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Copper supplements for peyronie
« on: February 11, 2020, 03:04:26 AM »

So i was reading about coper and zinc and it seems that zinc depletes copper and viceversa. I've taken a lot of zinc before and during my peyronie but at some point i stopped taking it for other reasons and i noticed i stopped having pain on ejaculation and my tight pelvic  floor relaxed sonehow.

I then read the zinc depleting copper and the role of copper in blood circulation. Apparently copper is quite essential for circulation.

I started supplementing with copper a few days ago and i got more surprises. Erection seems more "natural" , the pelvic floor feels more relaxed and i get some pleasant and warm tingles in it and most obvious bit is that my flaccid size is finally getting fuller. Has more length and girth. Before and during the first stages of peyronie my flaccid size was greatly reduced, the penis was retracted and small. The testicles were also retracted. Now the testicles are also hanging.

I think copper might play a role and interestingly enough  copper peptides are also used for circulation in hair loss.
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Re: Copper supplements for peyronie
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2020, 07:10:55 AM »

Witch brand or tablets(pills) are you using please pm me.
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Re: Copper supplements for peyronie
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2020, 07:43:58 AM »

i am interested also please post the quantity of copper you take or pm me
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Re: Copper supplements for peyronie
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2020, 09:14:53 AM »

When you have finished your current copper supplement why not switch to a high quality Cocoa/Cacoa powder, or 85-100% chocolate, not only you get copper but Zinc, Magnesium, Iron etcetera

see https://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/sweets/5471/2

I use 85-90% dark chocolate, about 30 grams and it also definitely lifts your mood (dopamine) nicely  :)
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Re: Copper supplements for peyronie
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2020, 07:25:21 AM »

Organ Targeted Copper Delivery Reverses Fibrosis in Rhesus Monkey Model of Myocardial Ischemic Infarction
https://www.fasebj.org/doi/abs/10.1096/fasebj.30.1_supplement.1205.4
"results thus suggest Cu-induced MMP-1 elevation in the infarct area is mostly likely responsible for the breakage of collagen cross-linking leading to diminished collagen deposition and improved angiogenesis and recovery of cardiac function."
Deactivation of Fibroblasts and Reduction of Fibrosis by Target-Specific Copper Supplementation in Rhesus Monkey Model of Myocardial Ischemic Infarction
https://www.fasebj.org/doi/abs/10.1096/fasebj.31.1_supplement.301.2
" Cu induced deactivation of fibroblasts was associated with the reduction of collagen synthesis and the increase in collagen degradation in the infarct myocardium"
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Re: Copper supplements for peyronie
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2020, 05:53:02 PM »

Witch brand or tablets(pills) are you using please pm me.

i am interested also please post the quantity of copper you take or pm me

I am using GNC copper 2mg, 100% recommended daily intake. For no particular reason other than it was the first brand i managed to find because apparently copper ONLY supplements are not that common. They're usually mixed with zinc or something else.

When you have finished your current copper supplement why not switch to a high quality Cocoa/Cacoa powder, or 85-100% chocolate, not only you get copper but Zinc, Magnesium, Iron etcetera

see https://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/sweets/5471/2

I use 85-90% dark chocolate, about 30 grams and it also definitely lifts your mood (dopamine) nicely  :)
Paul.

The problem is that allegedly zinc depletes copper so i do not want to get something with zinc in it. Coincidence or not, i was taking massive zinc only supplements before and at the first stage of peyronie, plus i was eating boiled oats which is also very high in zinc. So i want to go the other way and max copper intake.

So far it is really looking spectacular, i haven't seen my penis flaccid but fully vascularised in a year and a half at least. My balls also dropped. That's a couple of days into copper supplementation.

I do eat extra dark chocolate, i know it's healthy.

Organ Targeted Copper Delivery Reverses Fibrosis in Rhesus Monkey Model of Myocardial Ischemic Infarction
https://www.fasebj.org/doi/abs/10.1096/fasebj.30.1_supplement.1205.4
"results thus suggest Cu-induced MMP-1 elevation in the infarct area is mostly likely responsible for the breakage of collagen cross-linking leading to diminished collagen deposition and improved angiogenesis and recovery of cardiac function."
Deactivation of Fibroblasts and Reduction of Fibrosis by Target-Specific Copper Supplementation in Rhesus Monkey Model of Myocardial Ischemic Infarction
https://www.fasebj.org/doi/abs/10.1096/fasebj.31.1_supplement.301.2
" Cu induced deactivation of fibroblasts was associated with the reduction of collagen synthesis and the increase in collagen degradation in the infarct myocardium"

Very interesting! See this is what i am talking about. I noticed copper was doing something even if i was not up to date with the research on it. This just confirms that i was not imagining things.
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Re: Copper supplements for peyronie
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2020, 05:12:12 AM »

how is your penis in erection your hourglass is fuller also ,do you feel any pain?
 or your gains are only in flaccid state
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Re: Copper supplements for peyronie
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2020, 06:11:10 AM »

I no longer have hourglass since i lost length. The penis has normal shape, just shorter.

