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Author Topic: Peyronie's for two years...almost cured in four day's of treatment.  (Read 607 times)

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I have had Peyronie's for two years.  I haven't lived in the USA for seven years, so I had to do a lot of research and attempts to treat it in Russia and China.  In Russia, I attempted Acetyl L-Carntine, CoQ10, vitamin E, and Alpha-Lipoic Acid (3 month course)...with no effect.  I found a Russian drug specifically for Peyronie's (unavailable in the USA) which reduced (not eliminated) pain, but did nothing for the curve.  I also tried castor oil and a vibrating toothbrush, both with no help.

Then I moved to China.  In China I began seeing an acupuncture doctor for diabetic neuropathy.  One day I decided to ask him if he could treat Peyronie's.  He said he'd never done so, but had literature about it, and he'd attempt to treat it according to his literature.  After four treatments the curve was almost over-corrected!  Now there is a 1% curve, but a slight bump (probably the plaque).  I will now try manual stretching and the toothbrush again (to break up the plaque).  But acupuncture was the key to cure the curve. 

Seek an acupuncture doctor who will treat it!  If you can't find one, make a trip to China!  Seriously!!!  And the cost of four treatments for Peyronie's cost $24.  A visa and flight will be an additional cost, but well worth it!  I live near Beijing, and would be happy to take you to my doctor if you decide to come.  Or find a Chinese acupuncture doctor in the USA.  It's rather intense...it feels like a 9-volt battery inside your penis for about 1 second (x4 treatments), and then the curve is gone.  Truly, truly amazing!  No needles are inserted in the penis.  One is inserted and removed below the belly button, then you flip, and one needle is inserted (and removed when you feel the "electricity" in your penis) in the upper butt cheek on both sides.  Crazy...but effective, efficient, and cheap. 
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Re: Peyronie's for two years...almost cured in four day's of treatment.
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2019, 09:19:01 AM »

Seriously!, this is your first post and surprise, your cured of Peyronie's, Huh!  :) :)

Perhaps you would be so kind as to provide before and after treatment images so we can all see this wonderous result. Perhaps you could provide copies of that so called literature. No one posting here should give false hopes to some of those who are desperate, what is your motivation?

Paul  :)
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Re: Peyronie's for two years...almost cured in four day's of treatment.
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2019, 09:50:21 AM »

I only joined to post my experience.  I visited this website several times before (how I learned about supplements).
The literature is, of course, in Chinese.  I didn't ask to view it personally.  In China, acupuncture doctors are a step above traditional doctors because they must first study medicine, and then acupuncture.  I've never asked an endocrinologist to view the literature they have regarding diabetes treatment, so the thought never entered my head. 

I have been trying to post pictures for 20 minutes.  NOT very user-friendly.  Can you advise how?
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Re: Peyronie's for two years...almost cured in four day's of treatment.
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2019, 10:13:56 AM »

Hi docebo, I have sent you a message regarding posting of images and I want to apologise if my post came off as unfriendly, that was never my intention, please keep posting (if you wish) and take care.
Paul.
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2019, 10:59:02 AM »

I received your message, and thank you for the information.

I understand your skepticism, absolutely!  And being a "newbie" from the get-go, claim to be near-cured.  I get it.
Again, I read here for a long time as a guest, and got some information about supplemental treatment, which just didn't help me.

It was just chance that I ended up in China...and further chance that I sought acupuncture treatment for diabetes issues...and further chance that I asked the doctor about Peyronie's treatment.

A lot of chance...but truth is stranger than fiction.
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Re: Peyronie's for two years...almost cured in four day's of treatment.
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2019, 11:16:43 AM »

Hi docebo!
Thank you so much for sharing your story. I have an indentation in my shaft on the left side where the hardenened scar tissue is. Do you think I could get my girth back? What about length? Could you gain your length back? Did it improve your erections and pain?

