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« on: December 29, 2019, 07:27:41 PM »

I developed it on my left side after an injury. It had started to narrow also after I got thrush. It was a minor injury so one could debate it was thrush which caused all my issues as my fore skin was extremely tight on the left side of my shaft.

Edit: I have had hour glassing, thinning, Erectile Dysfunction and a curve (the curve however was originally natural but got more pronounced from the Peyronies). I was very depressed for a few months until I found how to beat it. The hgh saved my life but it is expensive. I got it on the black market for 4/5 euros a unit which is cheaper than a clinic I believe.
I decided to log in as I’m very drunk this Xmas

Edit 2: cardio and magnesium enriched Creams with the coconut oil


Smoking tobacco is bad. Weed good. Folic acid, vitamin e and other supplements did not Come close to helping like sauna, IR and hgh.

Some of these things like stretching (mild stretching I found very beneficial) and using the Infra red light at different ranges and angles are skills
Cure is a combo of:
Sauna every day - I go everyday- hotter the better
Jacuzzi - seems to help - warm
Arginine megadose 3x3000 daily
Hgh (the key)
IR light therapy every day (key #2) - red light helps circulation, healing and IMO it breaks down scar tissue and massage with coconut oil
Viagra

I forgot to add to this list earlier (sorry I’m so scattered) but WEED helps a lot too but not entirely necessary when using all of the above
Yes it seems like overkill. But I’m 100% all of these will cure anyone unless they’re completely f'~c<+d...even then it’s probably possible with enough dedication.
The thing is...you improve daily and get more confidence

I’ll go into more detail If people want specifics. Hgh is human growth hormone. Testosterone combined helps. Yes I mean steroids.

Persist every day and you’ll beat it. Never ever give up.
You are welcome...
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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2019, 07:29:30 PM »

It’s all about improving circulation throughout the entire body and this will help your penis recover. It could happen in a few days or a few weeks depending on your severity.
I believe I can coach anybody to beat it.
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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2019, 07:34:29 PM »

There was some other thread about this at some point. Doesn't hgh cause over production of collagen (the opposite of what you want)?

That's great if it worked for you though. Congrats.
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2019, 07:36:26 PM »

Thanks for sharing. Why don't you post your entire protocol so maybe someone will try it and update to us? Thanks
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2019, 07:40:09 PM »

There was some other thread about this at some point. Doesn't hgh cause over production of collagen (the opposite of what you want)?

That's great if it worked for you though. Congrats.

Hgh - pharmaceutical grade - at least 3 units split up in two daily doses and testosterone propionate injected 3x/week if you want to CERTAIN to beat it. This will actually increase your erection size. I think the hgh also thickens the penis. Yes, I’m a Bodybuilder...
You must use infra red light at least every second day at close range - 1 foot or less and I used 250w bulb - better done twice daily for at least 15-20 mins

Sometimes I used infra red light for hours..at further distance
Trial and error...

I forgot something huge. COCONUT OIL

E45 works good too
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2019, 07:43:41 PM »

I can not pin it down to one thing. It’s a combination.

The most important was infra red and hgh and the coconut oil and possibly the weed it seems to make me really horny

Your dick will come back bigger and better
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2019, 07:58:42 PM »

Slight jelqing Also with the oils but be careful. You don’t want to make worse. Always be warmed up when massaging the schlong  ;D

Coconut oil helps with the scar tissue
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2019, 08:13:06 PM »

How much is a megadose of Arginine?
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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2019, 08:17:57 PM »

How much is a megadose of Arginine?

3x3000mg a day minimum
But I doubt it’ll help without hgh
Weed also helps - huge one for circulation
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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2019, 08:22:58 PM »

I think too much kegels are bad and made me develop a bit of hard flaccid
Kegels when erect seem to help
Reverse kegels more important - done especially when using IR light to increase blood flow dramatically
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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2019, 08:41:17 PM »

Are you talking about horny goat weed? Or marijuana?
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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2019, 08:43:12 PM »

Are you talking about horny goat weed? Or marijuana?

