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Dressa

Hi!

Sufferer since three years back. Tries ved on and off. Now I Read this...

https://www.peyroniesassociation.org/knowledge-base/why-is-the-ved-not-recognized-by-most-urologists-as-being-a-viable-treatment-for-Peyronies Disease/

Is traction better?

Peace!

Andreas

popopo

Your link doesn't seem to work. But for me personally VED hasn't worked as somehow I always end up doing more damage even if I pump very lightly. I injured myself from jelqing and using pumps in the past so I may react very differently to it compared to other peyronies sufferers though.
Age: 25
Date of onset: 17
Symptoms: sharp pains, numbness, change in shape/size, hourglassing and discolaration from jelqing/VED usage as a teen. Diagnosed with a venous leak and possible scarring.
Treatments tried: cialis, pentox and VED didnt help

TonySa

Many have had success w VED, however many more studies on the efficacy of traction.
PxD 2 yrs 9/16.  Failed all treatment. 9/11/18: excision, grafting & implant Dr Karpman MtnView Ca, AMS CX 18cm + 3-1cm RTEs.
Pump failed.  2/11/20 Dr Karpman installed Titan 22cm +1cm RTE.

Dressa

Ah! Sorry something's wrong with the link. In short it states thatved and traction DO not work att all. No encouraging reading.

Dressa


Hawk

That appears to be nothing more than one man's post on a basically defunct forum.  Do you know who posted it and the date?  It fails to reference small clinical studies to the contrary.  It wrongly suggests the rate of spontaneous is anywhere near high enough to account for improvement reported.  It is also a website that is sponsored by those that have a huge vested interest in Xiaflex so I would take that into consideration when weighing the evidence.  That forum is essentially dead for a reason.
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
Hawk - Updated 10/27/18 - Peyronies Society Forums

Mr man

Quote from: Dressa on March 12, 2020, 12:26:27 PM
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Who is the author to this? Is it based on a medical study under strict conditions? Well No. It's just an opinion. There are plenty of genuine studies showing VED. Vacuum therapy and traction therapy do work. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm saying it's weak. I prefer to go with true scientific studies. My advice to anyone. Go where the evidence is..
Latest routine. Started l-lysine 3mg daily, l-proline 5mg daily. Increased vit c intake. Accompanied with almost daily vacuum therapy. Pumping to 100% Exercise caution! Made good progress. L arginine supplements and prescribed potaba are helping.

melting

Stretching tissue, generally stretching any material, with the right intensity and duration will result in a change of the tissue.

Simple logic anyone can observe. No need for a study or anything to get there. The guy who wrote the opinion is simply dumb.
Daily Transdermals and Traction/VED solved my Peyronies Disease https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,12587.0.html (DMSO+X)

projectpd

this may be really worth a read: https://www.pumptoys.com/lib/lib2b.htm , although it's about 'ball' pumping it has good tips on a number of ved risks .  quite eye opening. including how to make a "combo" ved from a drinks dispenser for a few $! he does seem to be saying permanent penis enlargements are uncommon, but that they do occur.
Age 57, Onset 2010, 2" shortening, shrinking and angulation of glans, weaker erections, 30 degree bend. Mild pain few months, but far from worst symptom. Tried many ideas, not just from here, but not consistently. Moderate improvement, maybe 40%

Godisreal

Pameslaugh: VED creates a vacuum-induced erection, while an ordinary erection is the body's natural way of creating an erection.  
30 degree dorsal curve, immobility and heavy loss of girth.
My body seems to get very inflamed when I masturbate too often or eat unhealthy.
Using antioxidants, Pentox and hirudoid cream, as well as manual traction, heat and Cialis.

peter123



Who ever wrote this is a massive idiot. At this point I'm. Convinced that some doctors don't want conservative treatment to work so they cna butcher you with surgery. Ved works in animal studies, it does cause the release of enzymes that eat scar tissue but no, that cnat be, it needs to be bc they are spontaneous healers. Think about the midn games these people go through. I wish them the absolute worst for their future
THIS USER HAS BEEN BANNED FROM FORUM FOR REPEATED RULE VIOLATIONS He never had Peyronies Disease but has body dysmorphia and his pastime was to attack all treatments, medical resources, and opinions.

Yardbird

That particular link is dead, but I found quite a bit of interesting info elsewhere on that site by searching for non-surgical therapies. Good info on pentox and viagra together not being contraindicated.
Age 63
T1 diabetic. circumferential scarring, very narrowed erection & 1.5" length loss, and 80° bend to left. Also have L&R Dupuytren's, L&R Lederhosen's and R adhesive capsulitis. Had 25° congenital left curve before Peyronies, but functioned fine.