Edygio Technique, MOST/MUST and Other Similar Surgeries

[Torontobased]

Has anyone had the types of procedures mentioned above, or some other variation of the more complicated and radical surgeries that typically see length and girth get significantly gained instead of lost? I am looking into travelling to the U.S. for surgery down the road and am interested in which doctors offer these procedures and what experiences people on this site have had versus what in described in the studies that get shared. The doctors I usually see talked about on this site (Levine, Eid, Yafi, Lue) people don't seem to mention performing these procedures, is there a reason for that or do they only under very special circumstances? I feel as though if I have to go under the knife, I may as well commit fully to the options that give me the best chance of coming out of it with as much size as possible.  

I have been in the active stage for two years and over that time rather than slowing down to this day the rate of symptom progression is only speeding up. I do not have a bothersome curve, one is present but it doesn't prevent intercourse, however with the rate that the length and especially the girth of my penis are decreasing at alongside the increase instability of an hourglass indent at the base I fear it's only a matter of time before I am not only not functional but also minuscule. I am probably half the size I used to be. Due to the rates of ED that are projected from grafting surgeries if I fail Xiaflex to help correct my deformities, which my uro has told me is a slim to none chance with the specifics of how I've been affected, I want to proceed with a procedure that gives me the best chance of regaining lost dimensions if an implant plus grafting surgery is the route I am heading down anyways. Since these procedures usually see length loss as well, I want one that will give a good chance of gains instead. I realize I will not get back to pre-peyonies size, but if I can even get back to the size I was four months ago I would be happy. Traction has only made me much worse, oral medication has done nothing to slow, stop or reverse the progression and the vacuum device I felt was making things worse as well. I need there to be an option where I regain some meaningful amount of size.  

[kusher]

same here. no curvature. just narrowing and shaft constriction which affects the stability of the penis. next week I have an appointment with dr egydio himself in brazil to address this abnormality. most likely he will induce an erection and see if am eligible for grafting surgery or any surgery that can restore the stability without an implant

stay tuned  

[Benjamin62]

Dr Brian Christine has a grafting technique for hour glassing. He's in Alabama... learned it from Tom Lue in California. I am traveling to see him in Jan for Plication and grafting.
He shows the surgery on his you tube channel... "Dr Brian Christine"

[Torontobased]

Hi Benjamin,

Is there expected to be any girth/length restoration from that procedure, or just deformity correction?

Hi Kusher,

I thought with Edygio's procedures they only advised it with IPP placement due to the expected ED rates?

[popopo]

It's supposed to (re)gain lenght/girth and often used combined with a prothesis. I thought about this as well as I'm very concerened about the size I lost, but I haven't spoken to many people who had the procedure done so I'm not sure it works as well as advertised. If it does I'd definitely have it done and I believe many more guys that lost size and want it back should look into this. I mean.. if you're going to end up with an implant anyway, might as well maximize size too, right? I can imagine it has more risk though. I hope more people who have experience with the procedure will post here.  

[kusher]

I think implant surgery for 20 y/o is really not a solution. do not fall into this trap. there is no way back. if more than 50% if ur penis has scarring or fibrosis with extensive ED then yah go for an implant. if u have 60%-70% functional penis then keep searching for a solution and work for it.

the only reason am going to brazil to egydio ( lucky me I have the last appointment with him in 2019 literally ) is that there are members on this forum who repaired their hourglass/hinging with surgery with excellent results ( the members are, dfurman    csm101 ) without implant whatsoever.

I was actually heading to to dr.brian Christine but then changed my mind to dr.egydio when I watched this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diiTs_jiXAQ  but I might visit Christine later on

for those who did not have a proper clinical examination by a specialist, wake up and check urself out. forums are beneficial but I think the most important thing to do is first to undergo a penile doppler ultrasound by an expert so he can tell u based on the results what solutions might work for u.

man I went to the states, Serbia, Canada etc.. none of the world class surgeons recommended the doppler and they said it is waste of time and money bla bla bla

I think this is a big fallacy. I believe the doppler ultrasound is critical cuz it lets the specialist recognize what he is dealing with. so yeah part of going to egydio is cuz of the advancement of the assessment process.

I will post how it goes and what advice he gives in terms of treatment of non curvature penile deformities which is the most challenging aspect in the field of urogenital surgery  

[Pfract]

You'll post pictures of when you are there kusher?

[kusher]

Hey folks,

Am here in the beautiful city of sau paulo. After 14hours from now is my appointment with dr egydio. I'll document my experience cuz I know alot of u are experiencing similar condition. Hourglass/hinging with no curvature. When u have 75% functional penis and 25% dysfunctional, what do u do as a surgeon?  Destroy the whole penis and insert an implant or try to fix the 25% with a graft patch without neuvascular bundle mobilization like the ETG procedure?