Mj

It helps Libido and circulation

I never tried that goat weed stuff
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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2020, 12:48:35 PM »

I agree on your points regarding circulation which many of your supplements and actions help with.
Peyronies is happening so easily in the penis cause it's often a spot that isn't well circulated by blood(compared to let's say an arm or leg) Then the body isolates the injured area cause it has not enough tools "at hand" to heal it properly. Blood vessels are also able to grow/extend into areas that are suitable.

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What do you propose is the function of HGH that solved your peyronies?

Did you have hard peyronies plaques?
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2020, 03:46:13 PM »

Hey Irish,

with HGH you mean somatropin right? How much HGH did you use?

Does it mean that new healthy tissue was built in your penis? would be unbelievable =)

I'm also on Testosterone Propionate (200-250mg) right now, and my dick feels a lot better overall.

Recently saw that video of a BB reporting positive effects of HGH on his dick as well : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmrXxATx_9g

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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2020, 09:50:25 PM »

Aquaintance22,  With all due respect, the guys in that link have the credibility of the Three Stooges with one of the Stooges missing.   Don't post links on the forum that have no evidentiary basis.
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« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2020, 02:07:26 AM »

Fully agree with hawk. That video is total crap. I don't even know where to start when it comes to comment on it.

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« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2020, 07:57:28 AM »

This was not supposed to bring up any scientific/empirical evidence.

If you browse the web, you'll find lot of anectdotal evidence for HGH leading to an increase in penis size.
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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2020, 10:02:50 AM »

I'm not an expert on this topic, but I googled a lot about HGH in the past and from what I understand it doesn't increase penis size in most males. It does happen some of the time, but on a normal dose it shouldn't happen. Same goes for other growth like your bone structure. Once you're done growing, it's over. However, if you inject a very high dosis you might experience growth, but most of the time it will be in the hands, feet and intestines (it's the reason some extreme bodybuilders have a very round belly) but those are not the kind of changes you want and can possibly leave you deformed for life. Like I said, not an expert, but I wouldn't try to take high dose HGH to increase penis size as you cannot know what it will affect and most likely it's not your penis.
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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2020, 11:32:02 AM »

I agree on your points regarding circulation which many of your supplements and actions help with.
Peyronies is happening so easily in the penis cause it's often a spot that isn't well circulated by blood(compared to let's say an arm or leg) Then the body isolates the injured area cause it has not enough tools "at hand" to heal it properly. Blood vessels are also able to grow/extend into areas that are suitable.
What do you propose is the function of HGH that solved your peyronies?

Did you have hard peyronies plaques?

Hgh does make your penis appear bigger but I’m not taking it for long enough to know if those changes are permanent and I highly doubt they would be unless megadosing of 10-15IU a day certainly is known to increase bone density, like in top pro bodybuilders.


But yes hgh has made my penis fuller
The hgh increases nitric oxide and when you combine with the rest it’s golden
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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2020, 11:48:18 AM »

Hey Irish,

with HGH you mean somatropin right? How much HGH did you use?

Does it mean that new healthy tissue was built in your penis? would be unbelievable =)

I'm also on Testosterone Propionate (200-250mg) right now, and my dick feels a lot better overall.

Recently saw that video of a BB reporting positive effects of HGH on his dick as well : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmrXxATx_9g

You are on the road to recovery it seems. I replied to your pm. At least 3iu (1.5x2) pharma
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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2020, 11:51:59 AM »

I'm not an expert on this topic, but I googled a lot about HGH in the past and from what I understand it doesn't increase penis size in most males. It does happen some of the time, but on a normal dose it shouldn't happen. Same goes for other growth like your bone structure. Once you're done growing, it's over. However, if you inject a very high dosis you might experience growth, but most of the time it will be in the hands, feet and intestines (it's the reason some extreme bodybuilders have a very round belly) but those are not the kind of changes you want and can possibly leave you deformed for life. Like I said, not an expert, but I wouldn't try to take high dose HGH to increase penis size as you cannot know what it will affect and most likely it's not your penis.

