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Godisreal

F*ck I wish there were more than one success stories tho, but well well.
30 degree dorsal curve, immobility and heavy loss of girth.
My body seems to get very inflamed when I masturbate too often or eat unhealthy.
Using antioxidants, Pentox and hirudoid cream, as well as manual traction, heat and Cialis.

Bent Ding Dong

@projectpd, yes urea is in urine but they make it from ammonia commercially. Well some people swear that drinking their own urine gives them great health but I'm not trying that!
Age, 40's.

Had peyronie's for more than 10 years. Developed glans lump, then had poor erections and soft glans.

Made a lot of progress over the years with diet and avoidance of sugar and high carbs. Still have the lump but it's much smaller now.

hope794

Godisreal, please consider that there are seriously a few people who tried this DMSO+X thing for more than a couple of times.

I already did my first 40-45 days of DMSO+X and i can say that i feel better.

My improvements are:

1. 90% disappeared pain
2. Feeling of softer penis
3. Feeling of less inflamed penis
4. Feeling of slightly better erections, about 10% improvement (i have ED, F~@< my life and this disease)
5. Feeling of a slightly increase in penile lenght, like 0.5 cm, but pay attention it's maybe because of the slightly better erections.
26 yo from Italy.
Peyronie's since abt 2014
Abt 20-25° bend, w/ a moderate twist to the left
ED for 4 years and getting worse
From pornstar-like to moderately depressed - still fighting for a solution.

Godisreal

I'm happy for you, man. Trying DMSO a couple of times and saying it don't work is stupidity, and that's some people on the forum. It's great that you're keeping at it.
Also, your improvements are exceptional, but they're not exactly what you want, as I understand.
Do you know what's causing your erectile disfunction?
I'm planning on hiring a professional pelvic floor specialist in the further future (I'm f*cking broke rn lol), I definitely believe that REAL pelvic floor therapy could do more for us Peyronie's sufferers than we think.
30 degree dorsal curve, immobility and heavy loss of girth.
My body seems to get very inflamed when I masturbate too often or eat unhealthy.
Using antioxidants, Pentox and hirudoid cream, as well as manual traction, heat and Cialis.

hope794

Dearest godisreal, thank you for your kind words. After your PM, i've decided to reply here.

I'm trying various formulas. Everything of what i say, should be calculated on a 30mL bottle, except the 2°.

1. DMSO 90% + 10% purified water + Vit. C (until total diluition)
2. DMSO 70% (21mL) + 1 mL purified water + 9mL voltaren vials, which is an antinflammatory (diclofenac)
3. DMSO 70% (21mL) + 8ml Isoptin vials (which is the italian name for verapamil) + 1ml purified water
4. DMSO 90% (27mL) + 3mL purified water + ALCAR (until total diluition)

So basically what i do, for example in the formula n°1, is just taking 27mL of DMSO, then add the 3mL water to make the burn reaction happen inside the bottle, then after 5 minutes i add Vit . C until total diluition. Easy as that. I suggest, after washing the DMSO away (usually after 15 minutes) i put on some Urea cream, or your penis will look like a 90 yo penis xD

But please note that, IMHO, the work has been done mostly by the DMSO.


PLEASE NOTE ALSO
that yes, i had a slight improvement, but i'm not cured AT ALL, i still have some pain sometimes and i fear that, if i'll stop DMSO, things will get crap again. So it's not a miracle, for now.

I'll keep doing this since the 6 months, then i'll decide if continuing or not.
26 yo from Italy.
Peyronie's since abt 2014
Abt 20-25° bend, w/ a moderate twist to the left
ED for 4 years and getting worse
From pornstar-like to moderately depressed - still fighting for a solution.

Godisreal

Greatness! Your input is greatly appreciated! A few additional questions bro:
#1: Do you mix everything in a brown glass? Or what kind of "bottle"?
#2: Where did you get your hands on Verapamil? Here in Sweden, it's prescribed by a doctor, only.
However, I'm familiar with the dark web and will prolly be able to get it there otherwise.
#3: How do you purify your water? Or do you buy? Please, explain.
#4: Lastly, you're saying things will get crap again if you stop... what is your main issue with Peyronie's? Is it a curve? Or is it erectile disfunction? Or both, perhaps? I'm asking because it's possible DMSO can have a different effect on different problems.
Thanks again, man.  
30 degree dorsal curve, immobility and heavy loss of girth.
My body seems to get very inflamed when I masturbate too often or eat unhealthy.
Using antioxidants, Pentox and hirudoid cream, as well as manual traction, heat and Cialis.

johnd1201

Do you add anything to thicken up the mixture? If not, isn't it runny?
Quote from: hope794 on August 09, 2020, 09:47:02 AM
Dearest godisreal, thank you for your kind words. After your PM, i've decided to reply here.

I'm trying various formulas. Everything of what i say, should be calculated on a 30mL bottle, except the 2°.

1. DMSO 90% + 10% purified water + Vit. C (until total diluition)
2. DMSO 70% (21mL) + 1 mL purified water + 9mL voltaren vials, which is an antinflammatory (diclofenac)
3. DMSO 70% (21mL) + 8ml Isoptin vials (which is the italian name for verapamil) + 1ml purified water
4. DMSO 90% (27mL) + 3mL purified water + ALCAR (until total diluition)

So basically what i do, for example in the formula n°1, is just taking 27mL of DMSO, then add the 3mL water to make the burn reaction happen inside the bottle, then after 5 minutes i add Vit . C until total diluition. Easy as that. I suggest, after washing the DMSO away (usually after 15 minutes) i put on some Urea cream, or your penis will look like a 90 yo penis xD

But please note that, IMHO, the work has been done mostly by the DMSO.


PLEASE NOTE ALSO
that yes, i had a slight improvement, but i'm not cured AT ALL, i still have some pain sometimes and i fear that, if i'll stop DMSO, things will get crap again. So it's not a miracle, for now.

