When having sex, how do you get over the fear of making things worse?

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MauvaisCoton

Hi everyone,

Thankfully I can still have sex and my curve isn't that bothersome. However, ever since I got diagnosed with Peyronie's in 2017, things were never the same again.

When I have sex, I often worry about doing more damage and making Peyronie's worse. I used to love rough sex, I still do but I'm genuinely scared and, most of the time, I don't want to try new things or positions. I can't seem to stop checking my penis to make sure it's still "normal" (or at least my new "normal"). If I somehow bend my penis a little during the intercourse, I worry about it for days after.
Of course, all of this had a huge impact on my libido and I'm not as easily aroused as I used to be. It clearly doesn't help my erections either.

Peyronie's being somewhat unpredictable, I often see it as a Sword of Damocles. But I don't want to live in fear anymore.

I'm seeing a therapist for my anxiety and I meditate regularly but I'd like to hear from actual Peyronie's survivors. Do you have any tips to overcome the fear and regain some of the confidence you had pre-Peyronie's? What has worked for you?
30. Congenital curvature upward. Diagnosed with Peyronies Disease in 2017. Curvature near the base of the shaft (approx. 45° to the left). Still painful sometimes. Mild ED since summer 2020. Anxious.
Currently using RestoreX (since 04/21) and L-citrulline.

GaussRifle

You should be thankful for where you are today being able to still have sex. I'm just a couple years younger to you and unable to have sex. To be honest, there is no way you can know that peyronies won't progress if you keep handling your penis roughly. Only sure shot way is to get an implant since that prevents formation of new plaques but given you are able to have sex with your current penis fine, that is not an option for you. There is a new study that just came out that states that even in the chronic stage peyronies inflammation remains active in a low lying state. Also, it's not just anybody with peyronies but anyone normal having rough sex is putting himself at an increased risk of peyronies. Sooner or later it will catch up, one day you might not be in the mood, erection  might not be 100% and you decide to have rough sex and any normal person could end up with peyronies. My advice would be to able to enjoy sex, there are ways to enjoy without being rough with your penis. Letting go of your penchant for rough sex is a very small price to pay to keep you functional and have sex throughout your life.
26 year old
45-50 degree downward curve with an indentation on one side when erect.
Using RestoreX and Xiaflex injections
Taking coq10 with daily Cialis 5mg.

diehardpatriot

Penis injury in late 2017. A lump formed at injury site that caused no deformity, just pain and a palpable lump. Pain is improving through proper rest and use, diet, and mindfulness. I am always learning and looking to share things that have helped.

MauvaisCoton

Quote from: GaussRifle on May 11, 2021, 02:29:54 PM
Also, it's not just anybody with peyronies but anyone normal having rough sex is putting himself at an increased risk of peyronies. Sooner or later it will catch up, one day you might not be in the mood, erection  might not be 100% and you decide to have rough sex and any normal person could end up with peyronies. My advice would be to able to enjoy sex, there are ways to enjoy without being rough with your penis. Letting go of your penchant for rough sex is a very small price to pay to keep you functional and have sex throughout your life.

Thanks for your answer. To be clear, I do not engage in rough sex anymore. But, even then, I almost consistently worry about Peyronie's. I'd like to be more present during sex and not be fearful or anxious. I can't let Peyronie's take over every moment of intimacy with my partner.

I am thankful for still being able to have sex though.
30. Congenital curvature upward. Diagnosed with Peyronies Disease in 2017. Curvature near the base of the shaft (approx. 45° to the left). Still painful sometimes. Mild ED since summer 2020. Anxious.
Currently using RestoreX (since 04/21) and L-citrulline.

Hawk

I would recommend you give up sex, so you don't injure yourself and end up not being able to have sex.

I am, of course pointing out the absurdity of the mindset we get in.  I have been there.  

I can see if you said, "I worry about injuring myself during masturbation."  You would be afraid of damaging your penis doing a lesser thing and not have it to do a thing of greater enjoyment and meaning.  To worry as you are doing the greater thing, however, makes little sense.  You will take reasonable care, avoid rough sex, and female on top (risky for every man).  If the day comes that you injure yourself or slowly develop Erectile Dysfunction, you will get an implant and keep going.  

