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Intro & question
« on: April 13, 2021, 01:46:57 AM »

Hello!

First of all, thanks for running this forum. I think you are making an extremely valuable contribution to those affected. Keep it on!

I am Max, 35 yrs old from France. I always had a curve to my erect penis (about 20 degrees to the right). About 6 months ago, I went to the doctor due to very mild Erectile Dysfunction - when he did a doppler ultrasound he spotted 2,5 millimetres of plaque on the right side. According to the doctor he would not outright say that I have Peyronie's, but given the plaque, I would assume so.

I have thus started reading through the survival guide here - thank you, it is very helpful! 

I do have a minor (and perhaps urgent) question:

Yesterday I had sex with my new partner with whom I have been together for half a year. For the first time, we did not use a condom. I tried to thrust 2-3 times without success; I felt there was not enough wetness; also my erection may have been at about 80%, not at 100%. So I took a condom and I could enter her vagina perfectly. At her request I then removed the condom and could also easily enter without it.

Now, after the sex yesterday night, I felt a slight (!) burning sensation on the tip of my penis/glans, i.e. at the end of my urethra ("pee hole"). As I said, it is a very slight burning sensation, like a slight prickling. The rest of my glans and the cavernous body do not hurt at all. The feeling is the same in flaccid and erect state. The only moment I recalled is that my frenulum was "pulled down" stronger than usual when I trusted whilst having sex. I should also add that I do have a frenulum breve.

I am now very concerned that I may have added another micro-trauma to the penis which could worsen my curvature - and so I do have a question: If there really was a new injury, would a doctor NOW be possible to spot that new injury (i.e. some abnormal changes) using doppler ultrasound? That is, would he be able to see some signs of internal bleeding or signs of bruising on the doppler ultrasound indicating a *potential* future development of new scar tissue? Or do I have for months now until it is possible to rule out a new injury?

I am extremely worried now and will appreciate any comments. Thank you, once again, for your support. 
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Re: Intro & question
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2021, 06:19:21 AM »

Welcome to the forum mh016!  It sounds like you have read the survival guide ---> https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,3180.msg44057.html#msg44057 .  New members should also fill out their profile and signature line ----> https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,10819.0.html . You will get more help and responses from other members if you do. It sounds like you have always had a slight curve to your penis .  Now after sex you have stinging pain at your urethra?  You may just have just some slight irritation from the condom and vigorous sex. When you urinate does it burn?  It could also be a UTI.  If things don't improve you should probably have it checked out.  Keep reading the posts here and educating yourself on the nature of peyronies. Don't let your mind play tricks on you about this.  :)  Mike
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Re: Intro & question
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2021, 08:56:14 AM »

Thank you Mike!

Just to clarify: I first did not use a condom and realized some pain while trying to enter (too much friction). My fear is that now that I have the slight burning sensation on my tip (glans) that all this sex yesterday may have caused some microtrauma.

If there is such a trauma, would a doctor be able to see this over the next days via penile doppler, i.e. would he be able to spot some change in the penile tissue? Or would such a trauma only become visible via Doppler a few months from now?

I am asking because I am considering going to the urologist to have it checked. I am very concerned now. My only hope is that nothing majorly happened as my burning is on my glans, not the corpus cavernosum.
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Re: Intro & question
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2021, 09:49:04 AM »

Hello MH.  Welcome to the forum.

The short, simple answer is that Peyronies Disease or plaque do NOT affect the glands themselves. Mike's alternative explanations are far more likely to be correct, or it is something else other than Peyronies Disease.

Your one small plaque is certainly not proof of Peyronies Disease.  It could be an old actual injury with a scar and could be an injury almost any time from soon before birth to the time you first noticed the curve. Maybe even after noticing a curve.  That plaque alone does not tell you much.  Remember, a scar at an injury site is NOT Peyronies Disease.  It is normal healing.

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Re: Intro & question
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2021, 12:14:03 PM »

Thank you, Hawk, for the clarification.

I hope it's ok for me to ask another question: Suppose one occurs some micro-injury during sex that would lead to Peyronie's. Would it be possible to see some kind of tissue change/anomalie in the days after the damage (=microtrauma) has been made on an a penile ultrasound (doppler)? I am thinking of visiting the doctor this week to check if I received a microtrauma last night.
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Re: Intro & question
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2021, 12:32:38 PM »

We have no limit on questions here. 

