone in 30 min. Feel pretty good today.
47, married. Noticed lump with pain, Diagnosed March 2023. 1cm Plaque in septum. Suspected repeated injuries. No curve, slight indent, painful daily with good and bad days. In intense treatment.