I’ve been attacked by Peyronies

[desmondthethird]

Hi there people, my name is Desmond and I'm 20 years old. I developed Peyronie's very quickly after a terrible sexual experience in November last year, don't wanna go into details.
It started off with pain, and it hasn't subsided yet. So I understand I'm in active phase.
I quickly got on Pentox as well as Coq10, as I read that those two are good. I also bought L-Citrulline, my doc here in Glasgow refused to prescribe me Cialis for some reason.
Anyhow, it developed very fast and my main problem now is a large amount of small lumps that causes thinning, especially in flaccid mode. Is anyone else familiar with these lumps? They are not veins, so don't assume that. They are very soft (pretty much the same as healthy tissue, it seems) and they slightly constrict blood flow. I have them spread all over my shaft, pretty much. Some are bigger than others. While some of them do look like veins, I'm sure the most of them display some kind of scarring in the early stages. Again, if anyone has similar symptoms, please comment on this post.
I also have no pain in erect state, only discomfort/pain in flaccid state that comes totally randomized.
I'm very confused & bothered by this, I'd be happy if someone could guide me further.
I've read the survival guide, I also plan to order a DMSO mix of some sort - since I've learned that this could be highly effective if used properly. My penis does not respond well to series of masturbation, other than that, my penis is running his own race on this one, it seems. I'm not feeling that Pentox does too much of a difference, maybe I need to give it more time.
How long could it take to see results (if you do) with Pentox? 3 months? 6 months?
I want to attack this motherf*cker as good as I can. Pardon my swearing.
Lastly, I haven't tried psychical therapies yet.

Best regards,
Desmond  

[TonySa]

Did your doc do an ultrasound to diagnose peyronies?

[desmondthethird]

Yes, the ultrasound didn't show any signs of calcification but my doctor believed me when I told him about my symptoms and my soreness etc.
He also told me that tadalafil (cialis) isn't part of his routine when it comes to treating Peyronie's, so he basically refused to prescribe it. He did, however, trust the use of Pentox for Peyronies Disease.
I have a slight upward bend as well, this has always been the case however.
But I can, with absence from anxiety, say that it has most certainly gotten worse.
I'm attacking this bull with a bunch of pills and supplements. Not sure if progression is stopping or not... like I said before, I'm not sure how fast I can expect results from Pentox? If there are any results at all, that is.
- Desmond

[melting]

What pentox are you using in what dose and how often?
It certainly can help but probably wont solve on it's own.

No cialis? Yes cause you live in the EU socialist BS healthcare system were such is rationed.
All you can do is to try other docs and/or feign erection problems of the worst kind so it is indicated.

November as in 3 months ago? What happened to the tissue? bend? stretched? Reaction day after? We don't need any other details..

[desmondthethird]

I'm using Trental 400mg, 3 times/day. And I guess you could say I'm "megadosing" L-Citrulline as well as Magnesium. The tissue was severely stretched, very difficult to pinpoint how it got so bad.
It was in doggy position, and the female moved while I was inside. I felt sharp pain, I could keep going, however, with a good erection. I believe the Peyronie's onset came to life because of a series of minor traumas throughout my life tho, including that tragic sexual experience.
But that's just what I think, but I'm not sure.
Since November, 2019, an upwards bend has developed. I can feel a thin string of "plaque", I think it's called, along the shaft, also a more firm plaque near the glans. Both on the dorsal side.
My penis is immobilized and it shapes like a banana, pretty much. The harder the erection, the more severely, it bends.
My mind has been racing since that day, I'm not doing too well mentally at the moment.
I've been searching across the web, and it appears that it isn't too much to do (according to the government). I'm thinking of buying a DMSO, I've read a lot about it. And it feels very promising.
I also understand that's kind of your thing, melting? I've read your "DMSO + X" thread.
Sorry for typing so much, but I greatly appreciate your help.
- Desmond

[TonySa]

Be sure to read the survival guide fir the standard treatments which show success:  https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,3180.msg44057.html#msg44057

[melting]

It's ok you're in the right place here, lot's of people with different experiences dealing with this.
Sadly a lot of what our American friends can do we can't and our health services suck, especially regarding peyronies. You still should keep your doctors around for whatever you can get. Diagnostics are similar.

The trental should be slow release and thus you will get a constant release into your blood. Obviously if you have bad blood flow to your penis and the plaques it will not always reach it. But still take it.
That's the basic reason for me using supplements transdermally. To get it right to the plaques.
Magnesium(pure magnesium flakes or magnesium oil) is perfect for transdermal delivery, could even work without a transdermal agent like DMSO if you apply often and let it sit.
If you're interested in DMSO, inform yourself in this forum(search) and read some on google about it.

Hard palpable Plaques mostly develope months after an incident. Mostly not years after but of course prior injuries might play into it too.
So when was the initial injury incident? In November? Or did you only notice symptoms by then?
Cause if it's a fresh incident you're in the initial stage and that changes the approach and it would also not show calcifications, yet(!). Peyronies often progresses..