All these questions will be asked along with the detailed penile assessment. Be right back  

[TDix]

Nothing but good vibes to you bud

[kusher]

Thanks tdix!!

All the way up  

[kusher]

The judgement day is 1hour from now.

I just got this WhatsApp msj from dr egydio

( Hello, today we will see you in a face to face consultation, I am Dr. Paulo Egydio. This is your direct communication channel with me.

After your exam today, it is important to know that if you have a prolonged erection for more than three hours, you should immediately notify me through this contact.

Anyway, I am available to answer any questions that may arise. The amount of information you will receive is large and so it is normal to need some clarification.

This is my WhatsApp, if you need to, I will be very happy to help you. )  

[melting]

That above sounds great. I imagine asking my doctor in germany about a whatsapp contact lol. (socialism sucks)

I have been in the active stage for two years

THAT is a huge problem which should be addressed first! Is there any underlying issue that keeps you in that state?(blood tests etc.)
My worry would be, how the body would react to a surgery if you're still in active stage..

[kusher]

dr egydio told me there is no way to fix a penis that has bad ratio of length/girth. even though he is the master of penile grafting surgeries, he is really against it. he said penile graft is not a good option since the inserted graft does not have blood supply like the healthy tunica albungia. for those who have girth issues, erection pills is the way to go

however if the discrepancy between the length and girth is severely impacting erection quality and sexual intercourse then he recommends total penile reconstruction. this reconstruction includes implant insertion, length and girth restoration

am not sure but I believe he is one of the few surgeons in this world that can increase girth and length while implanting

for me I would say F~@< that crap. I will never ever go through a surgery on my penis again. never! I will keep living with 70%-80% functional penis with some complementary pills till the medical field advances and new solutions emerge

if ur like me, with a straight penis and 75% functionality, I urge u to do the same  

[kusher]

just got in contact with dr.tom lue regarding my unilateral indentation/shaft constriction.

by tom lue -------> Are you able to feel a lump at the area of narrowing? If yes,Xiaflex is the choice. If not, grafting is indicated.

Sent from my iPhone




Hello Dr.Tom Lue,

I previously sent you pictures of my case. Basically I have a straight penis with unilateral narrowing/hinging. This unilateral shaft constriction is severely impacting the axial rigidity of the penis.

Is extra-tunical grafting a good option for me?

Sincerely,  

[Godisreal]

What if you've got small lumps that come and go surrounding the entire tunica, causing narrowing?
Wouldn't VED pump these lumps, ultimately to healthy tissue? Seems a bit ratchet too put a syringe in my dick for soft lumps... as I wouldn't call them plaque's either.  

[Jack1909]

The very question these doctors should answer to is the following: people who undergo all the steps they indicate will end up with a penis or not? Or the point is just having an hard cylinder to put into a vagina? The less the better, if someone had told me in the first place my life would be largely different by now.  

[Godisreal]

Did you get surgery, Jack? If so, how did you case look right before the procedure? And what was the outcome?

[Torontobased]

Hi Kusher,

Would you be able to have him clarify what he means by bad ratio of length to girth? There seems to be scarring at multiple points all along both sides of my penis, it seems like multiple small lumps and plaques that have significantly reduced girth by maybe about half. My length has been affected as well by perhaps 1.5cm but the girth I've lost is easily 2cm and still progressing rapidly. Is there a percentage of girth that he can confidently say most of his patients gain through his procedures? At this point I don't believe much of my penis is healthy tissue anymore and that I am progressing to being non-functional as well as small. I would be very interested to hear any numbers he has about girth being regained as most studies I've found that reference his techniques and work only mention length. Also, would you be able to confirm the rates of necrosis from the more complicated surgeries he's performed?

Hi Melting,

I keep asking but the doctors don't suggest any tests and basically just shrug when I bring it up, I am very angry and frustrated that they only seem to care about injecting me in the stable phase when clearly there is something else going on with me that they have no desire to find out. I've learned that there's little point going to a doctor's office if I don't already know what's happening to me, I used to have a lot of faith in the medical profession but now not so much. Hell I wasn't referred to a urologist for a year and a half, nothing prescribed, and when I saw the guy I was referred to he knew less about peyronies than I did. Never has prescribed pentox in his life and wanted to put me on a waitlist for 8 months to see another urologist. That was the moment i realized trusting these people was a mistake and started to seriously take my treatment into my own hands, not that it's done me much good though.  

[melting]

Hi Melting,

I keep asking but the doctors don't suggest any tests and basically just shrug when I bring it up,

Oh congrats, another guy suffering from socialist medicine. At least you are not that far from the promised land..Just a ferry ride I assume  
Seriously,a big blood check is necessary. If you want an operational procedure and you have a possible bad wound healing issue that would be bad.
I can at least game the system here in Germany and visit several docs and then hope I get one who tests or prescribes what I want. They have yearly amounts of possible procedures for every doctor.  

Try to find a way to get to the bottom of this.