It’s not about increasing the size, it’s about improving the circulation down there. But the hgh does both in reality
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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2020, 12:28:58 PM »

This was not supposed to bring up any scientific/empirical evidence.

If you browse the web, you'll find lot of anectdotal evidence for HGH leading to an increase in penis size.

This forum is a case study in itself. We have several naysayers knocking hgh already. (by the way cardio is vital too to help the hgh work)

They know nothing. They’re experts at everything yet they have this disease and have no solutions. I’ve put forth several pieces to this jigsaw for you. Get your ass in the gym acquaintance!! Best of luck
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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2020, 01:19:17 PM »

I agree on your points regarding circulation which many of your supplements and actions help with.
Peyronies is happening so easily in the penis cause it's often a spot that isn't well circulated by blood(compared to let's say an arm or leg) Then the body isolates the injured area cause it has not enough tools "at hand" to heal it properly. Blood vessels are also able to grow/extend into areas that are suitable.
What do you propose is the function of HGH that solved your peyronies?

Did you have hard peyronies plaques?

I had no plaques but scar tissue
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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2020, 10:11:56 PM »

I had no plaques but scar tissue

So plaque is not scar tissue??  Where do you get your seeming limitless knowledge?
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« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2020, 09:19:19 AM »

So plaque is not scar tissue??  Where do you get your seeming limitless knowledge?

Listen pal,
You’re the one with the bionic dick. You obviously know more than me but what strategies have you put forward? I am here of my own will trying to help young guys fix their problem ASAP. Time is of the essence.

Your smart comments towards alternative treatments doesn’t look good for this place at all considering you’re the mod here.

I don’t have time to waste. I’ll reply to PMs from here on in. Aquintance is taking testosterone and having great results after only a few weeks...
Ever think I might be onto something?

No matter. I couldn’t care less. I’m going to go sooth my hangover now.

Oh yeah, my “limitless knowledge” was gained out of trying many things and reading over several months out of necessity to remedy my problem.
I don’t know it all. Not even a little. But I know what worked and why. And I am fairly certain my strategies can help almost anybody.
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« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2020, 09:38:20 AM »

Hawk,
I hope I haven’t offended you. Your heart is obviously in the right place as you set this forum up.
I know I come across very aggressive, because I am, and it doesn’t help sometimes however I genuinely want to help too as penis problems can ruin ones life.

You’re my fathers age so you “have your ways” and likely don’t deviate too much. Which is a good thing sometimes. However sometimes it can keep your thinking “inside the box” as one might say.

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« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2020, 11:24:27 AM »

Irishpeyroniecure: I told you yesterday, and going to repeat myself: stop posting nonsense and get your stuff together.

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« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2020, 12:02:02 AM »

Irishpeyronies,

You simply talk babble talk in many posts.  I am rather certain I have read more on Peyronies Disease than you ever knew existed.  I have almost surely spoken to more world-renown doctors.  I have and continue to gain decades of life experience.
You make bold statements without ANY SCRAP of evidence much less proof.  If someone comes here and says "I tried A B & C and my Peyronies Disease got better.  I think this worked because of "......" or "....."  that person gains some credibility.  You come here and you KNOW more than any human being yet You offer no proof or even evidence that you did not have a spontaneous remission.  We, in fact, have no proof you are not a teenage troll that never even had Peyronies Disease.

