traction duration

[jw1441]

From reading I gather that most recommendations are for about 6 hours traction per day.  Besides the obvious inconvenience is there any downside for longer traction eg 10 hours per day?

thank you

[jw1441]

As introduction

I am a 38 year old male.  Noticed dent lateral aspect of penis approximately 1 month prior.  I didn't think much of it for a couple weeks, then put 2 and 2 together -Peyronie's.  I called a general urologist friend who agreed, but I haven't been examined.  As an aside I am in medical field (radiologist). I have about 10-15 degree curve at this time.

I read through some of the posts and started L-arginine and pentox. Got Andropenis last week and have been using 4-6 hrs per day.  I have an appt to see a urologist in one week with plan to ask for referral to Levine.

Any comments or criticism is appreciated.

[jw1441]

 has anyone looked at doctors outside of the US?

eg the Sava Perovic Foundation

[Ben]

10 hours a day is not realistic, 6 hours either. Within less than one month you'll start to have a sore spot due to the contact between the silicon band and your penis.
So using the device more than 4 hours per day will make that spot really sore and you'll have to take days to heal properly.

Also past 4 hours the penis seems to shrink due to fatigue and tends to wears off the device, you'll have to decrease lenght to maintain a good grip, but that's not very useful by the way.

Aim for long term use of andropenis. I had quite improvement with that therapy, don't forget to take 2 days a week to heal properly. I wish you'll stay motivated on the long run because this treatment implies a lot of dedication.

Hope you'll find satisfaction with that treatment because peyronie's symptoms are tough to deal with, physically and emotionnaly.  

[taylorj]

With all due respect to the minimalist replies of some of the other gentleman: nonsense. With the RIGHT interface between either comfort strap or noose, I wear my penis extender from a minimum of 8 hours a day up to 12 or more. PLEASE read my entire post below, posted previously. I put the critical parts in BOLD for this post. It discourages me that so many men put up with these subpar interfaces shipped with the extenders.

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I have the KR Extender with the noose sold by Autoextender.com. Later I bought the JES Extender with the so-called comfort strap. They are both useful and both provide somewhat different stretching properties & experiences. I alternate them regularly.

The KR Extender is made with the same quality as the early JES with noose. The seller provides a high quality comfort foam tube that fits over the silicone noose that, for me, prevents my penis head from being strangled and I can wear it whatever length of time I want from getting up until bedtime. It's made of very dense foam, not the light, squishy foam that comes with some products. Oh, now and then I misposition it enough that I get a pinching sensation and have to cut that day's session short, but generally it's a winner. I found that the noose seems to stretch the penis more towards the top where the noose is, and less in the middle and bottom sections.

BUT THERE'S A PROBLEM AND IT'S NOT A LITTLE ONE: TRY TO GET HIM TO SEE YOU A REPLACEMENT FOAM COVER FOR THE NOOSE. He doesn't offer it on his site and he did not answer my query about providing one. He provides two of them and once they wear out (about a year for each) you're on your own. More on this below.

The JES Extender with the comfort strap gets a good grip on about half an inch just under the penis head and therefore stretches the penis better toward the middle and bottom, and not as much at the top. The comfort of this strap and effectiveness with which it grips the penis depends almost entirely on the foam interface--the foam piece which fits over the penis and lies just underneath the strap. In my opinion, this is the BIG failing of these straps. The JES came with some flimsy, what do they call it?--life foam? which tore up in about two weeks. Fortunately--AND HERE'S THE BIG USEFUL TIP-- the KR Extender Gold came with a number of silicone pressure tubes ("Autosleeve") to roll over the penis and hold a molded steel weight at the end. (Not sure of their effectiveness at all but they're a swell fetish item.) I cut a 1/2 inch section of one of the blue one's with a matte knife (nice clear straight cut) and used it to replace the cheap foam product and guess what? IT WORKS ABOUT 10 TIMES BETTER! The silicone has more surface tension, gripping both the penis and the strap well, and wears all day without the chafing that the rough surfaced foam inflicted. It's a superior substitute.  Caveat: On his site, Autoextender says it will only sell the silicone tubes as a replacement item to existing customer.  So my recommendation is, get whichever KR Extender package includes the silicone tubes, purchase the comfort strap headpiece with strap at Ebay (they're selling it for around $40 there for people who have the noose-type product) and VOILA! you're set.