I am not sure how long it would take for plaque to start forming and showing on an ultrasound.  I have read that up to 30% of plaques are missed on ultrasound.  That number might have been without an erect ultrasound.  I cannot remember but the well-known Dr. Levine mentioned that number.

I think the bigger question is what would you do differently with the information provided by such a scan?  I think the answer is almost nothing.  Rushing to get a premature scan with almost no symptoms pointing to Peyronies Disease seems to be very impractical.  I would follow the recommendations in the Peyronies Survival Guide and relax and focus on some aspect of your life or relationships that you can improve.  Stress relief is your best friend at this point.
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Re: Intro & question
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2021, 01:27:15 AM »

Hi again!

I just wanted to update that my pain in and around the "pee hole", both flaccid and erect, is still present. I had the doc check it for UTI, came back negative.

I now read in Dr Levine's book that it is most common for Peyronies Disease pain to feel it in the glans -- which is where I feel pain, too. Thus, I am now extremely worried that it is Peyronie's Disease pain that I have.

As I said, it is a burning, itchy feeling at the tip of the glans. When erect, there is also a feeling on tension.

If it is inflammatory pain due to Peyronies Disease, is it normal to feel it IMMEDIATELY after sex in the form of burning sensation on the tip of the penis?

I appreciate any comment.
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Re: Intro & question
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2021, 09:30:50 AM »

No, it is NOT!.  I do NOT believe this is Peyronies Disease, and I have read most posts here for 16 years plus, of course, had Peyronies Disease myself.  What you describe sounds far more like a urinary tract infection or some other problem.  Dr. Levine's publisher sent a copy of his book to me to write a review when it first came out.  I am not sure I still have it, but I do not remember him saying most Peyronies Disease pain is in the glans.  I cannot even believe he said that because that is false.  BUT, even if he did say that, he certainly did NOT mean at the tip of the penis at your "pee hole" at the tip of your urethra.

You are wasting time worrying too much about Peyronies Disease rather than going to a doctor to find out what is going on and fixing it.

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Re: Intro & question
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2021, 11:33:08 AM »

Pain at the tip of the urethra is usually some sensitive reaction. Like when you are in the shower and get any shampoo or soap in the entrance to the urethra. Inserting yourself 'dry' would cause the urethra to open some I believe. Think of pulling back on the sides of the glans. I know a guy who had a similar issue and come to find out his partner was using some douche or cleansing liquid earlier in the day to make sure she was clean. Many women are concerned about odors or appearance. She she could be using something that is an irritant to you.

Completely agree with Hawk......  is NOT Peyronies disease.
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Re: Intro & question
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2021, 02:29:43 AM »

Hawk,

first of all, I am sorry that I cross-posted. I think I just panicked.

Regarding Dr Levine's book, I was referring to page 17 which says: Peyronie's disease typically develops in two stages: acute and stable. ... The pain may be felt anywhere within the penis, but is often felt in the head, or glans, of the penis..

Your conjecture sounds plausible that it is a different pain than mine, which I feel right on the tip / urethra. Doctors checked for fungal disease or anything else but couldn't find anything. How could they detect a UTI?

In any case...I really felt the itchy, burning sensation IMMEDIATELY after sex...in case it's Peyronie's, would one feel the inflammatory pain really immediately after intercourse or "the next morning" since the scarring process would need to develop first?

I hope that "immediate pain" after sex speaks more to the notion that it is some irritation on the glans skin...

Thank you!

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Re: Intro & question
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2021, 08:57:35 AM »

MH, a urine speciman cultured for 24-36 hours should detect any urinary tract infection.  As LWilliasJr pointed out, however, all urethra irritations are not infections.  The mucus membrane inside of your urethra is very sensitive to products, chemicals, or micro-abrasions. 

MN, the introductory board is just for introductions.  Each new member gets one topic here with no more than ten replies.  Then it is time to move to the other appropriate boards on the forum that best match your topic.  As such, this topic is locked.  Please continue to post and good luck at getting to the bottom of your issues.
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