I'll keep doing this since the 6 months, then i'll decide if continuing or not.
68 years old, diagnosed 8/19, 70 degrees left curve at the base, started Restorex, discontinued after 11 months, 10 degree improvement

projectpd

I think you are too focused on amounts /percentages and not on 'combinationality'.  Where you can combine the agents, then you can apply more frequently and thereby multiply effectiveness. what is the constraint? pH is one, but you can use pH strips.   I heard 3.5 is optimal for vit C. (example)
Age 57, Onset 2010, 2" shortening, shrinking and angulation of glans, weaker erections, 30 degree bend. Mild pain few months, but far from worst symptom. Tried many ideas, not just from here, but not consistently. Moderate improvement, maybe 40%

hope794

I'll answer to anyone:

GODISREAL:

#1: Do you mix everything in a brown glass? Or what kind of "bottle"? I mix it in a brown glass bought on Amazon. Sorry, can't insert the link here, but you'll find easy.
#2: Where did you get your hands on Verapamil? Here in Sweden, it's prescribed by a doctor, only. I know the guy who works in the drug store near my house and i convinced him to give me the drugs without prescription, but he'll soon begin to be suspicious.. :(
However, I'm familiar with the dark web and will prolly be able to get it there otherwise. I DONT RECOMMEND THIS WAY.
#3: How do you purify your water? Or do you buy? Please, explain. Bought on Amazon already purified water.
#4: Lastly, you're saying things will get crap again if you stop... what is your main issue with Peyronie's? Actually, curve is not an issue for me. I've had a penis of about 18cm, then after Peyronie's it's getting straight to 15.5 cm and i fear it's gonna shorten even more. Little losses in girth too.. But the worst part is the Erectile Dysfunction, my erection is crap, can't mantain it. So basically, no more satisfying sex ..  

JOHND1201:
Do you add anything to thicken up the mixture? If not, isn't it runny?
Yeah, it's very runny, i just put some drops, then spread a little bit, then more drop and so on until i put about 3 pipes, which equals to about 3mL of DMSO+X.

PROJECTPD:

I think you are too focused on amounts /percentages and not on 'combinationality'.  Where you can combine the agents, then you can apply more frequently and thereby multiply effectiveness. what is the constraint? pH is one, but you can use pH strips.   I heard 3.5 is optimal for vit C. (example)


I know, unfortunately my chemical background is nearly zero and my experiments are really amateur.

Tomorrow i'll buy another drug, and i'll try to add oral anti-histaminic and a vial of anti-histaminic to the DMSO.
26 yo from Italy.
Peyronie's since abt 2014
Abt 20-25° bend, w/ a moderate twist to the left
ED for 4 years and getting worse
From pornstar-like to moderately depressed - still fighting for a solution.

Holistic

Guys,

Lets try to keep this post focused on DMSO and if youre using whatever substance with it than cool. But this chat has really become a sink hole of multiple convos which makes it harder for someone who wants to use DMSO and look for valuable info on here. Im sure there are other valuable convo topics but lets be organized.
32 yo. Unknown cause. 1st plaque proximal left base near pelvis 9/19. Expanded and shrunk after 8 mo by 50% (still working on it). Minor bend but malleable. 2nd small plaque 5/20 superficial distal right just under tip. Currently growing. No bend.

Fix This

Just an update all regarding this.

I haven't been on here for months so sorry for the late update

I mentioned on here a few months ago that I had developed some wrinkles due to DMSO usage/ over usage

The wrinkles all faded as far as I can see. I bought a jar of a retinol wrinkle cream on Amazon and used that for a few weeks , then just kind of stopped and forgot about it

So all seems good. But if using DMSO and another mixture I would advise to premix in advance as it generates a  great deal of heat immediately upon mixing ( with X ). And to wash off after 5 or 10 , 15 minutes or similar

But if you do end up getting wrinkles from it, stop using and try some Retinol Cream!

I'm now using a little bit with pre mixed ( a few times a week ) whilst using a traction device
47 , penis trauma July 2018 leading to Peyronies. 30-40 degree dorsal curvature, narrowing after plaque. 

I'm attacking it though, and I will fix this!

VED, traction, DMSO, Ultrasound, Acupuncture, meds, herbs

Tom_E

MY EXPERIENCE WITH DMSO PLUS OTHER THINGS

I tried DMSO plus water, let it cool down, then plus vitamin C and over time it did make the plaque softer and I think this helped to stretch it a bit more, via my Restorex.
I did get some wrinkles and redness sometimes, but then I reduced the amounts and was better.

I have a little bit of calcification so tried: DMSO with water and Liquid Potassium Iodide KI SOLUTION.  I heard it can help sometimes with scars in general.  Maybe would work for plaques.
It did make the plaque softer.  Too early to tell if it reduced any calcification.  

BUT, within a day of using the DMSO\water\Liquid Potassium Iodide mix, any wrinkles and redness left over from the previous Vitamin C mix, completely disappeared and skin was healthy and pink.  

Please note this could be for various reasons. I sometimes would use too much of the DMSO\water\Vitamin C perhaps.
Also please note, it has been said by some to not use Potassium Iodide too long, as it can affect some people's thyroids\other things in some ways.  If you do use it a lot, get your thyroid tested sometimes.

One negative experience with DMSO, is when I would sometimes fill half a glass with a 4 ounce mix and dip my penis directly in it and keep it submerged for 15 min.  Pickled Penis way.  Dont do this. lol  Or at least be aware bad stuff can sometimes happen.  Did this a few times and it made me feel sick sometimes and I did not poop for 4 days straight.  It just soaks into too many other areas of the body if done this way.  

Overall, using small amounts and stretching via a Restorex and Erection Pump device, did reduce my curve a bit and I gained a bit of length.  This is over 6 months.

I am doing Xiaflex shots now, so not doing the DMSO or Erection Pump things, but still can do restorex and manual stretching.

QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
So far I have heard to take Pentox and try to get Liquid Potassium Iodide KI solution into the skin with dmso and Liquid Potassium Iodide KI can soak in a bit by itself to.
Any other ideas for Calcification?