The only alternative is to avoid sex now (or spoil it with worry, which might be worse) and save it so you can have 80-year-old sex.  If irony follows you like it does me; however, just as you turn 80, a truck will hit you and paralyze you.
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
Hawk - Updated 10/27/18 - Peyronies Society Forums

Winter

Blunt answer Hawk, but very necessary. (for me at least...)

By reading MauvaisCoton first post, I thought I was reading a post written by myself. Everything he wrote applies to me as well. Even the nature of his disease seems to be pretty similar to mine.
The difference is that my case started around July of 2020.

I was doing the same as him, afraid of having sex, avoiding it as much as possible. I already told on another post that I won't masturbate ever again, but even sex?
I am just so full of fear and insecurity that even very safe sex sounds dangerous. But what is the point of living this way? Why protecting so much an useless organ?
To me, the main issue is: there is no more "the good old days" kinda of life. This is the new reality. Acceptance is necessary to avoid wasting the remaining life you have with fear and nostalgia.
Speaking for myself, I am learning to be thankful of what I still got. I used to take things for granted. This nasty disease is teaching me how to be more grateful, stoic and rational.
It is not easy, but I am even learning to accept and forgive my moments of desperation, anger and denial.

Since I cannot control the destiny of this disease, I shall focus on the things I can manage. I will take my drugs, , stay healthy, try to remain sane, show retribution to my wife's support and try to enjoy life while things are peaceful.

Thanks for all the support folks. This forum has been amazing.  
41 yo, married. Onset on 07/20. Flare up on 07/21. Brand new flare up 01/23. Indentations and hourglass. It still hurts sometimes; No erectile dysfunction. Taking Pentox, Cialis, Supplements, trying diets, fasting, VED and manual traction.
God bless

diehardpatriot

Hawk, your response here is one of the best I've ever seen. Seems like You are getting more and more wise each year . I wish I was told something similar to what you just posted here a long time ago. I'd like to let you guys know in the past I went 7 weeks no sex no masturbstion and it really didn't do anything to reduce pain or just anything at all. In fact I think I remember my pain just getting worse at the time. I'd also like to add that Dr. TROST the inventor of restorex refers to erections as a kind of "internal traction" , he mentions this when talking about why he often prescribed his peyronies patients cialis or viagra . Like Hawk said, just be careful and obviously no marathon 4 hour sessions. I lived in fear for almost 2 years. I tripped out when I found out members like Lwillisjr and other older men kept on having sex during the early stages of their peyronies. Careful sex, but still. I now am behind the philosophy that gentle sex is if anything beneficial for the healing of any penis condition , besides acute injuries and after surgery or injections . Even then, after 3-8 weeks of rest, erections should not be feared. My 2 piece here.  Love the attitude winter.  
Penis injury in late 2017. A lump formed at injury site that caused no deformity, just pain and a palpable lump. Pain is improving through proper rest and use, diet, and mindfulness. I am always learning and looking to share things that have helped.

Hawk

Back before my implant, I had progressed to the point that maximum oral ED Meds along with L-Arginine would not give me a usable erection.  I remember considering BiMix or TriMix injections again, even though I knew that is what gave me Peyronies Disease.  It occurred to me I had two choices.

1. Take the shots, have great sex, and get worse Peyronies Disease until I could not have sex
2. Avoid the sex until I die

I realized that even knowing the shots would worsen my Peyronies Disease. It made no sense to avoid shots to save my penis - Save it for what??  Straight-line urination??  

Avoiding sex to save your penis is like avoiding eating to save your food.  There is no point in food if you are not going to eat.  Why save it if you are not going to use it for the only thing it is good for.

Fortunately, I found in my case the choice between injections and no intercourse was a false choice.  I had the option for an implant which far exceeded my hopes/
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
Hawk - Updated 10/27/18 - Peyronies Society Forums

diehardpatriot

Cheers to a happy ending Hawk . I agree, the results have to be worth the sacrifice when sacrifices are made. It's pretty proven that those injections are known to cause peyronies, which is even more surprising you made the choice to still have sex. Bold move, but I salute. Glad you found a better solution. To the brothers in this chat, know that it's not so cut and dry regarding you getting worse just by having gentle sex. Consider it "internal traction". Stay strong as friends and take care of your physical and mental health  
Penis injury in late 2017. A lump formed at injury site that caused no deformity, just pain and a palpable lump. Pain is improving through proper rest and use, diet, and mindfulness. I am always learning and looking to share things that have helped.

