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Cant take Pentox, please help
« on: June 24, 2019, 02:00:39 PM »

Hello and sorry for the repetition here. I have posted this same question multiple times and am not receiving an appropriate answer.

I CANNOT tolerate Pentox. After much reading here it is apparent that doing VED or traction in the active phase without Pentox causes more damage. I am required to take Pentox. But it causes side effects for me that will cause (literal) death within a few days for various cardiovascular reasons.

Are there any substitutes for Pentox? Please do not suggest Ubiquinol or L-acetyl carnitine. They cause anxiety as well.

Is there another drug that is exactly and precisely like Pentox that does not make you nervous? I can tolerate any other side effect. I don't care if it makes me grow another eyeball. I just can't elevate my heart rate.
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Re: Cant take Pentox, please help
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2019, 03:27:54 PM »

I already said this one time. Xiaflex or surgery are your only options if you are not willing to do traction. There is NO magic pill without side effects
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Re: Cant take Pentox, please help
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2019, 03:44:46 PM »

Bubba, I respect you, but please I am asking others here. I AM willing to do traction. I am doing it right now as I write this. I ONLY need advice on an alternative to Pentox. If it doesn't exist, then please say so, and I will stop asking. I will consider xiaflex after other options have been exhausted. And like I said, I don't care about other side effects. I can take anything, pain, nausea, headaches. I can do that standing on my head. But psychosis I can't do.
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44 y.o. Single. Onset of symptoms (pain-stinging like a wasp) @ 6/2018. No sudden injury. Curve developed slowly. 40 deg. dorsal. Torsion to left. flaccid. Xiaflex rd. 1 10/7 and 10/10. PMP traction, heat, VED, arginine, cialis, lipoic acid, vit. K2.

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Re: Cant take Pentox, please help
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2019, 06:08:06 PM »

Maybe potaba, but prob no other options.  You can do well without it as others have done.
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Re: Cant take Pentox, please help
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2019, 01:31:15 AM »

how about delivering it directly to your penis via hydrophoresis?
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Re: Cant take Pentox, please help
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2019, 03:04:23 PM »

Hey Samsung,

I am no doctor, but it is broadly known that PTX and CoQ10 (Ubiquinol) are the most common and promising supplements.
PTX is about blood flow. If you can't take it, nor its alternatives you could perhaps try hyperthermia or vitamin D (for its proven endothelial function). Traction and VED is beneficial for some men in the active phase (with or without PTX), for others it is the opposite. Peyronies Disease is a very individual condition. If you're not convinced about it being beneficial, or you don't trust it, I wouldn't get started with it, but that's my opinion.

Best of luck,

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Re: Cant take Pentox, please help
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2019, 03:41:34 PM »

Hi young guy, is like to comment that VED/traction are helpful fir most men.  Studies support it as do members here in the forum.  Only a few (albeit vocal) guys here claim it is “the opposite”.  Also both (esp traction)  has been shown to be helpful in both the active and stabile phases (even for some cases w calcification).  Thxs
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Re: Cant take Pentox, please help
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2019, 09:25:27 AM »

Hey Samsung,

You mentioned "cardiovascular" on the reason why you can't take Pentox?

Do you have an underlying heart problem? I've got cardiovascular problems myself and was looking into Pentox & the effects on the heart.

If anyone else can answer/have experience on this that would be so helpful,

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Re: Cant take Pentox, please help
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2019, 09:53:00 AM »

I do not have an underlying heart problem except for slightly elevated bp and occasional arrhythmia. Pentox makes my heart rate increase greatly as well as blood pressure. And it causes panic and rage. But to an extreme degree.

I would talk to your doctor about it. I don't have any medical advice to give. It affects some people and others not so much. I think it gives everyone gastrointestinal and immune problems but everyone is different. Most seem to tolerate it.
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44 y.o. Single. Onset of symptoms (pain-stinging like a wasp) @ 6/2018. No sudden injury. Curve developed slowly. 40 deg. dorsal. Torsion to left. flaccid. Xiaflex rd. 1 10/7 and 10/10. PMP traction, heat, VED, arginine, cialis, lipoic acid, vit. K2.

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Re: Cant take Pentox, please help
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2019, 02:56:26 PM »

Thanks for replying Samsung,

I will be contacting my doctor soon to ask if it's okay for my underlying Heart Problem.

Thanks again,
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Re: Cant take Pentox, please help
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2019, 07:00:11 PM »

The dose often makes the poison. Just try very small doses and take maybe more often.
POTABA,  as Tony says, is a good option as it is indicated similar.

Pentox is a;
Phosphodiesterase inhibitor; prevents fibroblast proliferation and collagen/elastin deposition; increases fibrinolytic activity
So anything indicated with these might be used instead. A bit of research on google might bring up something you can post and we can discuss.
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