When a guy shows up having tried treatments, providing nothing more than his women's intuition on what worked, it carries little credibility.  When the more he talks the more certain he becomes it is a red flag that we are dealing with someone ignorant of deductive reasoning, standards of evidence, and rational thought.  When someone has such little confidence in what they are talking about that they get defensive, aggressive, and attack the poster rather than respond to questions, it is the sign of a blowhard.  Now, if you think you have something to offer, then act like it and respond with some maturity so people will not just laugh at you and dismiss whatever you have to say that is of worth.  I would hate for you to have a world break-through cure and be laughed off the forum for your lack of ability to present a sane, rational argument.

For instance, you seemed to suggest that plaque is not scar tissue.  I challenged that and you went on an off-topic rant about me rather than saying you misspoke or made a mistake, or explaining your point.

If you can cool off and think, you can try again.

Cheers!
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« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2020, 04:11:48 AM »

Aquintance is taking testosterone and having great results after only a few weeks...
Ever think I might be onto something?


Yep, I started taking test propionate a few weeks ago independently of Irish's propgram of course.


For myself, I can confirm that it helps, especially if you're T-levels are low. If you are normal and high naturally, maybe it won't have a huge effect. I assume it helps especially if you're in the acute phase.

I  will give HGH a try soon.
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« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2020, 05:35:24 AM »

How did you get the testosterone injections? Did you get it from a doctor or did you buy it yourself? And what where your levels before starting this and what dose do you take? My testosterone levels are at the low end too and I'm thinking of getting TRT, just gotta find a doctor willing to perscribe it to me.
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« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2020, 10:12:31 AM »

How did you get the testosterone injections? Did you get it from a doctor or did you buy it yourself? And what where your levels before starting this and what dose do you take? My testosterone levels are at the low end too and I'm thinking of getting TRT, just gotta find a doctor willing to perscribe it to me.

I got the T from the black market - there are plenty of shops both in the clearweb as well as in the darknet. Doctors in Germany are F^@$!ng conservative regarding hormone replacement therapy. You go in there with low-T symptoms and these dickheads prescribe you a SSRI right away, not even considering low T.

I got quite low T-levels between 270 and 400 ng/dl. The reference range lies from aroung 300ng/dl to 1000ng/dl roughly said.

I also prefer T-propionate due to it's short ester. It has a high bioavailability and kicks in fast. I don't think that any European doctors prescribe prop, they all prefer the long esters like enanthate, cypionate etc.

I use quite moderate doses - I inject 50mg of T-propionate EOD, I'll never do more than 250mg a week.

I will run this low-dose cycle for around 3 months. Than I'll do a PCT with clomid/tamox and see how my body and dick will react to it.

Plan to do more cycling in the future - but I always will stay in that dose range I guess.

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« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2020, 10:21:59 AM »

I would never recommend buying black market drugs. 
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« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2020, 10:42:46 AM »

Btw, regarding the HGH - I read some posts on thundersplace where users point out faster and larger PE gains with the use of GH.

So there's quite some anectodal, not empirical evidence on the web.
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« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2020, 11:06:15 AM »

These (steroids and hgh) have been around for many decades. Why hasn't this been "discovered" to be a cure for peyronie's yet? If it is a cure, why is it not being prescribed by doctors all over the world?
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« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2020, 11:36:16 AM »

It may not help with every form of peyronies. I can imagine that it won't fix a bad curve but helps to restore losses of girth for example.

That's what guys on thundersplace are experiencing: They done different enlargement techniques for example with and without HGH. And HGH works as an accelerator / catalyst of a treatment - it helps your body to adapt / repair at a faster pace. Of course it has it's downsides as well.

In my case, doctor's in Germany know crap about Peyronies. I cannot rely on approved medication - because there is none - so I think you have to try different things out - some work, some might not work.
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« Reply #35 on: January 13, 2020, 11:56:41 AM »

Btw, regarding the HGH - I read some posts on thundersplace where users point out faster and larger PE gains with the use of GH.

So there's quite some anectodal, not empirical evidence on the web.