Hope some of what I said helped some here.
Cheers my brothers!
Tom  
Nov 2019-60% Dorsal Curve-Some calcification
6 Verapamil injections -not much change
Traction & VED & DMSO+Mix -some change
4 XIAFLEX shots plus Traction -good change
Curve now 38% +2\3 inch added
1 year process so far
Thanks guys and this website!

Fix This

Hi all

Has anyone ever tried DMSO with Cialis ? It seems that Cialis ( Tadalafal ) has a molecular mass of 389.4 g/mol which I believe is well within the limits for succesful transdermal absorption using DMSO yes ?

The general consensus on Cialis sees to be  that it is anti fibrotic and is often touted as being one of the more ' successful' oral treatments for peyronies.  So it stands to reason that if it can be transdermally applied using DMSO then it will have more direct benefit?

So anyway, I crushed and mixed 2 * 25 mg Cialis tabs with water and DMSO in brown bottles this morning. Approx 60% water 40% dmso ratio. Will see how it goes and let you know

If anyone else has tried this , how did you get along ?



47 , penis trauma July 2018 leading to Peyronies. 30-40 degree dorsal curvature, narrowing after plaque. 

I'm attacking it though, and I will fix this!

VED, traction, DMSO, Ultrasound, Acupuncture, meds, herbs

Holistic

Quote from: Fix This on October 24, 2020, 04:13:01 AM
Hi all

Has anyone ever tried DMSO with Cialis ? It seems that Cialis ( Tadalafal ) has a molecular mass of 389.4 g/mol which I believe is well within the limits for succesful transdermal absorption using DMSO yes ?

If you look in this convo, there is discussion of the molecular weight any added component must be for DMSO to carry it into the skin. Im not sure what the cut off point is for the numerical weight though.

32 yo. Unknown cause. 1st plaque proximal left base near pelvis 9/19. Expanded and shrunk after 8 mo by 50% (still working on it). Minor bend but malleable. 2nd small plaque 5/20 superficial distal right just under tip. Currently growing. No bend.

NeoV

Quote from: Tom_E on October 02, 2020, 12:43:02 AM
Pickled Penis way.  

Tom, this gave me the best laugh I've had on this forum for a while, LOL!! Thanks for that. Sounds like it really messed you up!

Hope everyone keeps us updated and is careful. If it weren't for the messiness, steps and time required, I suppose many more men would be trying DMSO.

AnonDoc

Quote from: aquintance22 on January 13, 2020, 03:35:45 PM
Anyone has tried DMSO + Serrapeptase or other enzymes or would it be not absorbable or only working in the intestines?

I've used a nattokinase/serrapeptase combination topically, More frequently on the arms, with systemic spread. Be careful of dosing and keep to small amounts.

Notice softening/stretching of penis and lightening of long time stretch marks even with very infrequent use. It Gives me insomnia  
Started at around 16-17 w/ dumb exercises

Have tried all the supplements for 15+ years, things I'm a believer in:

-Dong in clean canteen w/ 104 degree water, intermittently Ice testes
-Transdermal collegenase
-Natto/serra
-Resveratrol makes mebig

AnonDoc

Anyone try a topical/transdermal collagenase or xiaflex?

I've seen a report online of someone doing this for dupuyten and said the cured it.
Started at around 16-17 w/ dumb exercises

Have tried all the supplements for 15+ years, things I'm a believer in:

-Dong in clean canteen w/ 104 degree water, intermittently Ice testes
-Transdermal collegenase
-Natto/serra
-Resveratrol makes mebig

Fix This

Quote from: Holistic on October 25, 2020, 07:54:30 PM


Thanks Holistic. Yes I know thanks. It would seem to be around 1000 g/mol accirding to earlier in this thread.

I was more trying to find out whether anyone had tried DMSO with Cialis really

Many thanks

Fix
47 , penis trauma July 2018 leading to Peyronies. 30-40 degree dorsal curvature, narrowing after plaque. 

I'm attacking it though, and I will fix this!

VED, traction, DMSO, Ultrasound, Acupuncture, meds, herbs

Mr man

This has been the most informative thread on DMSO. Am fighting to reduce symptoms. Before relenting to surgery.

For the record. Just started using my DMSO formula today. 3 parts DMSO, 1 part castor oil, and 0.5 parts vitamin E oil.

After the first day. Penis is really soft and pliable. Can clearly feel the plaques now. There are 4 or 5.

Have ordered vitamin c powder and sodium thiosulfate. Probably use these neat. Alternative with my aforementioned formula.

Just one question please. What is ACV? It's mentioned frequently at the beginning of this thread. Thanks.
Latest routine. Started l-lysine 3mg daily, l-proline 5mg daily. Increased vit c intake. Accompanied with almost daily vacuum therapy. Pumping to 100% Exercise caution! Made good progress. L arginine supplements and prescribed potaba are helping.

Tom_E

Nov 2019-60% Dorsal Curve-Some calcification
6 Verapamil injections -not much change
Traction & VED & DMSO+Mix -some change
4 XIAFLEX shots plus Traction -good change
Curve now 38% +2\3 inch added
1 year process so far
Thanks guys and this website!

Tom_E

Honestly guys, I did notice some positive changes in curve and length using the DMSO+Vitamin C and DMSO+ sski potassium iodide.  I used one mix for a week and took a week off as it made me really constipated,  then repeated with this mix and pattern for a a month.  Took 2 weeks off and tried the other mix mentioned above and did the same pattern.  Please note, I would use a glass eye dropper to drip it onto my penis, over the plaque area, and drips would fall into a bowl.  sucked up the drops into the dropper and did it again, over and over for 10 to 15 mins while watching tv.  Get a glass eye dropper and avoid getting the solution in the rubber squeezing part.

I was sitting on my yoga mat with warm ceramic bowl, balls on one side and dick inside bowl, I held my penis up though, so drips would not go on the head of the penis.  I would just keep dripping on top of dorsal plaque area and it would hit that area and then drip around penis and into bowl.  some would stay on for a bit.  I would take small breaks during that 15 min dripping sessions to rest and watch tv.  pretty much dripped the solution on 35 times during the 15 mins.

