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[AlterEgo]

Has anyone had any success with abstaining from all sexual activity, masturbation and sex?  That with addition of diet changes like healthy eating etc while abstaining?  Also could be taking cialis while abstaining.  I am talking long term abstaining 4 months or more.  Let me know if anyone has had success with this.  Perhaps it's our only hope giving it long time to hear and stay active like walking to keep the blood flowing down there.  I do not believe getting erections is helpful with this.

[NeoV]

Was and is absolutely critical for my penile health to limit sexual activity to once a week. Sex is better than masturbation for how my penis feels so I’ll make exceptions.

[peter123]

Neov you must have an incredibly low aex drive then. What is the point of having a penis when you cna only use it very sporadically? I'd need it at least twice per day everything else is not acceptable especially at 22, what would I give to get this at 60 where limiting sex or masturvation to once per week is more of a lifestyle than pure torture

[1234]

You want heal but can't stop masturbating 2 times a day? 😂😂

[peter123]

You want heal but can't stop masturbating 2 times a day? 😂😂

hahaha so funny that some on this site arent retired seniors with a nuked sex drive

[peyroniesurprise]

Neov you must have an incredibly low aex drive then. What is the point of having a penis when you cna only use it very sporadically? I'd need it at least twice per day everything else is not acceptable especially at 22, what would I give to get this at 60 where limiting sex or masturvation to once per week is more of a lifestyle than pure torture

This hypersexuality is what got you penis problems in the first place. I know because i've been there. Jerking off up to 5 times per days, sometimes totaling hours. This is not normal nor healthy.

You need to simply stop getting sexual arousal for weeks. Also, you have to stop jerking off because it's a homosexual act and it messes with your head. But a realistic fleshlight (like Tornado) and thrust into it. Stop touching your penis.

[TonySa]

Also, you have to stop jerking off because it's a homosexual act and it messes with your head. But a realistic fleshlight (like Tornado) and thrust into it. Stop touching your penis.

Seriously, jerking off is a “homosexual act”?  Those who make homophobic comments often have some discomfort with their own sexuality that they need to come to terms with. 

[peyroniesurprise]

Seriously, jerking off is a “homosexual act”?  Those who make homophobic comments often have some discomfort with their own sexuality that they need to come to terms with.

I believe we may have had this discussion before and i don't want to derail the topic. I'll answer this here but if you want to continue, do another topic in offtopic and ping me.

First of all, "homophobia" does not exist. A phobia is an [1] irrational, [2] pathological (meaning it requires specialized mental health intervention) [3] fear. Neither I nor 99.999% of people that oppose homosexuality have a homophobia because we are not irrationally and pathologically afraid of homosexuals.

Second of all, using "-phobia" to characterise one's position inherently dismisses any objective/valid position he or she may hold on the subject and puts him/her on the spot/defensive for being irrational and needing mental health assistance. For example, let's say you strongly oppose Trump. If i were to call you "trumpphobic" i'd be doing exactly that - dismissing any points you have against him and put you at the wall for being irrational and having a mental health problem for opposing him.

Lastly, and i see this very frequently, just because a person rejects homosexulality does not imply he has homosexual urges. This is quite absurd and to drive this point home, i'll keep using the Trump example. By your logic, if you strongly oppose Trump, you actually harbor some unconscious strong support for him. Obviously this does not make sense, so please stop using this.

To get back to the topic somewhat, calling wanking off homosexual does not even imply one has to oppose homosexuality. Jerking off is objectively a homosexual act and does not emit and judgement on whether homosexuality is right or wrong. When jerking of you get and maintain sexual arousal by stroking a penis. The more you stroke it, the more aroused you get, ending up with orgasming holding a penis in your hand. This is, again, as homosexual as it gets. A different way do think about it, since i can understant it's difficult to see this cause in the last decades there has been a constant push for the normalization of masturbation is to replace jerking off with sucking your own penis. Sucking your own penis and jerking off are essentially the same thing - stimulation of penis with a part of your body. Would you consider sucking your own penis and ejaculating in your mouth a heterosexual activity?

