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Re: DMSO+X Revisited 2019
« Reply #350 on: January 31, 2021, 09:52:28 PM »

Yeah I don’t know what’s going on. There’s a dull ache in the left part of the scrotum... and it’s based off nothing, really. I hate being afraid all the time. I can’t focus on what I want because of all these goddamn issues. Jan, I’m trying to soften the plaque of my penis causing the curve.
The skin rash and discomfort I had is gone but what’s left is a dull ache, like I said.
Yeah, Luis but didn’t you get the rash on the penis? Mine was on my precious ballsack.
There’s only one more important body part than the penis, and that’s the ballsack and the jewels.
It also seems like I completely forgot to clean the water through filters before mixing with everything too; because y’all did that, didn’t you? Well, i didn’t.
So I might have some metals and toxins in my ballsack as well. I’m actually laughing right now.
This whole thing is a massive joke.
Don’t know if I should laugh or cry.
Anyway, if I’m infertile then jokes on me i guess. The whole life is just a massive joke anyway, and the Earth will keep rotating even if Godisreal can’t have kids ahahaha
Appreciate the help tho fellas
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My body seems to get very inflamed when I masturbate too often or eat unhealthy.
Using antioxidants, Pentox and hirudoid cream, as well as manual traction, heat and Cialis.

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Re: DMSO+X Revisited 2019
« Reply #351 on: January 31, 2021, 11:33:54 PM »

You mentioned, "And DMSO is considered dangerous to cells in amounts more than 0,5% purity." - please provide your source of proof for this.  That is quite a claim.

Also, just try to relax my friend.  I know this all sucks, but trust me, getting too excited and upset can lead to mistakes and oversights and lack of focus. 
Try to approach this in a more methodical, careful, calm, step by step approach.  I know its not easy, but doing it more this calm way can lead to more success.  Stress can cause problems with your health so just keep that in mind and try to relax and do this step by step and see now things go. 
Youre in a good place.  this forum. 

As for your balls, separate them from the liquid in various ways.  be creative.  I believe glass or porcelain cups or bowls dont react to DMSO.  Use those for your balls in some way to keep them away from the dmso mix. 

Good luck man.  I have been all through this and I feel ya brother.  Try various other things that worked for others to, other than dmso.  Also get  healthy, so your body can be stronger to fix itself and also have a healthy chemistry inside your body and penis to avoid making plaque material. 

Good luck.
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Re: DMSO+X Revisited 2019
« Reply #352 on: February 01, 2021, 02:54:36 PM »

Godisreal
I started to notice burning on the beginning of my scrotum so it seems you arent the only one, however i wiped it off and the pain was gone, i dilute the dmso with voltaren, i wondered why you use water instead voltaren?
Anyway voltaren alone never gave me scrotum pain, maybe if you will stop with dmso then consider that

Id probably put aloe vera on my scrotum if this was happening to me
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Re: DMSO+X Revisited 2019
« Reply #353 on: February 01, 2021, 09:48:09 PM »

voltaren was taken off the market in some areas for some reasons.  Something to do with the heart.  Perhaps google it just be sure guys.
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Re: DMSO+X Revisited 2019
« Reply #354 on: February 03, 2021, 11:12:42 PM »

In Canada? Or what? It’s very much on the market in many countries (whole EU)
Is Diklofenac bad? Seems like it would be good.
Asphyxia, why do you not use water?
Does DMSO get the heat reaction with Voltaren, u mean?
That’s good then. How much Voltaren do you use  in your mix?
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Re: DMSO+X Revisited 2019
« Reply #355 on: February 04, 2021, 03:55:38 AM »

I dont use water because i see it as a wasted potential of mixing dmso with something anti inflmmatory,
I put some black seed oil too and im eyeballing everything, but id say the dmso is around 40% and voltaren 30%
I use the 4% concentration voltaren

Im starting to think the scrotum burning/pain is from traction because i can get it after few hours too.

