Trauma when younger leading to Peyronies Disease in the future?

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Benraycamp0

I recently read over Dr. Yafi's page (https://faysalyafimd.com/) on Peyronie's Disease and came across this:

"There is a causal relationship between Peyronie's disease and an injury or trauma to the penis. Often, any penile related trauma takes place prior to adolescence or adulthood and leaves no significant memory for the affected male to recall. As the condition may not manifest or cause difficulties until middle age, any inability on the male's part to remember causation is normal."

This seems to explain the mystery that men can't recall trauma by suggesting that any trauma had taken place many years ago and it is just now manifesting. When I spoke to Dr. Levine, he mentioned that he's had patients who are currently in their 50s when they presented to his clinic and when asked about previous trauma, some would recall that in their 20s they had a new curve develop in their penis that completely went away after some time. And now they present with full blown Peyronies Disease.

I'm curious if anyone had thoughts on this or heard similar? It seems strange that a wound can just sit there, unhealed for so many years, and then suddenly continue healing (incorrectly) which causes Peyronies Disease.
26 years old. 20 degree upward curve with slight clockwise twist. Symptoms onset Dec 20.
Dr. Levine says it's not Peyronie's Disease but a slow healing wound. Saw him Mar 21 and May 21.
Traction (PMP) and supplements per Dr. Levine's recommendation.

GaussRifle

From a scientific point of view this makes little sense to me. When you have penis trauma, your body needs to heal it immediately. Either it heals without excessive collagen or it heals with excessive collagen deposition. Either way the healing should be complete in a year or two and can't just show up decades later.


I think what really happens is that any trauma keeps adding to fibrosis until a threshold is reached where the fibrosis is great enough to cause physical morphological changes to the erection. Hence, over the years the fibrosis accumulate and one day suddenly you see a different erection.
26 year old
45-50 degree downward curve with an indentation on one side when erect.
Using RestoreX and Xiaflex injections
Taking coq10 with daily Cialis 5mg.

Benraycamp0

I agree, it doesn't make logical sense to me either with my limited knowledge.

To me, even if repetitive trauma accumulates scar tissue over time, then a man surely would see changes in his erection gradually, with each injury adding more scar tissue. But that's not how Peyronies Disease happens. Peyronies Disease tends to have a sudden onset, and progressive deformity even with no subsequent injury. So I'm not convinced by your explanation that repetitive trauma explains what Dr. Yafi is trying to say, or maybe I'm missing something?
26 years old. 20 degree upward curve with slight clockwise twist. Symptoms onset Dec 20.
Dr. Levine says it's not Peyronie's Disease but a slow healing wound. Saw him Mar 21 and May 21.
Traction (PMP) and supplements per Dr. Levine's recommendation.

Kobegianna

I can call back to two incidents that I'm sure cause my Peyronie's to express itself. When I was 14-15 I remember masturbating at lest 3 times a day. I'm guessing like most teenagers my hormones were through the roof! I would say I was very addicted to porn and masturbation. On one particular day I was so horny and loved the feeling of orgasm I though to myself why don't I keep going after I ejaculate even though it's sensitive?

So I tried it. Right after I came I was still alittle hard so I just kept going without stopping. Even though it was super sensitive I kept going. As I kept going my erections was starting to go down. But I forced it to get harder until I came again.

After that incident my penis felt alittle sore and different but I didn't think anything of it. But what I did notice the following days is that I wasn't getting morning wood. I also could not get as hard as before. I would say I got to like 90% as my original erection. I lost the ability to get spontaneous erections. Before I could get to full erection without any stimulation. But now I could only get to full erection by stimulation. Also what develop was serious pre mature ejaculation I  had no control. Even before I could get fully hard I could fee the ejacualtikn coming. I was able to still have sex because even though I came quickly I could always get hard for a second round or two pretty quickly. Also with alcohol I could last a little longer. So I was able to work around the premature ejaction issue.

However like 5 years ago when I was 30. I was mastubating while FaceTiming with a girl. I was drunk and I took Xanax. So while mastubating my girl told me I passed out. But that I still was trying to finish unconsciously. And then she said I passed out on my stomach. So what I'm guessing is I probably got a night that erection. But since I was so knocked out and passed out on my stomach the erection couldn't happen. Or I strained it. Whatever the case was the next day right shaft area was numb to the touch.

Again my erection quality went down. And I wasn't experiencing night time erections. I was still able to get hard manually but took more work and was not as strong. The numbers went away after 4-5 months but my erection quality and night time erectikns were never the same.

So that was 5 years again and here I am now. I believe especially the last 5 years was when I was doing micro trauma to my penis that I didn't know and it finally manifested into full blown Peyronie's today.
 
34 yrs Old, Healthy very active
Possibly injured penis or took too much Cialis
Symptoms starting January-February 2021
First dent seen April 4, 2021, painful erections