Winter

Quote from: Hawk on May 12, 2021, 11:28:50 PM
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I realized that even knowing the shots would worsen my Peyronies Disease. It made no sense to avoid shots to save my penis - Save it for what??  Straight-line urination??  
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I was laughing out loud here.  ;D
So true.
I think most of this fear comes out of trying to preserve what we still have, as if we knew a cure would be coming in very soon. (at least for me)
On the other hand, I've spent quite a good time here, reading old post, some even from more than 10 years ago. Lots of good folks hoping for cure. Some of them pretty sure that some solution would come in less than 10 years.
Then, here we are!
No cure, no definitive treatment and no promising medicine being tested. I am not a pessimistic person, but I don't wanna fall on that hope trap. I really admire the courage of guys that went for the path of the implant. It is not the case for me so far, (God be praised!) but I am preparing myself emotionally and psychologically in advance, to out stand the fear in case I have to get into that scenario.
Meanwhile, I am doing everything I can, from the most proven treatments to the most ludicrous (yes, I did turn off the WiFi of my home... I do accept criticism without replies).
But to cease my sex life? To become irrationally parallelized by fear? To incite some mental monsters to ruin my erection capability?
After almost an year going to bed with fear, afraid of waking up completely ruined, I think I am starting to relax a bit. I am gradually overcoming the irrational hope of changing the present by negotiating with the past. This is my new life and I have to learn to live the best I can with what I have.  Since there are no more new things I can do, I'll enjoy the time I still have.
Like Hawk said it, at any given time, a truck can hit you and paralyze you...

Thanks diehardpatriot! Not to hijack this topic, I do understand completely your point on the masturbation subject. What I take as a valuable lesson from our conversation is this important message of not succumbing to the irrational fear. Good message, brother.  
41 yo, married. Onset on 07/20. Flare up on 07/21. Brand new flare up 01/23. Indentations and hourglass. It still hurts sometimes; No erectile dysfunction. Taking Pentox, Cialis, Supplements, trying diets, fasting, VED and manual traction.
God bless

Andy_75

Hawk nailed it.

It's like buying a fantastic fitting jacket/blazer/shirt/sweater...whatever, having it pressed and dry cleaned but never wearing it because you do not want to "ruin" it.  My grandmother was like this, God Bless her soul.  She had so many nice things, beautiful European china etc, but she never used it, even on celebrations because she did not want to scratch it or risk it being chipped, dropped etc.

So it begs the question, what's the point?

I am as guilty as the next.  Since learning I have "what feels like a plaque and is likely mild peyronies" I have not had sex or masturbated, I am scared, worried that I will harm myself, make it worse.  It has been 5 months since I noticed the plaque.  No real deformity (knock on wood) but am waiting for the day that I wake up and notice the dreaded curve/hourglass etc.  I keep telling myself to just not touch it (besides showering and urinating) for a year and then if there is no deformity or bad deformity, maybe I will be one of the lucky ones to escape this but still, as time passes and I become more optimistic that I have not developed any major deformity, my anxiety remains sky high that it will eventually happen because I can feel that "lump" and the Urologist said it was in his opinion "likely mild peyronies".

I don't have any answers unfortunately and the internet is a mixed blessing.  On one hand it is great to be able to learn, research and connect with others.  On the other hand it is full of horror stories that leave you nervous, anxious and apprehensive.

All I know is that I discovered a lump on my shaft 5 months ago.  Cannot think of an injury except that I may have masturbated a little too vigorously and the Urologist I saw at 3 months said it felt like a plaque and said it is likely mild Peyronie's but that since I was at 3 months with no real deformity or symptoms such as pain/deformity, he feels I am likely in the clear in that regard.  

Yet I have searched and found isolated cases online where the curve and deformity onset has come during months 6-12 in some and am fearful that it will be me that will also experience this.  So I sit here, anxious and literally celibate out of fear that I will cause more damage if I masturbate or engage in sexual activity.  So for me, I will wait it out, no masturbation or sex for a year and see where I am at.  To be honest, once I got past around 3 months without masturbation, it is not missed too much, I have been following "no fap" and there are some seemingly benefits like increased focus on other things, overall energy etc.

I am not married, was common law with a woman for 10 years but we broke up prior to this last summer.

