Can you become PHYSICALLY reliant on ED drugs like Cialis/Viagra

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HeyThereYou

Hey! I'm only 21 and going to have to start using something like 2.5mg Cialis (tadalafil) or Viagra 25mg-50mg (Sildenafil) before intercourse as i have weak erections mainly due to a mild form of peyronies but could have other factors involved as well.
My urologist has actually prescribed me to take 2.5mg of Tadalafil every single night for 3 months to start with. I think i'm going to start off just trying them once - twice a week, when i'm feeling lucky etc.

QUESTIONS:
- Can anyone chime in here who HAS used them and stopped and has had no issues then without them in the future or just reverted back to the norm? What was your usage/dose/duration of use etc as well?

- Are certain ones more likely to make you PHYSICALLY dependent? Cialis 2.5mg compared to 25mg-50mg of Viagra ? Which one are you least likely to become reliant on?

- Does the dosage effect if you become PHYSICALLY reliant on them or not? E.g I take Cialis 2.5mg every single day compared to just taking 1-2 a week i will be more likely to become reliant on them? (Viagras purpose would only be when having sex anyway).

peter123


"There is no scientific evidence that sildenafil, tadalafil or any other medications used to treat erectile dysfunction are physically addictive." which in medical terms means they aren't  
THIS USER HAS BEEN BANNED FROM FORUM FOR REPEATED RULE VIOLATIONS He never had Peyronies Disease but has body dysmorphia and his pastime was to attack all treatments, medical resources, and opinions.

Monty

Hi what i've read and seen and done over the past few years, that pills, VEDs, cock rings and traction units are not addictive, but if you want a erection you need them, or the only way out is a Penis Implant.
but i must say i get cravings for a session on my VED, get it right and the feeling is WOW, then slip on a cock ring, a quick pump up and away you go.  
71 UK, ED from 2011, unable to get full erection, Peyronies Disease from  2015 acute bend to left, VED & hand traction + 20mg of Tadalafil twice a week, or when i'm feeling lucky, forum member November 2017. Fav Film&Song, TheGoodTheBadThe Ugly. A Day in the Life

Hawk

Some individuals have had a personal sense that they did build up a tolerance or they became dependent on these (none more than the other) but as stated before there is no medically documented evidence of that.

I suspect that what happens is simply that Erectile Dysfunction almost always tends to be a progressive disorder.  Without any medication your erections are likely to be less reliable at 31 then they are at 21.  This means if you take a medication you might feel you need more ten years from now but it is not a built up tolerance to the medication.  It is likely a worsening of your Erectile Dysfunction.  Some men might also become somewhat psychologically dependent and become stressed that they cannot get an erection without it.  Stress is an erection killer.  I think most men however do not feel they developed a tolerance to these drugs.
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
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HeyThereYou

Thanks Monty and Hawk.

Yeah sounds right Hawk, I guess i've got to weigh things up, It's not worth the risk to have sex without the aid of it but i guess it's just because i'm soooooo young and i'm convinced mine is to do with peyronies though as before i was 14 and i had this injury my penis was like a wand lol. Could be erect at any time i wanted and it would be a real hard on, ahhhhhh what a shame aye

peter123

Worst is that there is seemingly no cure. I'm. 22 years old now and I am dependent on these drugs for the rest of my life. Initially it might have been mental ED but now it's pretty obvious that this thickened band of tissue is preventing blood flow, evident in the fact that one side gets erect before the other and there is pain and I cna feel how hard it is for the blood to pass by this plaque cord. The only fix is incision and grafting which I'll probably need in the future. And then an implant. Here in Europe nobody gives a crap about men who suffer from. Peyronie's, we don't even have xiaflex, it was discontinued because blood sucking terroristic insurance companies rather Anat to pay for cheaper surgery than something less invasive for the patient and more costly for them. We also don't do interferon or verapamil injections even tho rcts have shown some benefit in the accute stage. Most doctors here live and breath the just wait and see and then in 12 months reevaluate hive mind. They shouldn't even allowed to call themselves ansrologists, they are butchers and they want to butch
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projectpd

great respect is due to Monty because his success is amazing.  but he wrote "get cravings for a session on my VED, get it right and the feeling is WOW, then slip on a cock ring, a quick pump up and away you go." some people may have got the impression he means sex?  you are not normally supposed to use a cock ring with a vacuum device just as part of the exercise, as they are supposed to be used for sex, however, clamping is a well known, advanced technique in the PE (penis enlargement) community, so maybe Monty has happened upon a relatively perhaps much more effective technique for himself, but it is not to be advised as if it is as safe etc. as the customary techniques.  

The soma design , if not using a sealing piece,  relies on contact between the tube and abdomen for the seal ,  is this why vacuum has to be released obviously simply in order the cock ring to be deployed? in that case all needed to do is use a regular , cheap, non "medical grade" silicon sleeve (cost 1$)
Age 57, Onset 2010, 2" shortening, shrinking and angulation of glans, weaker erections, 30 degree bend. Mild pain few months, but far from worst symptom. Tried many ideas, not just from here, but not consistently. Moderate improvement, maybe 40%

Hawk

The Penis Enlargement community is best know for getting results but unfortunately those "Well known" techniques are best known for destroying man's penis.  Hundreds have been here over the years wishing they could turn back the clock.  To even suggest that any man who follow their advice is bad enough but to suggest that a man who is known to be predisposed to Peyronies Disease use any of their techniques just irresponsible.  
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
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projectpd

if you mean, me ? No, it's not. people make suggestions here every day, such as, dry fasting, which can kill you, obscure drugs, and suicide.  Everyone must take responsibility for themselves, and act at their own risk, clearly.   Also I have searched here before for methods used on the PE forums and couldnt find much content, let alone hundreds of reports of destroyed penises.  And of course I'm not recommending the idea but commenting on how it could be related, a cock ring is a form of clamp basically.  
Age 57, Onset 2010, 2" shortening, shrinking and angulation of glans, weaker erections, 30 degree bend. Mild pain few months, but far from worst symptom. Tried many ideas, not just from here, but not consistently. Moderate improvement, maybe 40%