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Re: Stepone's Implant Journal
« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2019, 05:34:36 PM »

Surgeon was Dr Lentz in Raleigh NC. Duke Hospital
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« Reply #51 on: June 27, 2019, 03:15:03 PM »

Yep. My total bill was also in the 70,000 range with an observation night in hospital. My cost in copays was around 900 or so.

Not sure what it would be if you paid it yourself, but I would have to know up front the cost before surgery.
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Re: Stepone's Implant Journal
« Reply #52 on: June 27, 2019, 11:37:39 PM »

Those that pay Dr. Eid out of pocket pay about $20,000 for the surgeon, hosp, anesthesia, everything.  I think.  I am sure Pfract has the exact figures.
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Re: Stepone's Implant Journal
« Reply #53 on: June 28, 2019, 05:52:24 PM »

Is 70,000 the stated charges or what the insurance company actually paid (usually much less).
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Re: Stepone's Implant Journal
« Reply #54 on: June 28, 2019, 07:26:20 PM »

The hospital hasn’t been paid yet. I have only seen that the surgeon was paid which was about $5000.00. Dr. Eids charges are similar to Dr. Kramer in Baltimore. I think it’s outrageous to
Pay $20k out of pocket, when mine was under $2k, including the anesthesia.
I am so thankful to have a good Medicare plan.
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Re: Stepone's Implant Journal
« Reply #55 on: June 28, 2019, 07:38:57 PM »

20K is the entire charge out of pocket with NO insurance.  Usually, men coming in from out of the country.

With insurance and Medicare, I paid nothing for Dr. Eid.
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Re: Stepone's Implant Journal
« Reply #56 on: July 26, 2019, 07:33:14 AM »

It’s nearly 90 days since my implant.
I will take some pics soon, when the color improves, after a recent bruising.
But my overall opinion is, I wished I had known about implants prior to my Nesbit surgery and I would not have lost 1.5 inches because of the Nesbit.
So my thought is stop getting Nesbit surgery and go immediately to an implant.
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Re: Stepone's Implant Journal
« Reply #57 on: July 26, 2019, 08:19:39 AM »

I never had prior surgery because my bend never got that severe in one direction but I would have to agree with your conclusion.
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« Reply #58 on: July 26, 2019, 07:46:47 PM »

Yes, I agree, Stepone. Certainly in my case I wish I had jumped straight to implant and i’d have saved over an inch in length. I do feel a real sense of sympathy for those who feel that an implant is a final solution they’d sooner avoid until they have to - keeping their erections as natural as possible, or hope of erections, maybe. I just know that, when all is said and done, and having had great sex now with an implant, I wish I’d known about having an inflatable implant when my curvature and peyronies was as bad as it was over the last 3-4 years. There’s a stigma about the implant process that is fully understandable but really unfair and actually quite ignorant. It would have saved me so much stress if I’d known about it and got it done 3-4 years ago. An erection on demand, rock hard, perfectly straight, stays hard after ejaculation, and is within your own skin and so hides the bionics that lie underneath. It’s the same as the best silicone boobs that money can buy for a woman with a flat chest - no cheap short cut but the very best. Enhances psychological state of mind 100 fold. When my exsicion and grafting failed and the surgeon said “afraid we’re going to have to now move to an implant solution” I could only think “well, yeah, bring it one. I just want a dick I can use with my wife so please can we do this, like, now?”
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« Reply #59 on: July 31, 2019, 09:56:39 PM »

Plus one to that response. I wish I had done it when Erectile Dysfunction started. I would be packing my 7 inches still. Happy where I am. It could have been a lot worse. At least I can pump up to over 6 and girth is back.

We use it quite a bit all things considered with my wife's health issues. Either way we are both happy. Something happens to either of us we have have a good 4.5 months.  Sex at 3 weeks after implant. First couple no sex but no big deal. Nothing worth having is easy. No idea what her upcoming surgeries will bring up. We were farther apart before implant. Now we are closer again.

I know some will say, I might be superficial with sex. Nope, we just enjoyed it, when it stopped we were more like close friends. She thought I did not find her attractive. Nope, still want to rip her clothes off. Before implant, I just could do not much about it. I would do oral on her and she could orgasm. She would try on me and I was always soft. Thought it was her.

She has no problem with me pumping up at all. I tell her I want to be buried in her. That is what she wants to hear. This implant is the bomb. We both love it. We do not use it as much as either likes. Health issues suck but when the stars line up and we use it. It is fin amazing.

Oh. In answer to earlier question. Ins got billed for over 70,000, after everything was paid cost were right at 30,000. So about 40,000 got written off by insurance.