When i first used voltaren alone it was a cooling sensation,
Which i feel less after mixing
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Re: DMSO+X Revisited 2019
« Reply #356 on: February 09, 2021, 08:48:57 PM »

I think something is really wrong with my scrotum and my testicles.
Still have discomfort and weird bubbling sensations in my scrotum weeks after accidentally putting DMSO on my balls.
Then I remembered months back when I thought it would be okay to put a dmso-mix on and then go on with my day lol, that ended up in stinging pain. Clearly black-dyed underwear got transferred into my before-this Godsend dick.
This is a mess, honestly. These threads made me believe I could beat my Peyronie’s and I ended up f*cking with my fertility instead. This is really f*cking with my mental right now
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Re: DMSO+X Revisited 2019
« Reply #357 on: February 10, 2021, 01:35:32 AM »

Honestly I have never heard of anyone having a problem with it in that way and trust me, if it ever did affect someones ability to have babies, you would have heard about it from many sources no doubt by now.  That would be HUGE news.
dmso can affect different people in different ways.  some can nearly pickle their dick in the stuff, some paint it all over and some use a tiny bit and get a bad reaction.
I find you dont need a high concentration of it and I only put it on the scar tissue area and only for 15 to 20 min then I tap it dry and leave it on for the night and shower in the morning but it is nearly dry after I pat it dry.  If I use higher concentrations and leave on longer, I cant poop for 5 days LOL.  Thats no fun on the 6th day I tell ya! LOL  trust me, a little goes a long way and it can soak in deeeeeeep. 

I dont think you need to worry.  you probably just burned your skin in a medium way and that sometimes takes a long time to heal.   Your boys down there are probably ok.  You can go for a test to see if you swimmers are ok.

Just chill and use less dmso and only put on the affected area.  be creative with how you can separate your meatballs from your noodle :)
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Re: DMSO+X Revisited 2019
« Reply #358 on: February 10, 2021, 09:59:46 AM »

Then I remembered months back when I thought it would be okay to put a dmso-mix on and then go on with my day lol,

I don't know if you can put DMSO on your penis and go on with your day...
I could stand a maximum of 10 minutes with DMSO on my penis. It burns really bad (I used, for some days, a cream containing 70% DMSO and 30% aloe vera and it still very strong). I gave up DMSO.

I'm gonna make a cream using Pentravan + Pentoxyfilline (and Curowhite). Maybe I've missed it, but I have not seen people trying to mix pentox + DMSO or another formulation. This seems an interesting idea.

Pentravan is not popular in USA I think cause I haven't seen people here talking about it, but in Brazil urologists recommend pentravan + verapamil.

"Pentravan® is an oil-in-water emulsion base that uses liposomal technology to ensure effective and proven transdermal drug delivery*. Pentravan® is a fragrance-free vanishing cream, providing an elegant skin feel."
https://fagron.com/en/concept/pentravanr#:~:text=Pentravan%C2%AE%20is%20an%20oil,Ready%2Dto%2Duse
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Re: DMSO+X Revisited 2019
« Reply #359 on: February 10, 2021, 04:03:35 PM »

I appreciate the words there, Tom.
I visited the doc today; but unfortunately, in Sweden, a big chunk of doctors here are from foreign countries because of Sweden’s insane migration-politics.
My doc barley understood me and he ended up prescribing me some anti-inflammatory pills (like ibuprofen but stronger). I’m not surprised, however, that he wasn’t to any help.
I’ll try to remain calm and get through this. Hopefully my ballsack will go back to “normal” sooner rather than later.
God bless you, man.
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Re: DMSO+X Revisited 2019
« Reply #360 on: February 10, 2021, 08:54:34 PM »

I agree, i highly doubt you did any sort of permanent damage. After burning my skin a bit i just rested for about a week and applied a lot of lotion, aloe vera, and castor oil.

I'm now back to applying DMSO every day.
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Re: DMSO+X Revisited 2019
« Reply #361 on: February 11, 2021, 06:32:09 PM »

Thanks Luis. I did urine and blood test and they didn’t see inflammation, but there’s no way a poke in the finger can see the inflammation in my penis, is there? Lol, I doubt it.
I’m gonna do a testosterone test in a few weeks as well, to see if the production down there is all right.
It’s incredibly energy draining worrying about this as well as Peyronie’s.
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« Reply #362 on: February 20, 2021, 10:31:41 PM »


The current solution I’m using was originally made the great melting.
It’s very sad to see that he hasn’t been online for so long because he got banned for some nonsense.
Horrible decision by the admins. He is, without a doubt, one of the most important people in the history of this forum.

