what is the point of reduction rings? and what do you think about this ved that

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this_life

..that has been prescribed and sent to me by my insurance?(finishing that title)

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Primusmed-Medical-penis-Erection-Product/dp/B00I075Y24


this is the one i got. i have some questions on the usage that i cannot derive from the description leaflet.


this ved comes with

-a pump, electrial, no manual pump.

-3 constriction rings which are for keeping in blood flow in case of venous leak(i don t use them as my goal is to improve indentation and curve and not get an erection for sex)

the rings come in 3 sizes however i think even the largest one is criminally tight and i can not imagine putting that on my penis without severely injuring myself


and it comes with 2 "reduction rings", one large one smaller and they are supposed to get put into each other and then into the ved. you then put your penis in the ved through the rings

and that is where i have questions

why do i need this reduction ring?

Reduction Ring Large for Erectile Dysfunction Pump

this is the one i am talking about. it is supposed to be put at the base of the pump and you insert the penis not directly into the pump but in said ring. but why?
diagnosed in early 2020
shortening and indentation with dorso-lateral curvature
mild to medium ED. tried cialis and ved without any benefits, even with injury from ved

Nolte94

The cylinder of the VED has to fit really good, so maybe you need a reduction ring to reduce the gap between your penis and the cylinder. If the cylinder is to big, your skin of the scrotum can be sucked in the cylinder.
26 years old, first symptoms since August 2020, 45° bend to the left, hinge effect and pain at the beginning
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this_life

but my flacid penis does not even fit into the ring because it is too narrow. onthe other hand without it, my scrotum skin does indeed get sucked into the ved. i have not been able to induce anything close to an erection in the ved
diagnosed in early 2020
shortening and indentation with dorso-lateral curvature
mild to medium ED. tried cialis and ved without any benefits, even with injury from ved

Hawk

I am not sure of that pump but my thought is the same as Nolte's post.

We recommend against an electric pump.  I wish you would have asked questions before you made your purchase.  You can make it work but you have to be VERY careful not to over pump or pump too fast.
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
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Nolte94

BEFORE you buy a VED, you have to check, if the cylinder has the correct size for your penis. I only know my own device, that's why I can't give you a concrete answer. Mine comes with 2 reduction rings, but I need just one. Maybe you should read the manual again to understsnd, how the device works or look for another size of the reduction ring or (last option) contact the producer/merchant.
26 years old, first symptoms since August 2020, 45° bend to the left, hinge effect and pain at the beginning
‐---
Daily Tadalafil
Traction with PMP
VED with one cylinder
Acetyl-L-Carnitine, Tensiologes, Coq10 and healthy food
----
Only 5-10° left 🥳

Hawk

Unless the VED fits tightly and forms a seal, it will suck air around the base of the VED and not produce a good vacuum.  It can also suck in your scrotum's loose skin and even a testicle.  This can be sudden and painful.

The only way it can form a seal is:
1. The base of your penis fits tight because it is the same diameter as the base of the VED
2. You put a reduction ring in the base of the VED (or around the base of your penis to fill in the area between the base of the penis and the base of the VED)
3. You can press the base of the VED tight against the lower abdomen (actually the fat pad at the base of the penis) to prevent air from leaking in.  This is only possible with certain VED designs and you must shave your hair pretty short.

All of these require a lubricant to help form a seal.
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
Hawk - Updated 10/27/18 - Peyronies Society Forums

Nolte94

26 years old, first symptoms since August 2020, 45° bend to the left, hinge effect and pain at the beginning
‐---
Daily Tadalafil
Traction with PMP
VED with one cylinder
Acetyl-L-Carnitine, Tensiologes, Coq10 and healthy food
----
Only 5-10° left 🥳

this_life

thank you all that makes a lot if sense. i lost the bigger constriction ring so i will be a new one and evaluate whether the ved then works or not
diagnosed in early 2020
shortening and indentation with dorso-lateral curvature
mild to medium ED. tried cialis and ved without any benefits, even with injury from ved

this_life

I have one more question though, with the reduction ring my flaccid width matches the width of the VED but is that not a problem once i start pumping hawk? then the pumped up girth is very much limited by the width at the base of the ved and that might cause injuries?
diagnosed in early 2020
shortening and indentation with dorso-lateral curvature
mild to medium ED. tried cialis and ved without any benefits, even with injury from ved

Hawk

That's an intelligent question.

Since I never used a reduction ring system, I think the answer is it depends.

If the ring surrounds the area of deformity or pain, then I think that area is not going to benefit from much expansion, and putting the ring on and off could cause some minor trauma to that area.  I think it depends on how soft or rigid the ring is and where your deformity of pain is.

If your deformity is halfway down the shaft, then I don't think it is an issue.  I imagine that because of the design or the use of lubricant, you can get the reduction ring to the base of the shaft without traumatizing the deformity or painful area.
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
Hawk - Updated 10/27/18 - Peyronies Society Forums

Hawk

Then I think you are fine.  The Osborn 3 cylinder VED has small tubes smaller than the erect penis so that the healthy penis tissue is restricted in expansion, and more expansion pressure is placed on the bend or dent.
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
Hawk - Updated 10/27/18 - Peyronies Society Forums

Old Man

Hawk:

If I may, would like to clarify the question about ''reduction rings" in the VED procedure. I am supposing the question is about using them and assuming how, etc.

The rings are to be used for allowing for a good tight fit around ones penile shaft. There are usually two that comes with the factory package. The VED user should practice using both as they fit into the mouth of the larger C cylinder. This is done to ensure that the best tight fit is obtained based on how well they fit. This is to prevent ones scrotum and/or testicles from being drawn into the mouth of the VED C cylinder when applying vacuum pressure.

Special note: VED users should locate the proper protocol for using VED therapy. These are listed in the VED board section of the home page index on log into the main forum. There is one for the one cylinder and one for the three cylinder VED.

Old Man
Age 92. Peyronies Disease at age 24, Peyronies Disease after
stage four radical prostatectomy in 1995, Heart surgery 2004 with three bypasses/three stents.
Three more stents in 2016. Hiatal hernia surgery 2017 with 1/3 stomach reduction. Many other surgeries too.

this_life

i have tried it all now. it does not work at all. literallynothing happens, the base fills to very big girth but the upper end nothing, it is beyond my understanding how one csn get an erection with such device. i will post pictures later today about what i have been describing. sofar it seems that i can physically not use the ved whoch is extremely strange to me
diagnosed in early 2020
shortening and indentation with dorso-lateral curvature
mild to medium ED. tried cialis and ved without any benefits, even with injury from ved

Hawk

It is extremely strange to me as well, especially if you tried everything I suggested.
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
Hawk - Updated 10/27/18 - Peyronies Society Forums

Nolte94

If it's too tight around your shaft, your penis can't expand in girth at this point. A little gap between shaft and cylinder is required.
26 years old, first symptoms since August 2020, 45° bend to the left, hinge effect and pain at the beginning
‐---
Daily Tadalafil
Traction with PMP
VED with one cylinder
Acetyl-L-Carnitine, Tensiologes, Coq10 and healthy food
----
Only 5-10° left 🥳