Sorry to hijack your thread a bit stepone. I will update mine soon.
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Re: Stepone's Implant Journal
« Reply #60 on: August 08, 2019, 03:31:33 PM »

It’s been about 100 days since my Implant surgery, I had my 3 month check up this week and I went over a few things with Dr. Lentz in Raleigh, NC about my "new" penis, such as pumping, etc. He assured me that my penis would only get better as time goes on. He said most men say, their new penis reaches maximum size and satisfaction at about a year.
My overall feeling about penile implants is that they need to be talked about more, particularly to prevent loss of length and girth in Peyronies Disease patients.
I had a penile fracture in 2014. I lived near a major metropolitan area, but it took me five urologists to find a urologist that was experienced with Peyronies Disease enough to really understand what I needed to improve my sex life, and even that urologist was not trained enough to recommend a penile implant vs. the Nesbit straightening which is what I received in 2015. The urologist that performed my Nesbit did a good job of straightening it and actually adding a slight upward bend, but at a cost of losing length and girth.
I truly believe had the urologists discussed an implant, I would have gone with the implant instead of the Nesbit which stole almost 1.5 inches from my length and .5 inches from my girth. Urologists need to be educated first in Peyronies Disease and then secondly on implants. Implants preserve and actually can add to the length and girth of a penis.
I had my Titan Implant “installed” in April 2019, the doctor was great and the overnight care was wonderful. No problems obtaining refills for pain pills, and always the opportunity to communicate with my physician or staff when I needed. I had my procedure at Duke Hospital in Raleigh NC by Dr. Lentz. Last year he performed over 145 implants, not sure what he will be doing this year.
When I first had my implant “installed”, I thought what have I done. It’s not an easy surgery to recover from, even though some guys will say, Oh I was fine after 30 days. I honestly feel it was very tough, lots of manageable pain, lots of embarrassing situations of trying to hide the “new” penis in my pants. Lots of discomfort and just a lot of work. Even the second month was tough, with lots of underwear malfunctions, pain at the pump site when I sat, and just an overall discomfort of the pump fighting my testicles in my scrotum.
But magically as each day went by, there was less pain, and at +90 days, there is only minor discomfort upon occasion.
The most important thing is that sex is back to 100 percent satisfaction. I no longer wonder if I can get an erection. I no longer worry that once I get an erection, how long will it work? Will I lose my erection before I pop? Will I satisfy my spouse?
I can ejaculate and still stay hard. I can stay hard for how ever long it takes to bring both of us to a wonderful enjoyable ecstasy. The awkwardness of pumping grows smaller, while my penis grows larger.
After my Nesbit surgery, my penis shrunk In length and girth. Coincidentally my testosterone levels dropped too, but even after I started TRT, I still couldn’t always maintain an erection. Even though the urologists tested for leakage, they thought it could be managed with Viagra and then injections into the penis. What a disaster, because after almost a year of sex being at about 50% successful, it was a lot of work which hammered at my sexual well being. Even though I had been on the Peyronies website and read a lot, I thought penile implants were for only last resorts and wow was I wrong. I only wished I had known about implants prior to my Nesbit and 3 years of suffering and a loss of length would have never happened. I am happy now, this new penis works like a charm, LOL.
But it is what it is, I can’t change the past.
You can search back to some of my pics after before my Nesbit surgery and after.
I have included the most recent penis shots. One shows my penis soft and the other erect.
My measurements after Nesbit and before the Titan implant were.
Before Nesbit Erect Length 7.75, girth at base 5.25, Middle 5.0, glans 6.25
After Nesbit Erect Length 6.25, girth at base 4.5, Middle 4.25, glans 5.50
After Titan Implant Erect Length 6.50, girth at base 5.25, Middle 5.25, glans 6.0
As you can see, I have a little more length than after the Nesbit. My girth is now back to pre-Nesbit and strong, and my glans is slightly larger.
Needless to say I am happy and so is my spouse. The girth restoration really makes the difference, but I do miss that extra length, but the spouse is more than pleased.
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« Reply #61 on: August 08, 2019, 04:27:56 PM »

Thanks for a great update there, Stepone. Very good of you to let everyone into your experiences over the last 100 days in such detail. This level of detail is very useful to all new implantees and can only serve as a terrific reference point to allay worries and stresses for newbies and relatively experienced alike. Great pictures you’ve shared there for everyone too. I must say that being circumcised clearly makes your glans appear quite large - lucky guy! Clearly the inflated photo shows what can only be described as a very healthy looking penis. Again, you’re very lucky with that outcome. Not only does it look like a magnificent beast LOL but your wife is delighted with it too. Isn’t it great having stress free sex again. A rock hard penis for as long as you like!