Avoid getting drippings on head or balls, it can sting, or at least it stung my balls and some say avoid the head if possible,  unless your plaque is under head, then ask around if getting dmso+mix is ok for head.  sensitive skin area thats probably used in the part of the arousal process.  Plus not sure if getting these chemicals into your ball sack is a good idea...could mess things up maybe.

Personally, I dont use too much of these mixes.  One 15 minutes session would use this mix
MIX 1:
mix 10 drops of 100% dmso with 10 drops of distilled water in a glass
wait 2 minutes so it can cool
add teaspoon of vitamin C powder or make a judgement call to keep it sticky and not too dry
leave that in the glass cup

warm a bowl up, sit down on yoga mat, balls on one side, dick on the other and drip away, suck up drippings and drip away again, for 15 minutes, take breaks, watch tv.  I suggest star trek discovery or Mandalorian or the Outpost tv series.  Actually not that last one as you might get a boner. LOL  shes hot.
When done, clean up.  Later in the evening I use traction device.(Restorex)
I use this mix off and on over a month, 1 week on and 1 week off.

I do the same with MIX2:
MIX2 = mix 10 drops of 100% dmso with 10 drops of distilled water in a glass
wait 2 minutes so it can cool
add 10 drops of sski potassium iodide
leave that in the glass cup

warm a bowl up, sit down on yoga mat, balls on one side, dick on the other and drip away, suck up drippings and drip away again, for 15 minutes, take breaks, watch tv. avoid boners.
When done, clean up.  Later in the evening I use traction device.(Restorex)

not sure how to make this mix stick to avoid dripping it on over and over, but I got used to it and took breaks.
I take a full week or 2 off here and there, as dmso or something in the mix, really makes me constipated.

These dripping sessions last 7 to 10 days and then I take a break from them, to get dmso+mix out of my system.  I feel it is getting into my bowels and other areas down there.
I notice on day 3 of dripping the dmso+mix, the plaque definitely gets much softer.  everything gets softer it seems, but more importantly, I believe this softness helps to stretch the plaque and penis itself, to gain length.  Over time, I actually could feel the plaque get thinner and longer in the direction I was stretching it.  hopefully the dmso+mixes are actually eroding the plaque but at least I knew it was helping me to stretch it for sure.  Please note, after you stop using dmso+mix for several days, the plaque will go back to original hardness and some of the shape went back to normal but not all.  some of the shape was still stretched in the direction I was pulling it with traction.  

Did the dmso+mix thing plus traction thing off and on over 6 months and it did help significantly.

Before that, just traction alone did a little, but not much.

Before that, tried a series of 5 Verapamil injections plus traction, did not do that much for me personally, so stopped at 5 and not the usual 6

Most recently, a series of 4 XIAFLEX shots helped a lot.  Note:  I used traction after each shot for a month.  I got 1 shot every 5 to 6 weeks.
I noticed nothing much until the 3 shot and then wow, 12% reduction in curve after stretching it for a couple days.  4th shot, another 8% after stretching for a few days.  4th shot hurt a bit too much so took a break for awhile, but very happy with them and I may stop there.  4th one really hurt hehe, and I get worried about any kind of rupture, although it never happened with me, thankfully.
NOTE:  would not do the dmso+mixes near the times I did xiaflex treatments.  I would stop the dmso at least 4 days before I would get a shot, as I felt it would be hard for the doc to feel where to inject me as the plaque was too soft sometimes. I would not do any dmso+mixes again for 4 weeks after the shot.  I used traction during those 4 weeks though.  after 4 weeks, I would gently make love to my partner or masterbate gently here and there over a few days, as you cant do that for 4 weeks after a xiaflex shot.  After the 4 weeks, I would use dmso for a week, plus traction, then stop for 4 days and then get another shot.  Really guys, dont mess around with xiaflex.  it eats away at your plaque hopefully but there are no known studies of having xiaflex while your dick is soft with dmso...the xiaflex may eat too much or too little or eat something it shouldnt and then boom, rupture time... really bad news my friends.  Never happened to me but holy crap just avoid that kind of situation if you can.

So my journey has been exactly one year now, and thanks to all the advice I got from you guys and this site...etc, I went from 60% dorsal curve with a loss of 1.5 inches, to a 38% dorsal curve and gained 2\3 of an inch back.  I will continue to the Restorex traction.  by the way, I lightly warm my penis first before traction.  not too hot though, google it.  Too hot is very bad.  just keep it lightly warm before you start to stretch it. I also will do some vacuum therapy(Soma Therapy ED) sometimes.

Hey thanks guys!  You all helped me very much!  I will keep at it and later when reaching my goal of 30% curve, which is fine with me, I will do the above things just part time as i am functioning ok now, will do a maintenance dose of stretching mostly here and there and always be careful making love, avoid certain positions.  Be gentle and firm but not crazy dive bombing maniacs lol.  Also take it easy choking the chicken my friends.  Adjust your technique to a safer one.

You all are awesome.  Keep helping each other.  Keep up the good work!  This website is awesome!
Tom
Nov 2019-60% Dorsal Curve-Some calcification
6 Verapamil injections -not much change
Traction & VED & DMSO+Mix -some change
4 XIAFLEX shots plus Traction -good change
Curve now 38% +2\3 inch added
1 year process so far
Thanks guys and this website!

NeoV

Love your post Tom!!!!  ;D

It's so great to see you try multiple things at once including Xiaflex, traction, VED, and DMSO, and to see good results!

