Anyone heard of DeFibron??

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Dipstick

Guys,

I found this stuff on another forum it contains the following:

Methyl palmitate
Methyl stearate
Methyl myristate

They call it DeFibron does anyone know anything at all about this stuff? Can we apply it to our penis or take it oral?

I am having a hard time understanding what the science is saying but read what this guy wrote

https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/defibron-liquid-methylated-sfa-for-lab-r-d.17626/

Im wondering if this is quackery or not... does anyone know anything about these ingredients?
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melting

Very interesting find. Great discussion over there with many different views.
It's very well sourced and the theory is sound. How it works practically is often another thing though..

All 3 ingredients have a low molecular weight that could be administered transdermaly with something like dmso.
Some apparently applying the defibron without a transdermal agent directly to the skin over there..
Daily Transdermals and Traction/VED solved my Peyronies Disease https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,12587.0.html (DMSO+X)

Dipstick

Yes I might add some of that to my transdermal regime.

Melting, are you still doing transdermal?
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projectpd

it is interesting,  bear in mind Ray Peat has very unconventional views,  He believes EFAs (essential fatty acids ) are harmful, promote cancer,  inflammation and hypothyroidism and should be eliminated , hence the comment about these substances having the ability to cause EFA deficiency in the list of benefits  - that's ideal in his view.  
Age 57, Onset 2010, 2" shortening, shrinking and angulation of glans, weaker erections, 30 degree bend. Mild pain few months, but far from worst symptom. Tried many ideas, not just from here, but not consistently. Moderate improvement, maybe 40%

melting

Quote from: Dipstick on May 29, 2020, 09:11:17 AM


Melting, are you still doing transdermal?

Maybe once a week I completely flood my penis with DMSO+VitaminC to maintain tissue health.  
Two days ago I had bad pain with a tendon and DMSO+Magnesium helped very fast.
Daily Transdermals and Traction/VED solved my Peyronies Disease https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,12587.0.html (DMSO+X)

Dipstick

Quote from: projectpd on May 29, 2020, 09:59:08 AM
it is interesting,  bear in mind Ray Peat has very unconventional views,  He believes EFAs (essential fatty acids ) are harmful, promote cancer,  inflammation and hypothyroidism and should be eliminated , hence the comment about these substances having the ability to cause EFA deficiency in the list of benefits  - that's ideal in his view.

I don't know much about Ray peat to be honest. Efa's... I didn't know that he thought that. I guess there are more than one way to skin a cat. Some treatments here we see promoted for peyronies "I've seen people claim msm as a must, while others say it's a cause. I wonder if both views are true depending on the context of your treatment?

Like melting for example using vit c which is pro collagen. I see the logic as it's a healing substance, meanwhile, other treatments are the opposite and anti collagen.  
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Dipstick

Quote from: melting on May 29, 2020, 01:23:15 PM


Maybe once a week I completely flood my penis with DMSO+VitaminC to maintain tissue health.  
Two days ago I had bad pain with a tendon and DMSO+Magnesium helped very fast.

Is your peyronies still there or is it mostly gone now?
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melting

Since this year completely gone. Completely functioning and can't palpate any plaques.  
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Primus89

Hey guys,

have you managed to try the DeFibron? I am also thinking of trying it - my brother
is kind of into the RayPeat-Stuff. The Studies on the DeFibron and it's anti-fibrotic effects
do sound interesting. But it feels a bit experimental to just try it out and see what this
chemical might do, when its only tested in rats.
31yrs,
First symptoms mid January 21
March 21:Diagnosed w. Peyronies+Benign Prostate Hypoplasmia+strong Vit. D deficiency.
35°up-,15°side-bend. Calcification.
Meds:
Cialis 5mg/d
L arginin, L-Carnitine, L-Citrulline, CoQ10, Vit E,
Traction with PMP