Not so easy is replacing the noose foam cover with something that works. BIG COMPLAINT AHEAD: I purchased an expensive substitute product from the X-4 site and got a cheap foam product that collapses within a couple of hours: Head choking time and mucho pain. I tried their comfort strap product as well and it's inferior too, though not much different than the foam interface that JES provided.

These guys need to get their act together on suitable replacement foam products. Otherwise I'm left believing they just see their customers as marks to be ripped off. Meanwhile, the search for a suitable foam cover for my extender noose goes on.

[chefcasey]

Taylorj:

So you are seeing an improvement in the hourglass from using the comfort strap, but not the noose?  I have my problems with both.  In my opinion, the noose is much easier to strap yourself into, although I cannot wear it as long, maybe only 4-5 hours max before the head starts to get red and sore.

I like that the comfort strap spreads the pressure across a much wider area than the noose.  I could wear it for 10 hours a day if I wanted to with no problem. The problem I have with it is that I cannot tell if I'm getting a stretch in the top 1/3 of the penis because I cannot see it with the strap and foam covering it, also sometimes I feel the strap presses the penis against the backing plate in an unnatural way.

Do you wear the device in the up or down position?

[LWillisjr]

The directions that came with the Fastsize were adament about taking the device off every 2 hours for a 15 minute break. This is to allow blood flow to return to the glans. So I assume some you who are wearing the device for hours at a time are taking these regular breaks??

[chefcasey]

lwillisjr:

Yes, I mean with the breaks included, I still find it difficult to wear it with the noose for more than 5 hours a day.  Even with rest periods the corona  can still get rather raw.  With the comfort strap I don't have that issue because it spreads the pull throughout the last quarter of the penis equally, so theoretically, I could wear it like that all day, even though I don't have the time.  

[jw1441]

Has anyone bruised their urethra using traction?  This tip of my penis is sore and hurts a bit with urination.  I had recent vigorous physical exam from a urologist including pinching the head and stretching. Sonogram same day.  The pain started day after exam.

I don't know whether to attribute soreness to traction device or the physical exam.

[fubar]

Jw1441

Any device can cause soreness and the doctor's pinching could also. I would stay away from your device until your pain subsides.You do not want to cause more injury.take it slow and easy.Lessen the traction on the device if it is pulling to much and makes you uncomfortable.

Good luck! Fubar

[jw1441]

For about 6 weeks I had not trouble with traction.

In the past couple weeks I have noticed burining with urination and tender urethra after traction.  If I stop traction for a few days it goes away.  I took some antibiotics empirically for uti.

Has anyone had a mechanical urethritis caused by traction?

[jw1441]

Does anyone believe that traction or VED work in a prophylactic manner ie PREVENT worsening curvature/length loss?

[LWillisjr]

I think most all of us on the forum believe that traction and/or VED usage will help prevent curvature and loss of length.

[fubar]

If anything you are helping to promote stretch, cialis,ved or erection.Best is an erection I think because it is natural along with the ved that is giving you a negative stretch but expanding you in all directions.Just keep pushing on. In a safe manner don't over do it.

A stetch is a stretch but strangling or cutting of circulation bad.

Fubar

[Scorpiries]

hey guys.. i read from andropenis booklet, the duration should be 8-9 hours a day to improve curve/bending... and i'm not sure if i can complete 8 hours a day.. do u guys think 4 hours is enough? and for how many months should i use the device if i just take the treatment only for 4 hours daily?

[fubar]

Scorpions

Start out slowly if you feel pain stop.Try it for a couple of hours first take a break then  repeat.I was stretching up to eight hours in a couple of days.

Start with a mild stretch meaning don't try stretch to maximum potential or beyond what is comfortable.

Fubar

[Gap]

I don't have any pain, just a severe bend and confirmed calcified plaque. Currently I'm using VED and Penty.  Should I try traction?  

[dioporcolorisolvo]

I don't have any pain, just a severe bend and confirmed calcified plaque. Currently I'm using VED and Penty.  Should I try traction?

If you have calcified plaque traction will be not useful for curvature.
Maybe you can obtain 1 cm in lenght after 9-10 month of daily application.

[Gap]

Yeah, I guess I'll pass. I just want the curvature reduced, so that doesn't sound like the solution for me. Thank you.  

[fubar]

So how will you reduce curvature?

[Gap]

Surgery? If I'm uinderstanding correctly, than there is very little that can be done for me otherwise because of the calcification.  

[newguy]

Surgery? If I'm uinderstanding correctly, than there is very little that can be done for me otherwise because of the calcification.