I do not feel any pain now on erection/penetration. I used to feel a lot of pain even when getting erections because my pelvic floor would spasm involuntarily and would increase the pressure in my penis. I would feel the most pain on ejaculation because that's when the pelvic floor spasms the most.

Aside from the gains in flaccid size, i seem to be getting back overall girth on erection.

Looking back, i do think that zinc alone may have contributed to this and just stopping zinc probably helped but adding copper seems to be giving everything the extra ooph back to normality.

Interestingly enough, i also started feeling sensation and pleasure on penetration, which did not happen before. Before it was like my dick was numb. I knew it was there but had no proper sensation registering from it.
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Treatment: Vit E and fish oil (vitD+E), no more masturbation; good improvement so far, less hourglass both in flaccid and erect state, little to no pain during erection now

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Re: Copper supplements for peyronie
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2020, 06:27:09 AM »

thanks for the reply man very informative because i am experimenting with iodine now i do not know if i should add copper maybe i will next week ,please keep as informed very interesting how much length have you lost ,wish you the best and a full recovery
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Re: Copper supplements for peyronie
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2020, 07:25:03 AM »

I went from 7.something to 6.4 inch in length. But i also noticed i was losing girth all around, not just in the plaque area, which to me confirmed it was more of a circulation problem that lead to peyronie in the first place.

What i also did and i think it helped immensely is that i stopped jerking off completely and now i hump a silicone sleeve (no plastic casing). The feeling is completely different and the pressure is much more even on the penis, as it should be. On top of that, i no longer binge masturbate and i have no more compulsion like i used to. In the past i'd stay erect for hours even, now it's something like 10 minutes and i'm done.
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Re: Copper supplements for peyronie
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2020, 07:37:24 AM »

have you regained any length on copper also how many days for copper to see results
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Re: Copper supplements for peyronie
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2020, 07:42:58 AM »

too early to tell. I'm just 10 days in.

I noticed the increased (normalized) flaccid girth 4 days in. Testicles dropped around the same time. Around the same time I started getting some warm tingles in the pelvic area, it just feels more alive if that makes any sense.

I also noticed increased erect girth 5-6 days in. I didn't measure length but it feels a bit bigger.

Again, i am not saying this is the cure 100%, i think that me completely stopping jerking off and switching to silicone sleeve humping played a big role too.
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Treatment: Vit E and fish oil (vitD+E), no more masturbation; good improvement so far, less hourglass both in flaccid and erect state, little to no pain during erection now

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Re: Copper supplements for peyronie
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2020, 07:48:15 AM »

thank you man i hope it is,sounds very promising to see results in just a few days,it seems  you have found something very good
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Re: Copper supplements for peyronie
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2020, 11:16:59 AM »

It does help. For copper intake i use stored water in copper bottle first thing in the morning(7-8hrs storage). It has been very good for circulation. Helps for thyroid problems, better wound healing. Worth adding to treat peyronie's disease
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Re: Copper supplements for peyronie
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2020, 11:24:35 AM »

justcause91 for how long do you use ,and also what are your symptoms what benefits have you seen from copper
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Re: Copper supplements for peyronie
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2020, 11:33:47 AM »

Levels of serum trace elements in patients with Peyronie.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29768978
"Mn, Cu, Zn, and Fe levels in Peyronie patients were statistically significantly lower when compared to the healthy control group"
what do you think guys?
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Re: Copper supplements for peyronie
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2020, 11:08:35 PM »

whyisthishappening I started using this week itself and its going good in terms of circulation. Healing wise i have to limit fapping and practice no fap monk mode for 2 months. I feel increased penile circulation due to copper and with nofap will heal peyronie.  Also in ayurveda they say that due to imbalance of doshas peyronie disease occurs so copper water can balance doshas. It is good addition
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Re: Copper supplements for peyronie
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2020, 05:30:49 AM »

justcause91 what dose do you use?
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Re: Copper supplements for peyronie
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2020, 01:27:05 PM »

IDk about dosage..just normal water stored in copper bottle
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Re: Copper supplements for peyronie
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2020, 01:37:35 PM »

do you think to take pills?
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