To fully get back to the topic, no matter if one accepts that jerking off is homosexual or not, jerking off is not normal or healthy and with very few notable exceptions, does not exist in nature. Especially jerking off to ejaculation. Mechanically, it's not normal either because the pressure is distributed unevenly and it hurts the penis. And it's not normal because the male is usually the one to move, which does not happen in jerking off.

I stand by my initial post and say that if you really, really need it, you have to buy a realistic fleshlight and thrust into it.

[TonySa]

Peyronie’s surprise, i “think you doth protest too much”!  Lol. By the way you’re also making transphobic comments on other posts-talk about staying on topic!

[peter123]

yeah what a great solution abstaining from sexual activity that might work for some 50 year old man but think about the insanity telling someone in his early twenties just abstain from sexuality bro. btw your DEPRESSION is the real problem not the fact that your sexuality got obliterated by some weird ass disease. its all about that mindset bro

[peyroniesurprise]

transphobic

That is another word that, as i explained earlier, does not exist.

yeah what a great solution abstaining from sexual activity that might work for some 50 year old man but think about the insanity telling someone in his early twenties just abstain from sexuality bro. btw your DEPRESSION is the real problem not the fact that your sexuality got obliterated by some weird ass disease. its all about that mindset bro

Abstaining is perfectly normal, this recent trend towards hypersexuality is not. It is not normal to not be able to abstain and to HAVE to ejaculate one way or another.  If a man can not go a few weeks without ejaculating and if that does not come easy for him, that man has a problem.

Especially in the case of peyronie, letting it rest is the best course of action. Nocturnal/morning erections will take care of penile architecture.

The best possible thing to do for peyronie is to let it heal. Worst thing to do is to keep "testing" it.

[jan.schaller1958]

Peyroinesurprise,

None of what you are saying makes any sense. And, what do you mean by „hypersexuality“? What‘s that?

And you know exactly what transphobia and homophobia means, so stop playing these silly word games. It means you don’t like transsexual or gay people and you think they are not „normal“ (whatever „normal“ is) and you think they are weirdos. Think what you want because no one cares.

I couldn’t care less what adults do sexually in private if it’s consensual. It’s none of my business. For 31, you sound like someone (but not most people) my age, 62. We don’t even think like that anymore. That’s 1970s era thinking and it was criticized back then for what it was, just stupidity.

And what do you mean „let your Peyroines heal.“ Excuse me pal, Peyroines doesn’t just heal up and just go away on its own like some cut on your arm. And you didn’t get Peyroines by masturbating. That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. If that were true, every guy on the planet would have Peyroines, which they don’t. And I didn’t get Peyroines till 56. Obviously, 44 years or whatever of masturbating never gave it to me. How come you got it at 31?

[peter123]

im 22 and withiut cialis i csnt get good erections wtf

[peyroniesurprise]

Peyroinesurprise,

None of what you are saying makes any sense. And, what do you mean by „hypersexuality“? What‘s that?

And you know exactly what transphobia and homophobia means, so stop playing these silly word games. It means you don’t like transsexual or gay people and you think they are not „normal“ (whatever „normal“ is) and you think they are weirdos. Think what you want because no one cares.

I couldn’t care less what adults do sexually in private if it’s consensual. It’s none of my business. For 31, you sound like someone (but not most people) my age, 62. We don’t even think like that anymore. That’s 1970s era thinking and it was criticized back then for what it was, just stupidity.

And what do you mean „let your Peyroines heal.“ Excuse me pal, Peyroines doesn’t just heal up and just go away on its own like some cut on your arm. And you didn’t get Peyroines by masturbating. That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. If that were true, every guy on the planet would have Peyroines, which they don’t. And I didn’t get Peyroines till 56. Obviously, 44 years or whatever of masturbating never gave it to me. How come you got it at 31?

