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Proximal plaque(close to the body)
« on: December 23, 2021, 03:55:37 PM »

Hi,
I just read Dr. Trost response to the question.
https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,17019.msg147877.html#msg147877

I have similar case I think. I feel i have a plaque at the base which cause my penis to deflect at the base. Uros couldn’t feel the plaque either but I feel there’s a plaque deep inside which cause penis to deflect at base. Since, Dr. Trost said in his response that it is difficult to treat proximal plaque with traditional methods, should I just consider a surgery instead of wasting my time on other treatments?

Please let me know.
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Re: Proximal plaque(close to the body)
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2021, 05:25:52 PM »

Hi,
I just read Dr. Trost response to the question.
https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,17019.msg147877.html#msg147877

I have similar case I think. I feel i have a plaque at the base which cause my penis to deflect at the base. Uros couldn’t feel the plaque either but I feel there’s a plaque deep inside which cause penis to deflect at base. Since, Dr. Trost said in his response that it is difficult to treat proximal plaque with traditional methods, should I just consider a surgery instead of wasting my time on other treatments?

Please let me know.

Surgery is the last option and I don't know, how long you have symptoms and how bad they are. If you have really Peyronies Disease, the disease has to be stable for minimum 6 months.

I always would try traction and antioxidants to enter chronic state. Maybe you will experience self heal without surgery.

Good luck!
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Re: Proximal plaque(close to the body)
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2021, 05:56:50 PM »

Hi Nolte94,

Thanks for the reply. Does traction and antioxidants help to calcify the plaque? Would traction really help for me because I might have plaque deep inside of base? And if yes, which VED do you think would be best for me?
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Re: Proximal plaque(close to the body)
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2021, 06:19:23 PM »

Going into chronic stage is not the same as plaque calcified. Traction or Ved or antioxidants will not cause you to calcification. You do NOT want calcification as then not even traction or any non surgical method can treat scar tissue. Calcification is almost always identified in ultrasound. If the doctor sees no calcification it is a good sign that non surgical methods like traction using RestoreX or Ved will atleast improve your case if not completely cure it. Also between traction and VED, traction is more beneficial. Invest in a good device like RestoreX.
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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2021, 01:34:21 AM »

Hi GaussRifle, thanks for the reply.
My understanding is:
The acute stage is where scar tissue starts to get calcified and when it completely calcifies, Peyronies Disease goes to chronic stage. And only in chronic stage, doctors can use xiaflex or a surgery and not in acute stage. Also, I believe, plaque can be only seen in MRI or ultrasound after calcification.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Also, one question: How can someone find if they have a plaque or not(if not palpable) if they are in very early acute phase of the disease? MRI or ultrasound which is more accurate for this state?
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Re: Proximal plaque(close to the body)
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2021, 06:05:32 AM »

Calcification is the worst case like GaussRifle already has written. Chronic stage is, when the disease is stable.

I can only recommend things, which has helped me, but I can't say, that the same definitely will help you
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Re: Proximal plaque(close to the body)
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2021, 02:21:43 PM »

Akch, your understanding is incorrect. Accute stage doesn't always progress to calcification and be called chronic stage. Chronic stage simply means no more plaque is being formed. You first get acute stage that may last upto 1 to 1. 5 years where plaque can grow and then you enter chronic stage where plaque no more grows and doesn't cause pain. Calcification is a completely different problem. It is when calcium starts depositing on top of plaque turning it into bone. Few people get Calcification,  it is the worst form of peyronies as at this point , no injection like xiaflex or traction will work. Afterall, nothing will work on bone ! Only surgery will work and that too with side effects.

Moreover, in early acute stage neither Mri nor ultrasound may show plaque. You need to understand that plaque is made up of same tissue as rest of penis. Only difference is there is disorganized collagen instead of organized one.   Ultrasound is great fir detecting calcified plaques only. For rest of people the only way to know you have a plaque is through touch or if you have a deformity like indentation that is unexplained.
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Re: Proximal plaque(close to the body)
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2021, 02:39:21 PM »

Thanks GaussRifle for reply. So, you think I won’t be able to find if there’s any plaque by ultrasound or MRI if i am in acute stage?

Also, will RestoreX help to lessen the plaque resulting in reducing the curve? Or traction devices only reduces the curve and not lessen the plaque?
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