How long have you been on pentox for, and has it helped reduce calcification? Also, what is your dosage? It may be the case that if calcification is reduced you will see greater benefits from these other treatments (ved, traction). Pentox is known to be very good at reducing calcification, so in your shoes I think i'd stick with it for longer and talk with a urologist about upping the dosage if you're currently on, say 2 a day.

[hunchback]

how do these threads get so off topic?

i have a traction device and have been trying to use it with long term in mind.

according to the packaging i can wear it conveniently under my clothing...what a joke. they show pictures of people from africa with rings in their lips and stretched earlobes. i understand the concept, however it isn't possible to wear that thing in public. as it is the pentox at first made me feel like an adolescent with spontaneous erections which was bad enough.

i have tried to wear my traction device at the very least 12 hours per week with the only hope in mind rather than results. my urologist has me on the shotgun approach with vitamins, pentox, verapamil cream (from a legitimate source), and the device.

maybe i should start wearing a kilt to work

[fubar]

Hang in there it can be tough and a pain in the but.Try to stay motivated try wearing loose fitting cloths.Yes sometimes you need to take a break or make an adjustment.Mine has only come apart once while working outside.I managed to keep it concealed.It is worth the risk to me as my penis has much more elasticity than at onset of this disease.At least things look much more natural.

Fubar

[Rockout]

how do these threads get so off topic?

i have a traction device and have been trying to use it with long term in mind.

according to the packaging i can wear it conveniently under my clothing...what a joke. they show pictures of people from africa with rings in their lips and stretched earlobes. i understand the concept, however it isn't possible to wear that thing in public. as it is the pentox at first made me feel like an adolescent with spontaneous erections which was bad enough.

i have tried to wear my traction device at the very least 12 hours per week with the only hope in mind rather than results. my urologist has me on the shotgun approach with vitamins, pentox, verapamil cream (from a legitimate source), and the device.

maybe i should start wearing a kilt to work

I am beginning my 21st day on the AndroPenis system. I wear it to work, it is a hassle but I work a desk job and wear it under loose fitting dress slacks so I can get away with it.

The first 15 days is called the adaptive phase and I logged 84.1 hours out of the prescribed 85 hours.
The fist month and beyond is called the evolution phase and I am tracking perfectly at 9 hours per day - I try  to do four sessions of 2.25 hours each. I have no pain to speak of doing this. It is a hassle to do that much time though.

I take 3x400 Pentox, 2 x 1000 L'Arginine and 2 x 100mg Ubiquinol daily and as well as the three cylinder VED protocol.

My question is: Do I really need to do nine hours a day or would six or seven be sufficient? I posted the same question here but have not got any replies:
https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,2008.0.html

[dioporcolorisolvo]

how do these threads get so off topic?

i have a traction device and have been trying to use it with long term in mind.

according to the packaging i can wear it conveniently under my clothing...what a joke. they show pictures of people from africa with rings in their lips and stretched earlobes. i understand the concept, however it isn't possible to wear that thing in public. as it is the pentox at first made me feel like an adolescent with spontaneous erections which was bad enough.

i have tried to wear my traction device at the very least 12 hours per week with the only hope in mind rather than results. my urologist has me on the shotgun approach with vitamins, pentox, verapamil cream (from a legitimate source), and the device.

maybe i should start wearing a kilt to work

I am beginning my 21st day on the AndroPenis system. I wear it to work, it is a hassle but I work a desk job and wear it under loose fitting dress slacks so I can get away with it.

The first 15 days is called the adaptive phase and I logged 84.1 hours out of the prescribed 85 hours.
The fist month and beyond is called the evolution phase and I am tracking perfectly at 9 hours per day - I try  to do four sessions of 2.25 hours each. I have no pain to speak of doing this. It is a hassle to do that much time though.

I take 3x400 Pentox, 2 x 1000 L'Arginine and 2 x 100mg Ubiquinol daily and as well as the three cylinder VED protocol.

My question is: Do I really need to do nine hours a day or would six or seven be sufficient? I posted the same question here but have not got any replies:
https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,2008.0.html

I think 6-7 hours daily are sufficient.

[Old Man]

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[dioporcolorisolvo]

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[Rockout]

I think 6-7 hours daily are sufficient.

Thanks. Do you base that on your own personal experience or something you have heard/read somewhere else?

[fubar]

My,  own personal.experience!

[dioporcolorisolvo]

I think 6-7 hours daily are sufficient.

Thanks. Do you base that on your own personal experience or something you have heard/read somewhere else?

my experience