Hypersexuality is the state i was describing earlier. No matter your age, it is abnormal not to be able to comfortably abstain from sexual activity for a while. This recent oversexualized media wants you to believe otherwise, but again it is NOT normal to be horny and have to jerk off any other day. Sperm is recycled by your own body, it doesn't need to be "flushed".

Transphobia and homophobia are words that do not exist. Their usage distort the language and imply things that are not true. Yes i oppose both and they are very unhealthy, however i do not consider the people affected by those things "weirdos", just people that need help. Your generation failed when it normalized sexual promiscuity, masturbation and homosexuality, everything went downhill from there.

Yes, peyroine does heal by itself and yes you can get it by jerking off, especially when you have underlying vascular problems and other health issues. Masturbation is very differently mechanically than sex. That's why some people get peyronie at 20, others at 30, others at 50. You don't get healthier as you age.

[jan.schaller1958]

peyroinesurprise (I don’t know where you got that name, it sounds like something on a menu you’d eat, or a kind of pizza): you don’t get to just make up words in languages or apply your own private meanings to them and say that’s what they mean,  or say some words don’t exist, like transphobia and homophobia, which do exist. Those are words accepted in English to mean exactly what I said: they mean the transphobic or homophobic person is a backward-thinking bigot. Of course the words don’t mean being afraid of anyone. No kidding.  They just mean you don’t like transsexual or homosexual people and that you’re just an anti-sexual prude who won’t accept the world the way it is. And when it comes to gay and trans people you don’t consider them „normal“ (who are you to define „normal“ anyway?) And, these people need help? What if they are happy and don’t want help (whatever that is supposed to amount to)? Now what?

And my generation failed at normalizing homosexuality, promiscuity, masturbation and everything went down hill from there? That’s total BS. My generation just looked at the world the way it is and accepted it. I don’t know of any men my age who are heterosexual yet think like you about gay or transsexual people. Like I said we gave up thinking like that 40 years ago, because it was just stupid. You sound like 91, not 31.

The only purpose of sperm is to get out of the body. And sex is how you do it, including masturbation, which is perfectly healthy, does NOT cause Peyroines, and is something every guy does. What’s unnatural and harmful to the prostate is holding it in. Masturbation 6 times a day wouldnt cause Peyroines. That’s BS. That’s why 90% of men don’t have Peyroines yet they all masturbate.  You didn’t get Peyroines from masturbation. Impossible. Peyroines is a wound healing disorder with a genetic component, genetic predisposition, of unknown origin. Those are the facts.

[Scotyboi]

Moving on from homosexuality and whatever

I do think depression and mental health is a big part of this because your penis is very linked to your brain and it will perform better when you are full of serotonin and T and have good dopamine receptors ect ect. I feel peyronie's advances in the active phase alot when the penis lacks blood flow and sensitivity and alot of that will come down to depression.

On no fap. You can see a link to leaving it to allow that sensitivity to build up. My problem was constantly checking, I'd give myself an erection for hours. And this was worse than fapping because at least then you get a pay off. So ofc total abstinence forever is bad idea (and it's actually how I got peyronie's in the first place) but doing it every day is foolish. NeoV is right when you are to use it but not abuse it. And this will ofc help with depression! Your getting a pay off but your not blasting your dopamine receptors.


Oh yeah but porn is evil and must be destroyed.

[jan.schaller1958]

Scotyboi,

I won’t say porn is evil and must be destroyed. I think that’s a bit extreme. But I can say comparing yourself to others is not a good idea and with porn you are sort of doing that. That’s why I’d say for older people it’s best not to spend much time with porn if you’ve got Peyroines or Erectile Dysfunction issues (men in porn aren’t featured with Peyroines after all).

You might be on to something with the dopamine and serotonin stuff I will say.

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