Erection by hand vs VED

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Dangerreid

If you can get erections by hand and don't actually masterbate  to ejaculation is this as beneficial and have the same effect as VED?

Or is there an added advantage to VED?
Age 32
Injury Jan 2020. Was using cock ring. Sudden loss of erection and it flopped to the side.
Erection Quality has been bad since
Uro prescribed Cialis.  Worked for a few days. Now seems to have stopped

Hawk

That depends on your objective.  You are posting under "Devices for Erectile Dysfunction"  if you are talking about VED for restoring size or correcting deformity
that is here -->https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/board,38.0.html

A VED will usually put more stretching than a normal erection unless you get rock-hard erections like a healthy 18-year-old.  If you do, I would agree that a one-cylinder VED won't likely do a lot more.  A 3-cylinder VED might.
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
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Dangerreid

 Thanks Hawk. With hand I can get to about 90% of EQ and am trying to get back closer to 100.

I purchased a VED to increase blood flow but now think if I can get an 90% erection by hand that this may be just as beneficial.

I have only pumped to 50% erection anyway so not sure if it benefits me
Age 32
Injury Jan 2020. Was using cock ring. Sudden loss of erection and it flopped to the side.
Erection Quality has been bad since
Uro prescribed Cialis.  Worked for a few days. Now seems to have stopped

Hawk

Again it depends on the goal.  If the goal is regaining lost size you have to pump enough to stretch the penis.  That is not 80% or even 90%.  If the goal is to just oxygenate the tissue then 50 - 60 % will do it with short hold times (a few minutes), deflate, then repeat to draw in fresh blood.

If you are trying to straighten a curve I comment finding the VED protocol posted by Old Man
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
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latoyban

Quote from: Hawk on April 24, 2022, 08:50:07 PM
That depends on your objective.  You are posting under "Devices for Erectile Dysfunction"  if you are talking about VED for restoring size or correcting deformity
that is here -->https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/board,38.0.html

A VED will usually put more stretching than a normal erection unless you get rock-hard erections like a healthy 18-year-old.  If you do, I would agree that a one-cylinder VED won't likely do a lot more.  A 3-cylinder VED might.
Thanks! also helpful for me.