Again, I don't have the answers but I can definitely relate and in my case, I am just giving this a year, hoping the lump resolves/dissipates etc, and if not, I will probably eventually pursue a relationship but at the moment, where I am, we are still heavily locked down (pandemic), so I am really not missing much at this current moment in time.

I can't even get an answer out of a Urologist as to whether or not it is Peyronies if there is a lump but no pronounced curve/deformity.  Some say any lump is fibrosis and Peyronies while others say that it is only Peyronies if there is pronounced curve/deformity from the fibrosis.

God speed to all.  This is a terrible affliction, not only physically but mentally, it really messes with your confidence and overall psychology imho.
Age: 40
- Symptoms: 2 Bumps on shaft (1 top/1 bottom) Jan 2021
- No pain/minor dorsal curve/subtle dent across width of shaft creates pliable erection with weak hinge like effect/mid shaft).

Andy_75

Just as a final note, my situation kind of reminds me of that situation in the movie "Fight Club" when the Brad Pitt character grabs the store clerk who wants to be a Doctor or something and holds a gun to his head and asks him why he is not in school and tells him that if he is not studying and on his way to reach his true ambitions/potential in a month or so he will come back and kill him as the man sits pleading for his life.  

Brad Pitt's character then lets him go and says something to the tune of, "tomorrow morning will be the best day of that man's life when he wakes up alive".  The movie was something like that.  So if anything, this, along with other recent life lessons has and is teaching me to be more appreciative of what I do still have and to try and stop focusing/worrying on what I do not or possibly will not have (ie. a sex life).  In other words, things can always be worse and as humans, most of us learn to adapt and within 5 years, we are carrying on with life and while we may be carrying on with an affliction or condition that still kind of sucks, for lack of a better term –in a lot of cases, it doesn't really still suck or at the very least, it sucks a lot less as we learn to live with it.

EDIT: Found the scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdwyAcJ8j2U
Age: 40
- Symptoms: 2 Bumps on shaft (1 top/1 bottom) Jan 2021
- No pain/minor dorsal curve/subtle dent across width of shaft creates pliable erection with weak hinge like effect/mid shaft).

Hawk

Good scene, I never saw it before.  :D

In reference to your comment about adjusting,  lottery winners and those paralyzed in accidents return to their original level of happiness within 3years according to the Yale's free course on the psychology of wellbeing. https://www.coursera.org/learn/the-science-of-well-being?fbclid=IwAR2eJ4IUorZSpVc5mh4ThQwygogR9kVFo4MUWZuByo3yoMfM7rfu0AwaElQ

It makes the point that our happiness is much more about what we do than it is about circumstances that happen to us.
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
Hawk - Updated 10/27/18 - Peyronies Society Forums

GaussRifle

Andy_75 your post about trying to accept this condition and be happy thinking we could have had it worse doesn't resonate with me ( it made me livid actually, I went for a stroll to cool my head before writing this ... lol) Human beings are social beings, I have friends I can hang out with now, as I age and they get married , they won't be there for me busy with spouses and kids. No usable penis means no girlfriend / wife , imagine the happiness I will lose in life. It is not just sex I will be losing out on, it is a partner to go watch movies with on the weekend, someone who asks you how your day was when you get home, someone who becomes part of your everyday happiness and grief, someone you share a deep bond with, someone to share secrets with, someone to look forward to go on vacations with. You miss out on having your own family, having your own kids , being a father, being a grandfather.  Lol, that is your entire life, you miss out on life. I would rather be a  person with terminal cancer knowing I only have a few months left knowing I am surrounded by my family and loved ones, than live my entire life ( I wouldn't even call it life ) as a lonely man.

And hawk is talking about lottery winners returning to their original levels of happiness. You can't compare apples with oranges. If it really takes 3 years to adjust and be happy again, why did Hawk and many other forum members spend more than 3 years of their lives looking for a solution.... and decide to go for a solution, he should gave accepted no sex at his age.... and been happy again in  3 years. It totally makes no sense. You guys only speak from your perspective as married people who have lived their life , had a wife or can date and experience love and intimacy. It is one thing to accept being sexless when you are 60 knowing you have lived life than be my age  just starting out as an adult at 26 with only loneliness in their future.  No one to share my accomplishments, happiness, sadness, problems with.

