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Author Topic: Unexpected increase in girth and less pain - Improvement or chronic phase?  (Read 199 times)

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jj21

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I have recently (past 5 days) noticed an increase in girth as well as less pain. I never measured however it is visually obvious and physically (I can feel my penis is thicker in my hands) noticeable. It's noticeable when my penis is flaccid and erect. There's also less pain.

I'm trying not to get too excited into thinking I may be making progress.

The only things I have done differently in the past 2 weeks is as follows:

- Increased my daily cialis from 2.5mg daily to 5mg daily (I have done this over the past 2 weeks)
- I have stopped pumping for about 2 weeks with my VED as I'm looking to purchase a medical grade one and im tired of the sex shop VE sucking in my scrotum.
- I have continued with Pentox and Cialis daily for about 6 months now
- I did take some Ibuprofen for about 2-3 days
- I took a hydrolised collagen supplement with B12 as a preworkout for gym for probbaly 5 days straight. (After researching this my understanding is that collagen supplementation is bad for peyronies?)
- I edged for maybe 20 mins a day for 3 days
- Due to depression my diet was probably really bad where I ate almost nothing each day other than a piece of bread . This happened for about 3 days straight.
- I think I did masturbate a bit too much one day when I was depressed to the point where I thought I may have done more damage as well.
- I have been doing kegels while edging and masturbating. I notice kegels help straighten part of my penis amost like the right side base doesnt inflate properly causing a bend to the left as its shorter on the right side. When doing a kegel it inflates a bit more creating a temporary (1 second during kegel) straighter erection.

Other than that everything has been the same.

Would anyone have any clue as to whats going on? I'm trying not to get too excited and think i'm making improvement.

Could this just be that i've moved from the acute phase to the chronic phase and thus there's less inflammation and less pain??? Which is resulting in an increase in girth/thickness. Other than that my curvature is the same and I think my Erectile Dysfunction is still the same as well I've been trying to avoid erections at the moment.

Any advice is appreciated.
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- Increased my daily cialis from 2.5mg daily to 5mg daily (I have done this over the past 2 weeks)


This surely will increase blood circulation to the penis.
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- I have stopped pumping for about 2 weeks with my VED as I'm looking to purchase a medical grade one and im tired of the sex shop VE sucking in my scrotum.

There are professional pump companies that also sell silicone bases, which can help with the skin.
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- I took a hydrolised collagen supplement with B12 as a preworkout for gym for probbaly 5 days straight. (After researching this my understanding is that collagen supplementation is bad for peyronies?)
No, we want healthy collagen. Most basic building block for it is Vitamin C.
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- I have been doing kegels while edging and masturbating. I notice kegels help straighten part of my penis amost like the right side base doesnt inflate properly causing a bend to the left as its shorter on the right side. When doing a kegel it inflates a bit more creating a temporary (1 second during kegel) straighter erection.
Make sure to also do "reverse kegels" (search it on google) to balance normal kegels. Training the penis to fill with a conscious kegel longterm will imbalance the erection process.

Keep doing what you do if it works. Surely sounds like you tackle it from some good angles.
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some of those things should be helpful theoretically, but I wonder if upping cialis from 2.5mg daily to 5mg daily might have made the difference? presumably you already thought 2.5mg wasn't enough,  so maybe it just kicked in at 5mg.
I assure you there won't be any difference with a medical grade ved as functionally it is just a tube with negative pressure, if the tube diameter is equal. I have one and it didn't even come with a sleeve, so out of box wasn't even as good as a typical toy type.  But you can go on ebay or amazon and buy a variety of sleeves with different diameters/types to try.
what type and dose of collagen were you using btw? I imagine that should be helpful if anything.
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Yeah, makes sense 5mg would be bringing more blood flow...
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Makes sense, it must have just taken 2 weeks for the Cialis to kick in with the higher dosage.

ProjectP - Have you had much success with the VED? Also, a 3 cylinder VED? I noted that some guys say using the smaller cylinders helps keep their penis straight within the chamber. Also seen many posts about the 26 week protocol giving guys good results.

The collagen was just a collagen supplement for gym with Vitamin C in it. I think you guys are right and the obvious answer is that upping the Cialis increased blood flow as my erectile function feels a bit better as well.
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I haven't used them enough to be able to say, unfortunately. Trying to make more of an effort lately.  I've been reading penis enlargement forums, and anecdotally experiences are all over the spectrum from quite effective to completely ineffective. I have to believe if it works , it may be only very conditionally - maybe depending on the individual, and what else they are doing.  If it works by mechanical stretching, or depends on doing that in addition to it, one obviously thinks of the number of hours that are needed for success from simple stretching.  If /when it works, I would think it ought to be able to replace lost elastic tissue and/or compensate for scar tissue if that doesn't stretch.

Regarding different sized tubes, that would make sense to me if it works simply by mechanical tension applied, rather than / in addition to, improving blood flow/penis health, just as stretching does, but by applying mechanical tension to stretch the scars in 3 dimensions, rather than just 1 dimension from a stretcher. 

If that's the way it works, then it also seems to make sense that using restrictively sized tubes would help by creating higher lengthwise tension on the scar side by reaction forces from the tube wall , than could be obtained as safely by vacuum alone.  in the same vein, the glans could be protected by a cap so expansion forces could be relatively higher on the shaft, or maybe making a slightly bent cylinder could apply more local tension, that's also been mooted here.

 
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Of course upping the blood flow via Cialis also means the supplements you take have a higher chance to reach your Penis tissue more often in bigger amounts.
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Project - What you said makes a lot of sense and I assume that's why they recommend the 3 cylinder VED here.

Melting - You're right, and the combination of Cialis daily + Pentox made a significant difference to my Erectile Dysfunction. So I always urge members to get onto Cialis daily and Pentox as soon as they show signs of sypmtoms. I think a lot of us could be healed if we stuck to a good routine of VED, Traction, cialis daily and pentox.
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