Agree, Meltings posts were on point. i Follow his solution as well with Vit C. As for storage, When everything is mixed, I dont think there is an issue with temps. I would avoid Hot rooms. but DMSO alone should not be stored in the fridge or below 65 deg F as it will solidify.

How is your progress? It is cumbersome for me and work. But ive started back up. Stay strong
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Re: DMSO+X Revisited 2019
« Reply #363 on: February 20, 2021, 10:39:43 PM »

Does DMSO react with cotton? 100% cotton-underwear? (white)

That is fine. I personally use Q tips. but any cotton swab applicator will do. for a while I was using paintbrushes with a special brush but got sketched with the metal part that binds the brush to the wooden part.

The book I read that Melting suggested really describes a ton of gold knowledge about DMSO. Its called DMSO: NAtures healer or something like that. I did make a post about DMSO and mentioned the book. Great book and helped me guide my usage.
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« Reply #364 on: February 20, 2021, 10:56:29 PM »


I’ve had scrotum-discomfort since yesterday because I accidentally got some DMSO on my balls while treating my penis. Really fkn annoying, to be honest. 
Would a thick white cloth be okay to place on my balls? To avoid DMSO coming onto my balls?
Or would this react with dmso? I can’t find sh*t about this online even after reading 5 full articles about “DMSO, Risks & Uses” etc etc.
What should I do? Please give me some insight, lads, so I can stop having this ridiculous problem.
Thanks

Hard to say where the testicular discomfort is coming from. You could discontinue for a week or so and see what happens with the pain. When I apply my solution it is strictly DMSO, VitC, and castor oil. and it runs all over my balls. I sit on a plain white towel and cover my shaft in the solution. it gets on my balls and the blanket, but I havent had any pain. Ill sit and apply for an hour if i have the time. then wash off after. xanthan shouldnt cause any pain as it is a neutral substance
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Re: DMSO+X Revisited 2019
« Reply #365 on: March 05, 2021, 06:09:53 PM »

I’m glad that you decided to add that last message, Holistic.
Because, extraordinarily, I’m sitting here a month later with testicular discomfort and weird sensations that goes on every day. Checked with the doc and they’ve noticed nothing weird (surprise surprise), but hopefully I’ll get an appointment for ultra sound as well.
As I might’ve stated earlier, it started off with a nasty rash which subsided fairly quickly. But I’ve now noticed a shrinkage of my right testicle; fortunately, I do not care about these things anymore, but it sure is weird.
Not sure if the testicle will remain shrunken or if it will return, but time will tell.
Interesting how you said “it got all over your balls”, and you had no adverse effects.
I’m thinking my bad reaction might’ve been caused by the warm shower water I stepped into after application to wash everything off. My ignorance at its essence, I guess.
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« Reply #366 on: March 07, 2021, 11:33:48 AM »

My balls are now the size of peanuts and I can see my skin is still damaged.
This is just a “wow” moment.
How did this sh*t even happened? Not only is my dick crippled, now my sperm-factory is in jeopardy. And why? Because I put faith into DMSO + X?
And I didn’t do anything different from anyone else.
F*ck me honestly lol. This is devastating.
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Re: DMSO+X Revisited 2019
« Reply #367 on: March 12, 2021, 12:23:45 AM »

Godisreal, testicles can change shape and size for various reasons, but I dont think your balls should shrink like that so do look into it.
Maybe youre more sensitive to certain substances. Also, it could be unrelated to dmso.
Did you do a bunch of Testosterone shots in the past?  that can shrink the boys for awhile. 
If never used Testosterone, then ask doctor to check your hormones, not just T but other things to.  See if the numbers come back normal.
If you have high Cortisol, that can affect Testosterone and other things.  Cortisol s released when people get stressed or for other reasons.  fight or flight kinds of things to.
check into that.  Maybe anaylze your diet more or examine any changes in sleep patterns or if you get too warm sometimes when sleeping late at night...etc.
Let us know how it goes.
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« Reply #368 on: March 18, 2021, 06:50:35 AM »