I'd really consider flying to Beijing to get an acupuncture treatment.
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Re: Peyronie's for two years...almost cured in four day's of treatment.
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2019, 02:42:40 PM »

Docebo,

You say that your curve is essentially gone.  You did not say if you have your pre Peyronies Disease length and girth and erections.
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Re: Peyronie's for two years...almost cured in four day's of treatment.
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2019, 02:47:10 PM »

And how much original curve did you have before acupuncture?
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2019, 08:36:13 PM »

Here are before and after pictures.  The before picture was taken over a year ago, when I first visited a doctor in Russia.  The after picture was taken yesterday, after being asked to post pictures.

I don't know the initial downward curve angle, but I'll guess 8-12%.  Yes there was length shortage, and a lot of pain during erections.
After the four treatments, the downward angle is slightly "over corrected," and there is a 1% upward curve.  I've decided to try try the Acetyl L-Carintine, CoQ10, and Alpha Lipoic Acid regime again, accompanied with sonicare toothbrush massages.  In addition, I'll also do stretching.  After a month of this regime I will return for one more acupuncture treatment.  Hopefully that will correct it entirely.  I will post the final picture in about a month.

BUT, after the four treatments I've received, I have a SLIGHT upward curve (vs. a not-slight downward curve), 1% pain happens OCCASIONALLY, and my length returned 95%.
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Re: Peyronie's for two years...almost cured in four day's of treatment.
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2019, 09:05:09 PM »

I couldn't help it.  I told my acupuncture doctor I wanted a picture to post on the Internet.  So, I've gotta do it.  I was this doctor's first Peyronie's patient.  I am more than satisfied with the results, but have hope for a little bit more result.

**UPDATE**
I have begun my regime.  I will take 1 mg Acetyl L-Carnitine, 400 mg Alpha Lipoic Acid, 100 mg CoQ10, and a propolis softgel (not sure the dosage because the label is in Chinese) TWICE per day.  Any comments / suggestions on this regime?  I just took my first dose.

I will use proExtender penis enlargement system daily, and two sonicare massages per day.  Any comments / suggestions about this regime? 
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Re: Peyronie's for two years...almost cured in four day's of treatment.
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2019, 01:55:19 AM »

Wow, nice result there  :)
Presume you mean 1 gram of ALC not 1 milligram, yes?

The Propolis 100mg x 4 times a day would be good, I have used Propolis before and, well it helps, a bit lol  :)

I have also had slight benefits with Boron and Taurine although it never is a good idea to take amino acids in isolation of others.

Be careful with traction and stretching and take it easy, a 95% return of length and girth is a fine result.
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2019, 07:46:38 AM »

I notice a couple things about you photos.  In the after photo you are holding and griping your penis very tightly.  Is there a reason for that?  It covers the base and makes it difficult to see the natural angle.

Because of the lighting and angle of the before photo it is a little difficult to compare all aspects.  I can see that the bend looks better but in the after photo it looks like there could be some narrowing of girth just about an inch before the glans.  I cannot tell if that was there in the before photo.

I was hoping for more detail on length and girth measurements such as
Before Peyronies Disease
At your worst
Now

A bend or curve of course is caused by plaque.  Straightening can be caused if plaque develops on the opposite side.  The new plaque on the opposite side acts somewhat like a Nesbit tuck.  Your penis gets straighter again but at the price of length loss.  I experienced this and ended up with an almost straight penis.
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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2019, 10:26:40 AM »

Hawk,
I never paid so much attention to my penis as since this disease...
The length now is about 95% of what it was.  At the worst, it was shortened by about 15%.  The entire girth wasn't fully effected, but as you noted, toward the tip it was.  My penis isn't 100% of what is was before Peyronie's, but there is minimally less girth towards the tip, (but at the worst point, even less).  For a while, it seemed as if my penis was deformed.  But after acupuncture, it's ALMOST back to normal.

I am doing the regime as I previously indicated (perhaps I will negate the stretching aspect?).  I am taking supplements (and yes, 1 gram of ALC twice daily, Paolo), and doing sonicare massage for 20 minutes twice daily.  Today is only the first day...so I've got one month to go before I ask for a (hopefully) last acupuncture treatment.  I will post another photo then.
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