Godisreal

Just started my official journey with DMSO + X. WITH CONSISTENCY.
Did the first session today. I will aim at doing 1-2 sessions per day. Sessions meaning dripping & massaging a solution on my dick; solution consisting of DMSO, Vitamin C Acid, Castor Oil and a smidge of Xhantan to thicken the solution a bit.
I will do this for as long as it takes lol.
Does anyone know how to properly store the solution? With DMSO and everything? Is the fridge ok?
Also, is it better to have less thick solution or more thick? Perhaps it does not matter?
Also, without discipline, you will never get cured from this. Remember that.
If anyone has any suggestions on what solutions I should try, let me know!
The current solution I'm using was originally made the great melting.
It's very sad to see that he hasn't been online for so long because he got banned for some nonsense.
Horrible decision by the admins. He is, without a doubt, one of the most important people in the history of this forum.  
30 degree dorsal curve, immobility and heavy loss of girth.
My body seems to get very inflamed when I masturbate too often or eat unhealthy.
Using antioxidants, Pentox and hirudoid cream, as well as manual traction, heat and Cialis.

LuisFernandez

Godisreal,

I'm also finally about to start DMSO. Stayed away from it because i thought it was too complicated, but after a few weeks studying it - it really isn't.
So I would recommend adding PABA/POTABA and perhaps some iodine mixes.

I'm going to start with DMSO + PABA + ACV + VIT-C + IODINE
Also going to try mixing in Pentox

Not sure if i'll mix PABA + VIT-C + Pentox + IODINE in the same batch. Probably not, just create different batches. I'll also update my progress and batches here as i go.
Injury in April 2020. Onset of ED.
Started RestoreX and VED 2 months after injury.
Taking 10mg daily cialis, pentox, coq10, vit-e.
Traction (+1 inch)/VED/PGE-1/DMSO+X

Tortão Pra Direita

Quote from: Godisreal on December 16, 2020, 09:59:26 AM
If anyone has any suggestions on what solutions I should try, let me know!

Check about "Curowhite". It's a white curcumin that doesn't stains and it's much more absorbable.
I think it would be a nice add on.
I really don't like DMSO, but I'm planning on stacking Curowhite + Pentravan.

If you want more reading, check this link. This guy explains how Curowhite was made.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NootropicsDepot/comments/j6e73p/curowhite_and_the_color_of_curcumin/
1993 born. Brazil.
Peyronies since Sep 2019.
Penis developed curvature, lots of plaque, loss of size and axial rigidity. Severe peyronie.
Mar/21 TEP + Titan Touch 20 cm + 1.5 RTE.

Surgery done by Dr. Marco Tulio Cavalcanti, in São Paulo.

Godisreal

LuisFernandez
Aight man. So basically, you crush your pills (Pentox, IODINE, PABA) and put it in what? A mixer?
Or how do you turn it to liquid form? Pretty interesting.
Do you mix everything with a electric mixer? I, personally mixed manually.
But as long as you don't mix the DMSO in the plastic mixer, that's a good move to mix the other agents in the mixer.
One thing I noticed after just one application is coolness in my penis (lowered inflammation).
This is gonna be interesting. Wishing you best of luck, man. Please keep me informed.
Tortão
With DMSO being the most powerful natural drug-delivering agent, I can't say that leaving DMSO out of the formula is a good idea if you want to see good results.
As it has been said many times here: it's very difficult for any substances to penetrate further than the skin without a delivery-man like DMSO :)
30 degree dorsal curve, immobility and heavy loss of girth.
My body seems to get very inflamed when I masturbate too often or eat unhealthy.
Using antioxidants, Pentox and hirudoid cream, as well as manual traction, heat and Cialis.

lanyc

I just have a quick question...I've read thru these threads...I get the mix but as far as applying...what is the preferred method.?  Once its mixed how is it applied and for how long..?  If someone could give me an idea on how to use the mix that would be great...thx thx..
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LuisFernandez

Quote from: Godisreal on December 16, 2020, 05:24:13 PM
LuisFernandez
Aight man. So basically, you crush your pills (Pentox, IODINE, PABA) and put it in what? A mixer?
Or how do you turn it to liquid form? Pretty interesting.
Do you mix everything with a electric mixer? I, personally mixed manually.
But as long as you don't mix the DMSO in the plastic mixer, that's a good move to mix the other agents in the mixer.
One thing I noticed after just one application is coolness in my penis (lowered inflammation).
This is gonna be interesting. Wishing you best of luck, man. Please keep me informed.
Tortão
With DMSO being the most powerful natural drug-delivering agent, I can't say that leaving DMSO out of the formula is a good idea if you want to see good results.
As it has been said many times here: it's very difficult for any substances to penetrate further than the skin without a delivery-man like DMSO :)

Godisreal,

I still haven't started treatment, still waiting for the DMSO and PABA to arrive. Kind of mad i waited this long, but hopefully it provides some results.
PABA comes in powder, for Pentox i bought a pill crusher. I plan to just mix it with the DMSO in a glass jar. Then i can apply with a glass eye dropper.

I will also try to emulsify into a gel-like substance as melting described in this thread. I'll post pics and stuff once i get going.

Good luck.
Injury in April 2020. Onset of ED.
Started RestoreX and VED 2 months after injury.
Taking 10mg daily cialis, pentox, coq10, vit-e.
Traction (+1 inch)/VED/PGE-1/DMSO+X

Godisreal

Sounds good, Luis. But what benefit would PABA give you?
POTABA/PABA is a classic treatment and is a form of Vitamin B if I'm not mistaking?
I'll look into it. As for crushing Pentox. Yes, I like the idea so I will definitely do it as well.
Do you use anything to emulsify the solution? I use castor oil mixed with everything else (DMSO, Vit C etc). Is that ok? Or should I apply castor oil afterwards, perhaps?
Anyway, let's beat this disease. Good luck, man. Keep up the good work and stay positive.
30 degree dorsal curve, immobility and heavy loss of girth.
My body seems to get very inflamed when I masturbate too often or eat unhealthy.
Using antioxidants, Pentox and hirudoid cream, as well as manual traction, heat and Cialis.

LuisFernandez

Godisreal,

Check out Melting's reply #15 to this thread. Apparently PABA is basically POTABA, but honestly i'm not sure what the difference is. I don't have a prescription for Potaba so using paba is the best i can do right now.