Thanks for the message, Tom.
I genuinely do not understand how I’m still in pain and discomfort after almost 2 months.
I just tried to better my condition following basic instructions, and I’m left with more problems.
It’s so depressing it’s out of this world.
After the application I showered and that triggered another skin reaction with the DMSO, causing a rash that subsided after 2 days.
And yet I’m left with shrinkage and discomfort and I don’t even f*cking know why.
It’s not like I can tell the docs “Yeah, I put an organic solvent on my balls while trying to better a condition old men get called Peyronie’s... that I’m not even diagnosed with” LOL
That last part is not a surprise tho. The docs suck.
But damn, I’m in a deep hole here.
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« Reply #369 on: April 23, 2021, 01:18:48 AM »

Update regarding DMSO and reproductive toxicity:

My semen is now watery and that is often a sign of low sperm count.
I still have chronic pain in my scrotum 3 months after I got DMSO on my ballsack and then washed it off. For those of you that haven’t seen my previous posts in this thread, a major skin-reaction came after washing it off in the shower. This resulted in a nasty rash, and now, 3 months later chronic pain and watery semen.

Absent user @melting used to claim a lot of things about DMSO, for example that DMSO only has one reaction with water (this is false). I would never ever advise anyone to use this on their penis, and near their testicles. My DMSO-solution was very runny so that’s why it sipped down a little on my balls back then.
But I still believe it’s the skin reaction caused by the warm shower water and the DMSO that has ultimately caused me chronic pain and now watery sperm. There’s some kind of chronic damage to my scrotum. It clearly has effected my testicles as well.
There’s a possibility that both my testosterone and semen quality have been damaged.
Did an ultrasound on my testicles a few weeks ago, and nothing was wrong, said the doc.
I’m gonna have both my testo-levels and my sperm count checked within the next week to see what’s going on. I’m not gonna race to conclusions until then.

There are countless threads of scientists discussing the toxicity of DMSO, as well as how misunderstood it is. Now when I’ve read about it more, I do not understand how anyone in their right mind would preach and tell people to use an organic solvent on their penis. It’s bizarre.
Me as a young man, however, often listens to older people because I believe they have more wisdom; and that’s often true, but not always.

I’m typing this so people don’t make the same mistake I did.
It is of course my fault that I trusted the well made threads and explanations on the forum, and chose not to make extensive research regarding DMSO’s toxicity.
I guess I did what everybody else did, but yet I’m the only one with this issue.
There’s clear evidence that organic solvents has a very negative impact on male fertility, and there’s literally evidence that DMSO causes clear cell toxicity at a certain point.
And yet, the man who preached about this didn’t include one single warning regarding these things.
He did say “be careful”, but everyone is. Especially me.

Sorry if this all comes off as ranting, but I’m just warning all the young people out there to:
 
stick with the proven treatments and DO NOT experiment with the most important organs on your body.

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Re: DMSO+X Revisited 2019
« Reply #370 on: April 23, 2021, 09:10:25 AM »

Gir,  Your last post is full of bizarre non-sense based on nothing but the speculation of an inexperienced young man with no training or professional background and a refusal to document anything you say.  I am becoming concerned your issues are more body dysmorphia or other psychological issues.

You repeatedly make absurd statements on this forum on every topic, and you do so as though you have some clue what you are talking about.  You never state your outlandish speculation as a question or even as an opinion but as established fact. 

I have warned you before that we are not providing a forum for such nonsense.  You are so out of touch on your posts, that out of twenty thousand members, you are only about the 4th member in sixteen years that is on the verge of being sanctioned for such behavior.

