How can i make sure this doesnt develop into peyronies

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Lazer1911

hello im 21 years old , last week my dumbass masturbated 2-3 times a day, 3 days in a row and i was pretty rough with it and now i have burning pain since 3 days in the middle of the ride side of my penis ,stays even if im not erect , i do not have any other physical symptoms just the pain, could this be start of peyronies? what can i do to make sure it doesnt develop into peyronies?

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Stratt_mat1

Read the survival guide thread. Get on treatments if things worsen or if you want to take preventive measures. Go to a specialist to get a professional opinion as well.  
30 yrs old, peyronies diagnosis Aug 2019. Daily pentox, cialis, arginine, traction therapies. Started with dent and pain, top half penis thinned. Upward curve from pre peyronies natural left curve.  2 inch loss of length. 8 in to 6 inches. Nightmare.

hobo_cai

Masturbation will not lead to peyronies. Don't worry. Only micro injury can cause peironies.
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skunkworks

But masturbation can cause microinjuries, so your post is not exactly useful.

@lazer1911, pentox. Also don't avoid erections, but be very gentle.
This is an emotionally destructive condition, we all have it, let's be nice to each other.

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TonySa

Skunk, masturbation does NOT cause micro injuries unless discomfort or pain are involved.
PxD 2 yrs 9/16.  Failed all treatment. 9/11/18: excision, grafting & implant Dr Karpman MtnView Ca, AMS CX 18cm + 3-1cm RTEs.
Pump failed.  2/11/20 Dr Karpman installed Titan 22cm +1cm RTE.

skunkworks

So you accept that masturbation can indeed cause microinjuries. Great. The absence of pain while doing something sexual is no guarantee that damage has not been done, due to adrenaline's ability to block pain.

Quote from: Lazer1911 on October 16, 2019, 06:43:28 AMi was pretty rough with it

It'd be pretty silly to suggest rough masturbation cannot cause trauma, considering how many people on this forum are here because of exactly that.
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NeoV

I think masturbation alone can cause damage without pain. That's exactly what happened to me and the dents developed over time. I had bending and discomfort after sex/masturbation quite often, but never "pain" per se. I don't think it's about microdamage so much but rather an inflammatory environment that is never allowed to heal. Arguably those are the same things.

To the OP, rest your penis completely. Eat an anti-inflammatory diet or fast (avoid things like bread, sugar, alcohol).Never binge masturbate, always be 100% erect when you do masturbate, don't tighten your pelvic area. Limit masturbation to once a week or LESS and only when you're extremely aroused.

TonySa

Ones personal experience cannot compare to medical studies.  There's no scientific evidence that normal (when erect and no discomfort or pain) even frequent, masturbation causes any problems.  In fact there is some evidence to the opposite re use it or lose it (ED) as one ages.
PxD 2 yrs 9/16.  Failed all treatment. 9/11/18: excision, grafting & implant Dr Karpman MtnView Ca, AMS CX 18cm + 3-1cm RTEs.
Pump failed.  2/11/20 Dr Karpman installed Titan 22cm +1cm RTE.

skunkworks

Where are these studies which show masturbation cannot cause Peyronies? Please post them if they exist. If they do not, then don't talk about anecdotes vs studies, because the studies do not exist.

There are dozens if not hundreds of cases on this forum of people developing symptoms after rough masturbation.

No studies showing masturbation can cause Peyronie's does not = masturbation cannot cause Peyronie's.
This is an emotionally destructive condition, we all have it, let's be nice to each other.

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NeoV

In this day and age, I value personal experiences over studies.

I am not saying they are more reliable, but I value them more, for a huge variety of reasons. Masturbation to improvie ED or Peyronie's applies to older men who are mostly very unhealthy. This mean need to "get it up" but young men do not, generally.

I can go ahead and masturbate once a day and show you what it does to my penis. My ED will get worse, my dents will get worse, and my dick will look like a dog's chew toy. Now, I have gained "tolerance" to masturbation massively, so perhaps now with my diet and habits, I can do that without this happening. But I still seriously doubt it.

Peyronie's in my opinion, is almost like "penis use intolerance," just like some other inflammatory disorders. The evidence too, suggest Peyronie's was never a scar or lump but actually an inflammatory disorder that takes place over time, generally, even if the next day cases exist.

TonySa

Neo, I absolutely believe your experience and appreciate all the great work you do.  I'm wondering if there is perhaps the classic peyronies w plaques (of course exacerbated by inflammation) and then another type such as yours that is primarily (if not exclusively) an inflammatory process.  Otherwise, I don't see how you can see such a quick change in your penis?  If it's plaque you don't see a quick response to any treatment.  I'd be very interested to get your thoughts on this.  I just think it's such a disservice to those going through this devastating condition to expect them all to give up sexual pleasure IF not needed.  perhaps one could try nofap and if they see no improvement to not worry about that approach.
And skunk, yes, I will add gentle-not rough-should be ok if no discomfort (doesn't have to be pain) and when done erect..
PxD 2 yrs 9/16.  Failed all treatment. 9/11/18: excision, grafting & implant Dr Karpman MtnView Ca, AMS CX 18cm + 3-1cm RTEs.
Pump failed.  2/11/20 Dr Karpman installed Titan 22cm +1cm RTE.

this_life

can someone just read through this and not claik it is absolute insanity and that peyronies is not worse than most(not all) cancers? what are we going to do, just stop masturbation? at 60, sure, at 20, why not put a bullet in the brain instead? i have read this numerous times on this forum now and i want to pose the following wuestion, what is the point of having a penis in the first place if it is so fragile that you cannot use it like a normal man? what is the poi t then and why do we not all get implants the moment we have gotten this disease of terror?


people here are not suggesting to limit it during accute stage no, they suggest to mostly give up sexual nature alltogether.

i want anyonr reading this to read throguh neovs comment here

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I can go ahead and masturbate once a day and show you what it does to my penis. My Erectile Dysfunction will get worse, my dents will get worse, and my dick will look like a dog's chew toy. Now, I have gained "tolerance" to masturbation massively, so perhaps now with my diet and habits, I can do that without this happening. But I still seriously doubt it."

what the hell? once a day is an absolute minimum to boot for most young men. csn you explain yourself neo? come on, this is pure insanity. okso you can stop it from getting worse, just become an asexual mob? is that the solution? then why am i still breathing, i wish every day that god may exchange my peyronies for cancer or other devastating illness becsuse this is such a joke of a consition and i curse every urologist that has refused to treat me, may they get this condition also
diagnosed in early 2020
shortening and indentation with dorso-lateral curvature
mild to medium ED. tried cialis and ved without any benefits, even with injury from ved