I'm unsure what the mechanism of action is for some of these ingredients, but PABA seems like a good start.

As for castor oil. I believe you use it both for the mix and after application.

In penis enlargement circles it is said that using DMSO + PABA softens up the tunica and makes it more soft and pliable. I'm combining DMSO+X treatment with traction and VED.

I made my first batch of DMSO+X yesterday. I basically bought all the ingredients:

DMSO + ACV + CASTOR + PABA + PENTOX

Ingredients:
- DMSO 99.9%
- PABA powder
- Pentox
- Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV)
- Vitamin C Powder
- Castor Oil
- Lecithin
- Xanthan Powder

Tools:
- Mason Jars
- Glass Eye Dropper
- Pill Crusher
- Handheld Mixer w/ Metal Tip (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E45VBFO)

Steps:
- Draw 50ml of DMSO and place into jar #1
- Draw 2.5ml of ACV and place into jar #1
- Mix jar #1 and let cool
- Draw 12.5ml of ACV into jar #2
- Add PABA powder until it stops dissolving into jar #2 - mix
- Crush 3 pills of Pentox and add into jar #2 - mix
- Draw 5-10ml of Castor Oil into jar #2
- Pinch of Xanathan and some Lecithin - mix
- Pour the contents of jar #1 into jar #2 or place them into a separate jar
- Mix thoroughly - add PABA, Xanthan, & Lecithin until it starts to create a gel-like substance - more PABA the better
- Let sit overnight

Application:
- Apply small amount into your hand and leave for a couple of hours to make sure there's no adverse reaction
- Apply all over penis in tub or somewhere easy to clean
- The gel mix will stick to your penis easily
- Let sit 15min, reapply if desired for another 15min
- Wash area thoroughly - i took a quick shower
- Dry thoroughly and apply castor oil
- Wear white underwear or pajamas

Notes:
- This is the DMSO i bought: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BSYQ0XC/
- I didn't get any weird taste, which tells me i may not have used enough DMSO
- I did feel some slight tingling inside my penis, i took this as a good sign
- After I washed i did a session with my VED to try and maximize effects
- Planning on applying 2x/day
- Some pictures (NSFW): https://imgur.com/a/RhNIvRf
Injury in April 2020. Onset of ED.
Started RestoreX and VED 2 months after injury.
Taking 10mg daily cialis, pentox, coq10, vit-e.
Traction (+1 inch)/VED/PGE-1/DMSO+X

Godisreal

Great answer. Luis. But why white underwear and not black? Is there a problem with leaving the DMSO on and having darker underwear on? Because that's what I'm doing lol  
30 degree dorsal curve, immobility and heavy loss of girth.
My body seems to get very inflamed when I masturbate too often or eat unhealthy.
Using antioxidants, Pentox and hirudoid cream, as well as manual traction, heat and Cialis.

LuisFernandez

Quote from: Godisreal on December 20, 2020, 01:45:30 PM
Great answer. Luis. But why white underwear and not black? Is there a problem with leaving the DMSO on and having darker underwear on? Because that's what I'm doing lol

I believe melting mentioned to use white underwear in one of the earlier posts. This is because there are no "toxic" color dye which can be absorbed by the DMSO into your system. It's just a bit safer. But honestly, i think that as long as you clean really well then there shouldn't be any problems.
Injury in April 2020. Onset of ED.
Started RestoreX and VED 2 months after injury.
Taking 10mg daily cialis, pentox, coq10, vit-e.
Traction (+1 inch)/VED/PGE-1/DMSO+X

Godisreal

Interesting, Luis.
I'm gonna have to discontinue my DMSO use until I've acquired a few more items, honestly.
While inflammation has been lowered, MORE PAIN in waves has come which is obviously fkn weird.
But i bet it's because there's probably toxic color dye in my systems or something.
Let's hope I'm not sterile lol.
Also, what about dmso on our balls? Is that dangerous?
Lastly, I'm not scared away easily from treatments like this but there's a line that can be crossed, and I just crossed it.
I'm gonna have to rethink my situation before going on with DMSO + X.
The reason I let my DMSO + X sit for 5-15 min and then I just put my dick back in the underwear and keep on with my day is because I read that DMSO is quickly absorbed into the skin?
And that's why I thought it'd be no problem. But I might be wrong...
30 degree dorsal curve, immobility and heavy loss of girth.
My body seems to get very inflamed when I masturbate too often or eat unhealthy.
Using antioxidants, Pentox and hirudoid cream, as well as manual traction, heat and Cialis.

Anton36

I prepared own DMSO.

  I used DMSO, Castor Oil, Vitamin C.

  My question is, how many times should I use this mix. And after using DMSO should I wash my penis ? Thanks in advance  
age 25
first symptoms: Flaccid Pain
official diagnosis 2017 after ultrasound
treatments tried All oral drugs

LuisFernandez

Quote from: Godisreal on December 21, 2020, 07:35:58 AM
Interesting, Luis.
I'm gonna have to discontinue my DMSO use until I've acquired a few more items, honestly.
While inflammation has been lowered, MORE PAIN in waves has come which is obviously fkn weird.
But i bet it's because there's probably toxic color dye in my systems or something.
Let's hope I'm not sterile lol.
Also, what about dmso on our balls? Is that dangerous?
Lastly, I'm not scared away easily from treatments like this but there's a line that can be crossed, and I just crossed it.
I'm gonna have to rethink my situation before going on with DMSO + X.
The reason I let my DMSO + X sit for 5-15 min and then I just put my dick back in the underwear and keep on with my day is because I read that DMSO is quickly absorbed into the skin?
And that's why I thought it'd be no problem. But I might be wrong...

I wouldn't overthink that a dye is somehow creating pain. It's just to be extra safe. Certainly try to avoid the balls, but IMO it shouldn't be TOO dangerous. DMSO, PABA, etc are relatively benign substances - but best be safe and avoid it. I tend to place a paper tower between by shaft and my testicles to try to avoid rubbing them.