I pray to god everyday to either fix me or get me buried 6 feet under. And I haven't even scratched the surface of having a libido of a 26 year old and wanting to F~@<. That's a whole different discussion to be had.  Before either of you gets defensive and starts counter arguing, PAUSE for a minute, close your eyes and imagine yourself in my shoes as a young 26 year old starting life and living a very lonely life.  
26 year old
45-50 degree downward curve with an indentation on one side when erect.
Using RestoreX and Xiaflex injections
Taking coq10 with daily Cialis 5mg.

Hawk

GaussRifle,

As a reminder, this board is for "A place to discuss the psychological challenges and their positive solutions... A place to seek help and offer help".

I searched for any attempt to help MauvaisCoton or anyone else in your post.  I tried to identify any attempt to find a positive solution for yourself.  I found no hint of either, so I searched again from every possible angle.

Was your post about seeking help?  I guess the best way of assessing that is to ask how Yale's free course on the "Psychology of Wellbeing - Happiness" is going.  How many lessons have you completed so far?  I am also interested in feedback on which 3 activities you choose to try as your homework assignment and how they went.

Possibly you are tied up at the moment using some of the other resources, such as the great free meditation sight in our resource section at the top of this board.

The only alternative is that you are doing nothing to improve your happiness and are mystified as to why there is such a miserable contrast between you and others.  Maybe you are angry that the happiness fairy has not magically visited you as expected.  Or, did you think that possibly complaining one more time and telling yourself how hopeless your life is would be the magic bullet that would bring happiness?  

A careful 2nd read revealed my error.  You could not have been more clear.  The very fact that others are not as miserable as you not only annoys you but in your own words, "it made me livid actually, I went for a stroll to cool my head."

So your post was not about seeking help with your psychological outlook or giving help to others but rather angrily striking out at those more successful than you at finding solutions.  Maybe you could preach your gospel of how life singed you out unfairly and gain some converts to the misery that you wallow in.  THEN, because "misery seeks company" you could feel a little better.  Unfortunately, that is NOT the purpose of this board, so you can feel free to post here again when you are seeking a solution or seeking to help others.
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
Hawk - Updated 10/27/18 - Peyronies Society Forums

Andy_75

GausRifle,

I realize everything is relative and you assumed I am some old married man with a supportive wife which I am not.  I am middle aged and currently single after being common law for 10 years.

In any case, I get it.  Yes, it's harder for a younger guy to accept or go through than someone 20 or 40 years older than him but what are the choices?  Be miserable and let it define you or try to move forward with life and find a new purpose or meaning.  Have you looked into therapy?  Thought about talking to your Doctor in regards to an antidepressant to help?  I don't have the answers but out of all the things life could throw at you, there could be worse circumstances is all I was getting at.  Being in a wheelchair, diagnosed with ALS, and the list goes on.

It was not my intent to make you angry but to just vent myself and try to somehow switch or fix my mind state and outlook.  Do everything you can treatment wise, short of that, I guess it is either wallow in misery or try to make the best out of life and focus on what you do have.  That goes for everyone on this board I suppose.

Yeah, it completely sucks for us, especially someone who is younger such as yourself but until you exhaust all treatments your only alternative is to accept and try to keep moving forward or look at surgical options.

I sincerely hope the best for you and that your condition resolves and if it doesn't, that you/we, are eventually able to accept things and move forward.

This has to be one of the toughest things for any man to deal with, especially a young man so you have my sincere empathy.

Best,
Age: 40
- Symptoms: 2 Bumps on shaft (1 top/1 bottom) Jan 2021
- No pain/minor dorsal curve/subtle dent across width of shaft creates pliable erection with weak hinge like effect/mid shaft).

Winter

Yes, this past weekend was very difficult for me. I had a new flare up that ended up giving me a more pronounced hourglass effect on my penis while erect.
A few days ago, I realized that I wasn't getting as many night and morning erections as before. Last Thursday, I started to feel my penis a little more dense, as if it were "rubberized" while soft.

Then it started to hurt a little while semi erect. It took me longer to achieve a full erection and I realized that it did not fill the glans as before. It was very scary!Right now that I was coming to terms with my situation. Crap!
It messed up my head badly. I was totally unable to achieve any erection due to fear. Friday night at bed, thinking about it, I was sweating a lot and was very nervous. My wife noticed and talked to me about it. She already knew that I had this disease, but I never told her about all the scenarios. We talked all night about it and it was amazing! I felt so much better opening up to her. Sharing my fears and hopes, as well as several of my conversations on this forum. Also what could happen and the possibility of surgery. It was a very emotional moment for us. We cried, talked and hugged a lot.