I am NOT a proponent for DMSO for Peyronies Disease, but I have years of experience with it since it is a substance approved by the very restrictive FDA in the U.S.   It is also approved in most other countries for both human use and veterinary care.  I have used it to deliver antibiotics into the infected foot of birds of prey. It is well established for such use by many leading animal science centers of excellence.  It is a component of many prescriptions and even some OTC preparations for humans to deliver NSAIDs and other substances.

DMSO dissolves many other substances (definition of a solvent), and it can transport other substances with a low molecular weight .  It will, for instance, transport penicillin, but it will NOT transport insulin.  There is nothing scary about the word solvent.  Water is classified as an excellent solvent.

It is a naturally occurring compound and is produced in nature in the atmosphere.  It occurs in small quantities in tomato paste, sauerkraut, and other foods.  It can be applied on the skin, taken orally, or by IV with very low toxicity rates.  You would need to take pounds of it to be toxic, and there is no way to absorb that through the skin.

It is important to apply it to clean skin since it can transport some substances on the skin if they have a low molecular weight that can pass the skin barrier.

A one-time dribble of DMSO on your scrotum can't have any effect on your semen, much less a lasting effect.  If you are soaking your scrotum in a bowl of DMSO  for hours a day, please discontinue (even though evidence suggests it would be safe).

I have stated this as fact.  Therefore I have an obligation to document my facts.  Unless you learn to do the same, you will soon be placed in a forum group that publicly labels you as an unreliable source of information in your signature line on all posts and PM.  It will also restrict you from altering your profile, posting on the introduction board for new members, and other restrictions. Any attempt to bypass those restrictions will result in a permanent ban and the potential deletion of your posts.

Consider this your LAST informal warning

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3916302/
https://www.gaylordchemical.com/environmental-health-safety/dmso-health-safety/
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« Reply #371 on: August 09, 2021, 03:04:33 PM »

Does anyone actually know the specific measurements you put in the X parts...

Like how much Vit C to use, how much Vit E? How many drops of iodine? etc...

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Jan 2020 Bend 50 degrees
May 2021 Full Peyronies kicked in, extreme pain full time 70 degrees bend

In acute stage, pump, traction even shockwave makes things worse!

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Re: DMSO+X Revisited 2019
« Reply #372 on: August 12, 2021, 10:00:05 PM »

I'm compounding a cream currently of 15% verapamil 10% pentoxy 10% DMSO in a liposomal base.

I'm wondering if DMSO can actually penetrate through the skin and fascia into the albuginea.
 
I'm also wondering what the right concetrations of the above drugs should be, as well as if I should add any other ones.

Other I am considering is tranilast which has been used in scar creams. Wondering if anyone has experience in this or has done something similar.
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Onset of pain in March 2021
Progressed to loss of girth to dent under the glans left side

Been doing daily heat,traction,pentox,ved,cialis since initial onset of pain

Currently still experiencing pain and dent unchanged

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Re: DMSO+X Revisited 2019
« Reply #373 on: August 18, 2021, 08:37:56 PM »

Anbil, have you had any success with your DMSO mixtures?

Has anyone here tried DMSO + ascorbic acid? That seemed like melting’s bread and butter and the highest probability of working, in theory. I wonder where melting is. I hope he’s as close to a cure for his own peyronie’s and moved on
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Early 30s
6 weeks into acute phase
Large lump of plaque under right side of glans, causing the glans to bend 40° to the left
Plaque at base on corpus spongiosum/bulbospongiosus
Penile torsion about 15°
Pentox, Cialis, CoQ10, L-Arginine, Paba

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Re: DMSO+X Revisited 2019
« Reply #374 on: August 23, 2021, 04:31:46 PM »

If you simply mix the drugs into an existing liposomal base, they won’t be encapsulated, that being said, maybe in some cases it doesn’t matter, see https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6125578/
To make your own liposomes you can try using a sonic cleaner bath (very cheap from China) or probe. (Again there is a Chinese one , they have a higher frequency than the baths so might be better) fir example There are recipes on the web for vitamin c liposomes, which basically involves sonicating a solution with lecithin, and maybe some additional agents. As the link suggests though, it may or may not be advantageous! Liposomes are not in typical creams/gels/emulsions, they are much smaller particles of about 200 nm or less.
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