Injury in April 2020. Onset of ED.
Started RestoreX and VED 2 months after injury.
Taking 10mg daily cialis, pentox, coq10, vit-e.
Traction (+1 inch)/VED/PGE-1/DMSO+X

Tortão Pra Direita

Maybe this is a stupid question, but wouldn't be better to inject the solution under the penis skin? I mean, no need to stick the needle in your tunica, just lift the penis skin and inject the solution using an insulin needle. This way you guys would avoid an entire skin layer.
1993 born. Brazil.
Peyronies since Sep 2019.
Penis developed curvature, lots of plaque, loss of size and axial rigidity. Severe peyronie.
Mar/21 TEP + Titan Touch 20 cm + 1.5 RTE.

Surgery done by Dr. Marco Tulio Cavalcanti, in São Paulo.

Mr man

Quote from: Tortão Pra Direita on December 22, 2020, 05:05:48 PM
Maybe this is a stupid question, but wouldn't be better to inject the solution under the penis skin?

This is a bad idea. Injecting subcontaneously invariably leaves tissue with a reservoir of DMSO solution sitting inside. it's like hitting it with a bomb. Rather then a gentle spray from above.

Having some medical training in this area. I decided to try this. On a tiny scale. No more then .5ml for research purposes.

Please dont do this. It was done on another study that is on-going. Injecting mixture with 50% DMSO + 50% X is way to strong for soft tissue. Never mind 70/30. Lumps can form.within. Skin will be stressed. The safe ratio is 3-5% DMSO + 97% saline solution. Never inject oils of any sort. There is a good chance of poisoning. That includes castor oil. At that ratio. There is no potential benefit at all.

No question is a stupid question, but please stick to safe practice. Injecting requires education, a lot of knowledge, and research in safe preferably laboratory type environment.  Where reaction to chemicals can be recorded or treated should it be adverse.

Leave the tissue testing for lab rats  
Latest routine. Started l-lysine 3mg daily, l-proline 5mg daily. Increased vit c intake. Accompanied with almost daily vacuum therapy. Pumping to 100% Exercise caution! Made good progress. L arginine supplements and prescribed potaba are helping.

Tortão Pra Direita

Thanks for your answer!
DMSO is really strong, I tried to use it for a few days but give up for this reason.

There are substances that are more gentle, like Pentravam. Here, in Brazil, doctors prescribe pentravam + verapamil.
I'm planning on stacking pentravam + curowhite. I think this is an interesting combo.
1993 born. Brazil.
Peyronies since Sep 2019.
Penis developed curvature, lots of plaque, loss of size and axial rigidity. Severe peyronie.
Mar/21 TEP + Titan Touch 20 cm + 1.5 RTE.

Surgery done by Dr. Marco Tulio Cavalcanti, in São Paulo.

Godisreal

Does DMSO react with cotton? 100% cotton-underwear? (white)
30 degree dorsal curve, immobility and heavy loss of girth.
My body seems to get very inflamed when I masturbate too often or eat unhealthy.
Using antioxidants, Pentox and hirudoid cream, as well as manual traction, heat and Cialis.

LuisFernandez

@Godisreal,

I think 100% cotton underwear would be safe. I recently changed storing my DMSO mixes on glass bottles with corkwood tops. I was seeing some rust on metal lid containers.

Things have been going well, I am actually seeing some relatively good improvements. Better stretch on flaccid and slightly more pliable scar tissue. Will continue my applications.

Right now I have two mixes that i apply twice per day 45-60 each session.
1. DMSO + ACV + Castore Oil + Pentox + PABA
2. DMSO + ACV + Castor Oil + Vitamin C + Magnesium

I use Lecithin and Xanthan as emulsifiers. Mix #2 actually turns into a gel-like substance that's easy to apply. Mix #1 remains somewhat runny. So I apply mix #1 for 30 min then mix #2 for 30 minutes each session.

I'm also diligently doing traction and VED daily. Seeing good improvements with all of this so far.
Injury in April 2020. Onset of ED.
Started RestoreX and VED 2 months after injury.
Taking 10mg daily cialis, pentox, coq10, vit-e.
Traction (+1 inch)/VED/PGE-1/DMSO+X

Godisreal

Great work man. I'm glad it's helping you.
But I have to ask once again:
What exactly do you use to not get any DMSO + X on your balls? Do you place some kind of cloth or what do you do? I'm tryna make sense on exactly WHY I have this problem?
Because you can't use any material to cover your balls if the cloth reacts with the DMSO, right?
I've had scrotum-discomfort since yesterday because I accidentally got some DMSO on my balls while treating my penis. Really fkn annoying, to be honest.
Especially when all ingredients are natural in my mix (VIT C, DMSO, XHANTAN & CASTOR OIL).
One could argue that there shouldn't be discomfort with these type of natural and, quite frankly, beneficial-for-testicular-health ingredients, right?
In by that I mean Vitamin C, which has been proven to be beneficial for testicular health.
Rest of the ingredients are also  just natural, nonetheless
Would a thick white cloth be okay to place on my balls? To avoid DMSO coming onto my balls?
Or would this react with dmso? I can't find sh*t about this online even after reading 5 full articles about "DMSO, Risks & Uses" etc etc.
What should I do? Please give me some insight, lads, so I can stop having this ridiculous problem.
Thanks  
30 degree dorsal curve, immobility and heavy loss of girth.
My body seems to get very inflamed when I masturbate too often or eat unhealthy.
Using antioxidants, Pentox and hirudoid cream, as well as manual traction, heat and Cialis.