To put into a context, earlier this year, we were trying to have a baby, but the pregnancy ended in the second month. We were planning to start trying again this month. But just right now my illness decided to reappear. I felt terrible. She was also not happy, but she was much more pragmatic and objective.
She said: "If you don't heal on your own, we will have surgery. If it still doesn't work, go for the implant. You have all my support and we are not going to succumb to fear and lamentation ". What a strong and wonderful woman! She never complained about the lack of sex during my rest period, nor did she blame me for possibly delaying our parenthood plans.

This whole situation taught me a lesson: we have to deal with the reality of things, not with expectations. When we live in the hope that things are not as they are, it only leads us to plunge into frustration, despair and desolation. We cannot change the past, only the future, but only by taking action in the present.
Realizing all this, I was able to relax a little. It helped me to get full erections again. Yes, my cock is a little thinner near the glans, but it is functional again. It was my problematic psychology that was killing my erections, not the flare up.

I will do my best and let God decide what will happen to my life. But I will take action if necessary. I will not waste my life living in mourning.
41 yo, married. Onset on 07/20. Flare up on 07/21. Brand new flare up 01/23. Indentations and hourglass. It still hurts sometimes; No erectile dysfunction. Taking Pentox, Cialis, Supplements, trying diets, fasting, VED and manual traction.
God bless

Hawk

I am surprised you have not shared the information on the forum etc., with her until now.  Needless to say, it was a wise move.  It is the type of thing that determines how well a couple navigates this.  You are a fortunate man.

I understand that standard vigorous intercourse might be an issue.  However, if pregnancy is the goal, I would think getting pregnant would be much less of an issue. If you are well lubricated, and she is relatively still you can get to the verge of climax right before penetration. Working together, I am sure you can make this work.

Best wishes.
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
Hawk - Updated 10/27/18 - Peyronies Society Forums

Winter

Thanks for the best wishes.
Yeah, I didn't have shared all the information about the disease with her, because I didn't want to stress her too much about it. I was always doing my best by minimizing things. She knew that I was visiting some forum, but I haven't told her the whole picture. At the end, she was much stronger and understanding that I ever hoped. I was blaming myself and being all emotional, but she came out to be really mature, decisive and supportive. I am really a fortunate man, indeed.
As usual, we men, can be naive and simplistic on understanding woman.
God bless
41 yo, married. Onset on 07/20. Flare up on 07/21. Brand new flare up 01/23. Indentations and hourglass. It still hurts sometimes; No erectile dysfunction. Taking Pentox, Cialis, Supplements, trying diets, fasting, VED and manual traction.
God bless

Mikel7

Winter it sounds like you have an understanding awesome wife. Sharing your heart is what women want. Most guys are macho and wouldn't think of divulging info like our penis problems to a woman.  You will get through this.  You will have chidren when you least expect it.  Life wil continue for you.  You will have an enjoyable life because you do have someone to talk to and experience things together.  Sex can be even better because of the adventures of discovering new ways to pleasure your partner.  
Lump 4/2020, age 62 , Dr Levine 6-26-20, Dors Curve 11/2020, Peyronies
Vit E400mg, COQ10, Heat Therapy, Penimaster, Pentox, Cialis, Restorex
SNHL 7/2020 - Stopped all Meds because ototoxicity  Heat/traction/VED are working. CPPS Diagnosis - Stable :)

Winter

Thanks Mike. May God hear your words.
I think things are calming down with the little guy, thankfully.
As always you are very kind and thoughtful. I totally agree with you, that macho attitude is just silly and generally unproductive. If you have a partner who you loves and cares, please, open up yourself and share your fears and hopes. By doing this you strengthen the bond between the couple. It is always terrible to any relationship to become all gloomy and sullen. It is not your partner's fault. Take good care of yourself but also be kind and considerate to them. It can save your sanity and, possibly, your happiness.
41 yo, married. Onset on 07/20. Flare up on 07/21. Brand new flare up 01/23. Indentations and hourglass. It still hurts sometimes; No erectile dysfunction. Taking Pentox, Cialis, Supplements, trying diets, fasting, VED and manual traction.
God bless