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Paolo

Xiaojin Pill could reduce fibrosis in the CC by decreasing the expressions of MMPs, NOS and MDA, and by increasing the activity of SOD. Therefore, Xiaojin Pill might be a therapeutic option for Peyronies Disease.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11655-019-3203-7
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Dabbydu

Interesting as far as I can see it's widely used in Chinese medicine off a a quick google search so it should be a fairly safe trial. I'd give this a go if I can find the pills

Edit: found them, ordered.
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samsung

Where? I forget if we can have links. Please PM me if not. Thanks.
45 y.o. Single. Onset of symptoms (pain-stinging like a wasp) @ 6/2018. No sudden injury. Curve developed slowly. 40 deg. dorsal. Hourglassing. Torsion to left flaccid. 4 rounds xiaflex. Restorex, DMSO+, heat, arginine, cialis, lipoic acid, vit. K2

Dabbydu

Well cancel that, I'm going to need to find another source. Customer service wrote me and said the trade war with China has forced us out of stock and we are discontinuing it  
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NeoV

I saw this the day it popped up on pubmed, but wasn't too sure what to think of it. A lot of supplements increase SOD, not too sure! But any studies on supplements get a thumbs up from me.

Godisreal

Dabbydu, any update yet? Did you find an online-pharmacy? And if so, have you received the pills?  
I'm eager to hear more about this.
30 degree dorsal curve, immobility and heavy loss of girth.
My body seems to get very inflamed when I masturbate too often or eat unhealthy.
Using antioxidants, Pentox and hirudoid cream, as well as manual traction, heat and Cialis.

Dabbydu

Nothing to update, I couldnt find a supplier that looked legit. One of the ingredients is dangerous in larger doses so after the american company bowed out of production it left very little in the way of reliable options.
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hope794

What is  Xiaojin Pill ? Can someone please explain it to me? Thanks guys!
26 yo from Italy.
Peyronie's since abt 2014
Abt 20-25° bend, w/ a moderate twist to the left
ED for 4 years and getting worse
From pornstar-like to moderately depressed - still fighting for a solution.

Pfract

Don't know about you guys, but i woudn't consume anything medical coming from china.

Dabbydu

Medical I'm not worried, herbal unregulated is a different story
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Godisreal

just because it's chinese doesn't mean it's automatically weird and not working. Sad to hear your opinion on Chinese products, pfract. There's a lot of hidden gems around the world that doesn't involve the western nature. It wouldn't surprise me if a cure for Peyronie's already exists deep down in an Asian laboratory.  
30 degree dorsal curve, immobility and heavy loss of girth.
My body seems to get very inflamed when I masturbate too often or eat unhealthy.
Using antioxidants, Pentox and hirudoid cream, as well as manual traction, heat and Cialis.

hope794

What is  Xiaojin Pill ? Can someone please explain it to me? Thanks guys!
26 yo from Italy.
Peyronie's since abt 2014
Abt 20-25° bend, w/ a moderate twist to the left
ED for 4 years and getting worse
From pornstar-like to moderately depressed - still fighting for a solution.

Pfract

Yes a cure exists, but hasn't been shared with the west. It continues hidden front people, so only Chinese know about it while the rest of the world suffers.  

Godisreal

Your statement is gonna look very stupid the day stem cells becomes FDA-approved and cure you. Stem cells is something that already is heavily scouted. While it's success isn't radical enough to enter the human territory, I can't help but to think some underdog country already is one step ahead. A good example is Japan, a country that seems to be 50 years ahead of the rest of the world in a lot of things.  
30 degree dorsal curve, immobility and heavy loss of girth.
My body seems to get very inflamed when I masturbate too often or eat unhealthy.
Using antioxidants, Pentox and hirudoid cream, as well as manual traction, heat and Cialis.

howtheheck

I started taking Xiaojin Wan about a week ago.  However I used only 3 pills a day to see if I got any negative reaction.  The box actually says in Chinese 3-7 pills twice a day, meaning up to 14 pills a day.  Not many are sold here in China in pill form.  Typically they are in granular or pellet (Wan) form.  I tried one day in pellet form and it is easier to take.  I just pour into a glass the packets, then let them slide in my throat and wash it down with water.  Traditionally Chinese break up the pellets and drink as a tea.  