Asphyxia

If you are planning to try a traction device soon then maybe if you put dmso and then do traction then your penis wont wiggle on your balls as much, i honestly havent paid attention because it doesnt bother me and i know that traction can be pointed upwards which i rarely do, so that might help.
Age:23. Onset of symptoms: september 2020.
Curve mostly semi erect about 60 degrees, slight pain
Tried short & prolonged fasts, keto,carnivore, traction and most of the supplements.
Severe digestive issues, probably an autoimmune disorder

Godisreal

Asphyxia
Yeah, man, that might be right. I just read an article regarding DMSO being used for treating discomfort caused by testicular cancer, so I'm not as worried anymore.
However, do you wash your dick before you apply the mixtures?
I never do. I just do it afterwards. But should I wash it clean before applying?
Also, do you know if I can put a white cloth between my dick and my balls? Is that safe?
My apologies if I sound like some worried teen lol, I just wanna be safe using this.
I did use melting's measurements when making the mix so it should be all right.
But how much do you guys apply every time? Please, I want everybody's opinion.
Do you guys just use a drip on the plaque area? Because I pour out a good deal on the whole dick.
Maybe that's not a good idea?  
30 degree dorsal curve, immobility and heavy loss of girth.
My body seems to get very inflamed when I masturbate too often or eat unhealthy.
Using antioxidants, Pentox and hirudoid cream, as well as manual traction, heat and Cialis.

LuisFernandez

Godisreal,

Check out the first picture here: https://imgur.com/a/yXtZuOq
I simply use some paper towels between my penis and my scrotum. This keeps the DMSO out of my balls, though it's not perfect. I'm not particularly worried about my testicles and DMSO - mainly because i don't plan on having more kids.

I think a white cloth is safe as well, in fact i may try that and save on paper towels.
I apply a LOT of the stuff, though i don't like to waste it. I'll even reapply after a few minutes after the mix has dried up a bit. The idea is to keep the scar tissue soaked in the mix as long as possible.

Best.
Injury in April 2020. Onset of ED.
Started RestoreX and VED 2 months after injury.
Taking 10mg daily cialis, pentox, coq10, vit-e.
Traction (+1 inch)/VED/PGE-1/DMSO+X

LuisFernandez

Hmm, apparently mixing magnesium with Vitamin-C creates: "magnesium ascorbate".
I will stop mixing these two and create two separate mixes for magnesium and vitamin-c.
Injury in April 2020. Onset of ED.
Started RestoreX and VED 2 months after injury.
Taking 10mg daily cialis, pentox, coq10, vit-e.
Traction (+1 inch)/VED/PGE-1/DMSO+X

Godisreal

I understand. Thanks for the answer Luis.
But I wanna have kids and I still have scrotum-discomfort and I'm fkn worried.
I'm surprised no other member has had this problem.
Also, there's not anything a doc can do, is it?
I thought I did enough research to put my mind at ease but no.
It's getting to my head. It's incredibly frustrating and difficult to battle Peyronie's just to get a rash and scrotum discomfort in return... and for what? For having DMSO on my ballsack for barely 5 minutes? Then I washed it away.
F*ck. I have stuff I need to get done. I don't have time to worry about DMSO problems.
This is absolutely ridiculous.
Should I be worried for infertility? I have, like I said, a rash and discomfort in the scrotum area.
I'm usually the most optimistic person on the forum lol but infertility and Peyronie's?  
Nope. That's too much for me.
Any suggestions?
Out of all the research I did, I found that DMSO is effective in storing frozen sperm or whatever.
And I also stumbled across some freak that splashed his balls in DMSO to be able to have kids with his wife, which obviously makes no freaking sense whatsoever.  
30 degree dorsal curve, immobility and heavy loss of girth.
My body seems to get very inflamed when I masturbate too often or eat unhealthy.
Using antioxidants, Pentox and hirudoid cream, as well as manual traction, heat and Cialis.

Asphyxia

i would see a doctor, skin problems made me weary in the past from trying to solve them.
i thought il solve them on my own but it was spreading and i was given some cream and pills, i dealt with eczema, ringworm, impetigo
i think most of us wouldnt know which cream is safe for the balls and which isnt, im guessing it should be without steroids, either way the treatment depends on the diagnosis.

thats just my opinion though, im not too sure of it myself.
Age:23. Onset of symptoms: september 2020.
Curve mostly semi erect about 60 degrees, slight pain
Tried short & prolonged fasts, keto,carnivore, traction and most of the supplements.
Severe digestive issues, probably an autoimmune disorder

Godisreal

I'm not worried about the skin, bro, I'm worried about sperm quality and the effect DMSO might have on sperm production and health.
It's a hassle.
The skin reaction is obviously from DMSO. My recipe came from melting suggesting 100 ml DMSO with diluting with water of a small amount.
And DMSO is considered dangerous to cells in amounts more than 0,5% purity.
And most guys here have at least 50% (after diluting), and I probably had 60-65% after I diluted with water.
I don't understand how we put this sh*t on our dicks? And there's not one warning from the ones that started these threads to avoid scrotum contact at all costs, which should be a clear indication. Lol I definitely should've made more research.
It's my own fault for trusting random forum members, blindly.  
30 degree dorsal curve, immobility and heavy loss of girth.
My body seems to get very inflamed when I masturbate too often or eat unhealthy.
Using antioxidants, Pentox and hirudoid cream, as well as manual traction, heat and Cialis.

Asphyxia

Well, maybe you should worry about the skin if you are worried about sperm quality, but again, i dont really know, in my opinion either way, better safe than sorry.

I found this
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32825298/
Age:23. Onset of symptoms: september 2020.
Curve mostly semi erect about 60 degrees, slight pain
Tried short & prolonged fasts, keto,carnivore, traction and most of the supplements.
Severe digestive issues, probably an autoimmune disorder

LuisFernandez

Yeah recently i made a new mix and didn't test it beforehand and ended up getting a rash/dry skin. I believe i just mixed too much DMSO and just need to add more castor oil and of course test it on the arm beforehand.

I wouldn't really worry too much though, i'm just taking a break and applying castor oil, aloe vera, and skin moisturizer and keeping things clean. Just gotta be careful with the mixes and make sure to test.

If you look back, even melting burned his skin at the beginning.
Injury in April 2020. Onset of ED.
Started RestoreX and VED 2 months after injury.
Taking 10mg daily cialis, pentox, coq10, vit-e.
Traction (+1 inch)/VED/PGE-1/DMSO+X