Yeh, you find anecdotal evidence on the web for Big Foot, and asparagus as a miracle cancer cure.  Just because it is on the web does not make it false but it is such weak evidence that it would be more accurately called anecdotal accounts rather than anecdotal evidence.
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« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2020, 12:28:15 PM »

For me, that's enough to give it a try.

Seems more promising to me than a ton of useless OTC supplements.
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« Reply #37 on: January 13, 2020, 12:56:52 PM »

Keep us posted on your results. Who knows.
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« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2020, 01:35:24 PM »

Thanks for your reply. In holland it's the same. I'm also on the low range of testosterone just like you, but yeah, it's hard to get a perscription for it. I have been on TRT in the past and I also had to buy it online as no doctor was willing to perscribe me. Personally I never noticed much change in erections, but I did get a lot of muscle gain and overall felt better. I'll be discussing this again with a urologist, hope he'll be open minded about me starting TRT, as I don't want to have to rely on an illegal source anymore. It's strange that if your levels are in the 300's no doctor is willing to try TRT with you.
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« Reply #39 on: January 13, 2020, 03:41:18 PM »

Maybe the doc would habe given me some androgel, which I think is better than nothing.

Regarding TRT in Germ., the situation is often as follows:
a) Test-Enanthate injections every 2 weeks
or more often
b) Testosterone undecanoate injection which lasts up to 3 months

Especially undecanoate is an absolute joke in my opinion because I heard lot of guys suffer from tremendous fluctuations, you feel great in the beginning when you got your injection and than the more and more crappy  as you go towards the 3 months end.

That's the reason I'll stick you propionate. It also has a hald-life of max 36 hours. So if you want to, you can get it out of your system really fast if you experience bad side effects (e. g. acne, hair loss) for example. Enanthate takes up to 2-3 weeks to get out of your system.

But that's different preferences I guess.

Anyway, just ordered my GH.


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« Reply #40 on: January 13, 2020, 03:46:47 PM »

Many prefer the androgel option, especially if they don’t like needles.  I tried the 3 month injection but it’s actually is a very minor in office surgery (think implant below skin).  Now on T cypionate weekly.
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« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2020, 05:29:55 PM »

Yeah same here in holland. Either injections that are too spread apart or gel. At this point I'd be happy if I can get the gel though as I'm done playing doctor on my own and having to rely on an illegal source and be percieved as a "steroid user" even though all I wanted was high average levels. Wish me luck. I guess the gel would work just as well, just hope I can even get that. It sucks being borderline low cause I know I'll be on TRT one day anyway, yet doctors aren't willing to help and think it's fine as long as I'm 300 ng/dl.
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« Reply #42 on: January 16, 2020, 06:09:42 AM »

How did you get the testosterone injections? Did you get it from a doctor or did you buy it yourself? And what where your levels before starting this and what dose do you take? My testosterone levels are at the low end too and I'm thinking of getting TRT, just gotta find a doctor willing to perscribe it to me.

Top quality testosterone is available and also pharmaceutical grade growth hormone. If you want real help private message me I refuse to help anyone here in public from here on because of hawk and Samsung

Hawk and Samsung can go on and on looking for evidence etc. My evidence is knowing hundreds of athletes who use the stuff and report the same things. The most important case study being my own success 😁

Ignore my theories at your peril. I will not help anyone on this publicly now. Your loss “hawk”
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« Reply #43 on: January 16, 2020, 06:25:50 AM »

I would never recommend buying black market drugs.

They’re real products from pharmacies. Ones you’ll find hard to get a doctor to prescribe. That’s when people with will and guile go and find it for themselves to improve their lives. While others cry to their doctor and get surgery.
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« Reply #44 on: January 16, 2020, 06:29:51 AM »

Yeah same here in holland. Either injections that are too spread apart or gel. At this point I'd be happy if I can get the gel though as I'm done playing doctor on my own and having to rely on an illegal source and be percieved as a "steroid user" even though all I wanted was high average levels. Wish me luck. I guess the gel would work just as well, just hope I can even get that. It sucks being borderline low cause I know I'll be on TRT one day anyway, yet doctors aren't willing to help and think it's fine as long as I'm 300 ng/dl.