I also just started going to a TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) doctor.  She is focusing more on my inflammation with acupuncture and cupping since acute stage has more inflammation vs. chronic and I am still in acute stage.  She thinks Xiaojin Wan is more for chronic but is ok with me upping my dose.

Today I start the 14 pills a day and I will probably switch to the pellets after the pills run out since they are easier to buy in every Pharmacy.  I am not expecting much but at the same time hopeful....I think you all know what I mean....If I see  any progress in 30 days, or until the TCM doctor says to stop...afterwards I will let you know.
56 years old.  Westerner (Expat) living in China, Single, 4/21 start. Various natural topicals & orals, will use home ESWT machine.  05/24 started TCM with TCM herbs acupuncture.  06/02/21- Restorex, also noticed slight dorsal curve late 06/21

samsam

37yo. Started July 2020. Inflammation, pain and ED are the biggest issues. Small but almost unnoticable to left. Currently on Q10, Pentox and Ginko.

howtheheck

Sorry for the delay.  Absolutely no effect to date.  I am still taking the max. daily dosage.  The rats took it for 28 days, and me just a little bit longer....So I guess the only thing it proves for now is I am not a rat:)

I will tell you it is expensive (in terms of Chinese medicine) and not hard to get but the packaging comes in less than a day supply.  Also even though my TCM doctor says it is more for chronic vs. acute which is what I am still in- I am still taking it.
56 years old.  Westerner (Expat) living in China, Single, 4/21 start. Various natural topicals & orals, will use home ESWT machine.  05/24 started TCM with TCM herbs acupuncture.  06/02/21- Restorex, also noticed slight dorsal curve late 06/21

Pfract

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Your statement is gonna look very stupid the day stem cells becomes FDA-approved and cure you. Stem cells is something that already is heavily scouted. While it's success isn't radical enough to enter the human territory, I can't help but to think some underdog country already is one step ahead. A good example is Japan, a country that seems to be 50 years ahead of the rest of the world in a lot of things.

@Godisreal: Well... fast forward a considerable amount of time and just look at "howtheheck". Doesn't seem like is results have been too favourable.

howtheheck

Is a little over 1 month of taking  the medicine a "considerable amount of time" in most eyes here?  I also have doubts but I will at least give it a real try before I say that it is not worth it.  Try to stay positive -I am your guinea pig and your wallet on this experiment:)
56 years old.  Westerner (Expat) living in China, Single, 4/21 start. Various natural topicals & orals, will use home ESWT machine.  05/24 started TCM with TCM herbs acupuncture.  06/02/21- Restorex, also noticed slight dorsal curve late 06/21

howtheheck

Just giving final feedback.  I took 3 grams twice a day up until end of December 2021.  This amount is suggested as the max but also it is not indicated for peyronies (for other fiberous issues, but not peyronies).  I saw no results so I decided to take the same amount in relation to my weight vs. what was given to the rats.  I also did so for 27 days.  I can tell you I saw no results.  I will not take this anymore.  Sorry I could not give you guys any better news.
56 years old.  Westerner (Expat) living in China, Single, 4/21 start. Various natural topicals & orals, will use home ESWT machine.  05/24 started TCM with TCM herbs acupuncture.  06/02/21- Restorex, also noticed slight dorsal curve late 06/21

westerntown

Do not apologize. What you did was more than most. Thank you for your efforts
20, late 2020 masturbation injury leads to semi erect hourglass, then try manual stretching leads to pudendal neuralgia like symptoms, corpus spongiosum and glans do not fill, severe ed- floppy unstable erections that feel like water balloon .