For now don't aggravate anything. Relax in some way and let healthy blood flow through your penis. Getting all tense and stressed will make it worse. You want to eat healthy and be healthy and make sure you don't interfer with the healing process, especially when the injury was in november.

Peyronies is in some way beatable for most. Worst case you have to take a flight to the US and get a good implant. But many get a usable penis without pain through other means after being diagnosed with Peyronies. Takes a lot of hustle though.
In my case daily transdermal applications and using an extender and VED for many months. I'm 99% functional now.
But you have to be smart about what and when you do it. Don't rush.

So please again, when was the initial injury? Pain, tender, feeling inflamed?
Are you otherwise healthy and fit?

[desmondthethird]

The injury that later caused the ultimate development of Peyronie's happened in early
November, yes. My curve got worse quickly but that must've been in mid December. Nothing has changed since then. My curve remains and like I mentioned earlier; the harder the erection the more difficult to push the erection down while erect.
I still have inflammation + I'm soar, but nothing is really getting worse, by the looks of it.
My penis also retracts in flaccid state, which causes a shorter penis.
Also, I've read about the molecular weight etc. and I wonder if DMSO mixed with Aloe Vera gel would do anything good? I'm in a bit of a money fix right now, but i believe I will buy even more things as soon as possible. Possibly both pure DMSO and a mix with Aloe Vera.
Lastly, I feel like I need to post pictures so you understand my situation a little bit better.
I guess I need to start a new topic then, since the limit here is 10 posts, correct?  
Thanks again for the help, you'll see me posting pictures in "Progression of Peyronies Disease" soon enough.
- Desmond

[melting]

I don't need pics, quiet clear your description. But do how you like.

The injury that later caused the ultimate development of Peyronie's happened in early
November, yes. My curve got worse quickly but that must've been in mid December. Nothing has changed since then.

I still have inflammation + I'm soar, but nothing is really getting worse, by the looks of it.

That means that you're most probably in the active stage. That means the body is dealing with the injury.
Problem is that the penis is harder to fix(by the body) than let's say an injured arm. No steady blood flow. Erections keeping the tissue aggravated. Fibrosis lingers which then accumulates material that later hardens. That hard faulty tissue messes then with the erection. But even soft it already messes with it. It's like putting glue onto the side of a balloon(can't expand there).

Don't push your penis down. Don't aggravate. Don't masturbate hard. Be careful with intercourse. Relax your pelvic floor(if it's tense it stops blood flow to the penis). Basically handle your penis like you would handle an injured hand. I think in this stage VED or traction is not good.
You need to get the inflammation down. Pentox helps with it but experience shows we need to tackle this from several angles.

Now if you have no means to get cialis etc. you can check for other supplements that increase blood flow. Gingko thins blood for example.
My DMSO+X thread is mostly about established peyronies right now but still applicable to the basics. So you might read it and ask specific questions. Aloe + DMSO is ok and can aid you as both are said to be anti inflamatory. DMSO+iodine(anti inflammatory) and DMSO+ascorbic acid(Vit C. important in healthy collagen forming) is IMO the go to at this stage. DMSO cost me 10 euro with some glasses to mix 10 euro and pure vitaminC powder 5 euro. Iodine idk.
If you get a dmso+aloe cream apply it several times a day.

Read the forums, lot's of possibilities, check what might apply to your situation.

[desmondthethird]

Thanks a lot melting, i've decided to purchase the Aloe-mix and apply it 2-3 times a day.
Or apply it once a day, and then apply pure Vit C oil once a day too, separated.
I feel like it's a good time to start DMSO treatment now, I have mild discomfort/pain everyday, so yes; I'm definitely in active phase.
Also, the DMSO Aloe mix I ordered appeared to be a 99% pure DMSO, but the container is 70% DMSO & 30% Aloe Vera.
I really don't care how long it takes to "get back normal", but I'll deal with this.
Thanks again
- Desmond  

[melting]

You can apply the vit c oil(never heard of that though cause vit c is normally water soluble and not oil soluble)
Before and then put the DMSO+aloe gel over it. That might ensure that some goes transdermal.
Maybe you mean magnesium oil?

99% dmso is about the quality. The rest is 7 of 10 parts dmso with 3 of 10 parts aloe.
Yes, takes a lot of discipline and time. I still have some small plaques that I'm now getting rid off. I always had results and improvement when I focused everyday for some weeks.(of course one can take a day off and get back to it)

[desmondthethird]

You're very inspiring in your texts, melting. That's a very good thing.
I meant Magnesium oil, correct. So would applying Magnesium Oil first and then later on apply the Aloe dmso mix, would that be the way to do it, perhaps?
I want everything to go transdermal to at least some extent.
How is your plaque acting now, melting? Is it still mobilized and softer than before you started? Or have they harden again?
- Desmond

[james1947]

As an introductory, this topic has ended.
Please continue the conversation on the adequate boards

James