Gels do not work. Wasting your time. Man up and inject.
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« Reply #45 on: January 17, 2020, 12:34:06 PM »

Hawk and Samsung can go on and on looking for evidence etc. My evidence is knowing hundreds of athletes who use the stuff and report the same things. The most important case study being my own success 😁

That great IPC!  Can you name a dozen athletes and what they report for reference just so we can be sure you are not just some shill spamming the forum with misinformation?

I don't think you or anyone with any rational thought process would encourage people to just take controlled substances because an anonymous name on the internet suggests it.  Most people require some level of documented evidence of safety, effectiveness, and legality before looking for drugs to put in their bodies.
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« Reply #46 on: January 17, 2020, 12:46:19 PM »

Gels do not work. Wasting your time.

Do you mean gels do not increase your blood serum levels of the testosterone?  If so, how can you make such a statement when it has been consistently demonstrated in dozens if not hundreds of studies that topical applications do increase serum T.  I personally know 2 family members who have used it with clear results.  Or did you mean something else or do you have evidence that contradicts all of the other studies?  If so that would be very valuable information. 

Statements from anonymous men names on the internet have no value as you know.  That is also a fact I can prove in 15 seconds by registering a fake name and posting fake information with a declaration that I KNOW it is true.

Please have enough concern at getting your positive information out there that you show respect to your claims so others can show some respect for them.  That means stop taking offense that people ask for documentation or evidence from anonymous internet personalities.  If I have legitimate information I respect someone who is skeptical more than someone that just believes everything from anybody.  Taking offense has always been a sign of a fraud.



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« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2020, 07:06:55 PM »

Gels do not work. Wasting your time. Man up and inject.

I actually injected myself before cause I didn't get testosterone from a doctor, so that's not the problem.
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« Reply #48 on: January 18, 2020, 07:12:28 PM »

Top quality testosterone is available and also pharmaceutical grade growth hormone. If you want real help private message me I refuse to help anyone here in public from here on because of hawk and Samsung

Hawk and Samsung can go on and on looking for evidence etc. My evidence is knowing hundreds of athletes who use the stuff and report the same things. The most important case study being my own success 😁

Ignore my theories at your peril. I will not help anyone on this publicly now. Your loss “hawk”

Ok, thanks but I will try and get it perscribed from a doctor as I wouldn't wanna go the same route I did in the past. If I buy it illegally it will not be covered by insurance (not that shots are expensive) but I also don't want to be sneaky about it anymore. For example, if I ever compete in sports I don't wanna be labeled a steroid user. Or even towards my doctors, I don't wanna be seen as a "steroid user" when in reality I have a problem that they can fix. Maybe if I don't get it from a doctor I'll go my own way, but for now I'll wait till my appointment with my urologist.
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« Reply #49 on: January 18, 2020, 07:19:17 PM »

They’re real products from pharmacies. Ones you’ll find hard to get a doctor to prescribe. That’s when people with will and guile go and find it for themselves to improve their lives. While others cry to their doctor and get surgery.

Are you suggesting testosterone can cure peyronies? Cause in my experience it doesn't. The benefits I got where increased strenght and muscles, more energy, more confidence and a better mood. But my peyronies symptoms didn't really change. Maybe other people like yourself will have different experiences and maybe the HGH does have an impact. But testosterone alone doesn't cure peyronies at least not in my experience. I still want to take testosterone for the other benefits it had on me, though. Also, the gels should be just as effective as shots, but I agree that it doesn't work for everybody. The advantage of gel is that it keeps your blood levels more stable, but the shots give you greater muscle gains (which seems weird to me when the blood levels are the same). At this point I'd be happy to try gels as long as it helps.
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