I like how you describe those first 4 weeks as simply hell. There can be no getting away from that for sure, and like you, I went through hell till week 4, but like you say, it’s only right that others get to hear that all of it comes good. The pain gets lighter until one day you just stop worrying about it. In fact, it’s not like that. You don’t stop thinking about it as such, it’s more that your body slowly heals and you find yourself starting to do little things every day that you thought you’d never imagine having the ability to do again. Before you know it, life is pretty much normal again by 6 weeks and by 8 weeks there’s not really anything you cannot do. The underwear experience is a laugh isn’t it? I’ve still got no idea what underwear I want to wear cos none of it seems to suit. So much so I now, and have done for weeks, just sleep without any. Much easier to manoeuvre by ‘semi’ around during the night.

Delighted to hear you’re having such a good, fulfilling sex life again with your wife. “Fill your boots” as my surgeon told me and after 2 years without meaningful sex, my wife and I are back into our old, enjoyable ways together. And you know what? We were making love the other night and I was the most relaxed I’ve ever been. No worries about when I was gonna ejaculate and it would all be over much to my wife’s disappointment. I just lay back and let her do her thing. I came, she never knew, and we just kept going. Amazing, bionic, sex.

Great to hear from you, Stepone.

Take care.

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Re: Stepone's Implant Journal
« Reply #62 on: August 08, 2019, 05:10:59 PM »

I love these updates from you guys (or Y'all if you are from the south).  Not only does it do my heart good to know another brother, and often a couple are back to stress-free intimacy, I love it that thousands of others that have no clue where to turn for help will find the answers they desperately seek when they read your journals.  Intimacy is the mortar that holds relationships together.  It helps us through the tough times and keeps people interested in life.  While you can have intimacy without intercourse and have intercourse without much intimacy, the two together just cannot be beaten.

We all need to keep in mind that there are more than a few men (unlike us whimps) that go through this and never take anything but Tylenol. Unfortunately, I was determined I was going to be one of those but I was quickly humbled. 

One concluding thought.  While I never had a Nesbit or a graft, I am coming to think they are seldom the answer.  I tread carefully because maybe there are situations where they are the best solution but I increasingly hate to see men go that route.  I continue to bite my tongue and leave to you brothers who have been down that road to voice your views.

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« Reply #63 on: August 08, 2019, 06:11:57 PM »

Roddy, you have shared a lot and posted your pics, so I couldn’t help but try to meet your standards, lol.
But in regards to my glans, I have found that everyone always wants what others have. I personally wished I was uncut. I have always heard that uncut men have greater sensitivity in their glans. I also heard that uncut men can cum quicker. Sometimes I wear out the mrs. She can be a quick climaxer, but we always work it out, lol.
Sex is such an intimate thing, and in reality each couple seems to
Learn what works best.
Another thing, when I reached puberty, my penis would hurt when it was hard. I remember putting cream on it to stretch the skin. I think they cut too much off, when I was an infant. Lol
Hawk, thanks again for being the man for this site. You are helping a lot of men.
I know you can’t really take a position on some things, but I think Nesbit and other similar surgeries should be last step, not the first.
I also think, patients should be informed of all available surgeries, not just what that doctor is using. Not one of the 5 urologists I met with ever mentioned an implant. It was this website that educated me. It was st gust point, that I started my quest for a good implant surgeon. I am again thankful for Dr. Lentz.
And always best regards for you too Mr. Hawk.
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« Reply #64 on: August 08, 2019, 11:57:20 PM »

Stepone, I am probably one of the few here that were cut at birth by the butcher and have tried foreskin restoration. I also have friends who have tried it too with much more success. Having tried both ways, cut and covered, I have to say a covered glans IS much more sensitive. If I could keep it that way, I would and it does have to be covered a long time to regain that level of sensitivity. This is not something that happens in a week though a month will give a hint at it. If they are still around, there is an organization that goes by the acronym NORM that can provide more information for those that are curious. Cheers.
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« Reply #65 on: August 10, 2019, 10:50:18 PM »

Stepone, for some reason unread posts put me back to March when you were trying to get the insurance to pay. Fast forward to here and it is like you have stepped into a wonderful new world. Your explanation why doctors should be better versed on options for treating is excellent.  I am very pleased you've had this great outcome and hope your willie does not have to go through the slaw shredder ever again. Thankyou for naming your doctor AND explaining your concerns to him.  SOMETIMES that makes a difference. I had one that I had a discussion with about H.I.V. 9 years ago. He was so touched by what some of us have gone through that he went back to school and got a specialty degree to better assist in treatment. Recently an employee of his was also sent back to school for a specialty degree too. For the record, this is a tiny segment of his practice, but he was so touched by the poor and inadequate treatment so many of us received that he thought he would improve it.  Nothing more than a simple conversation over the counter while we were killing time one day made the difference.   Cheers.
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« Reply #66 on: October 04, 2019, 04:46:10 PM »

Well, I think it's been about 5 months a few days since I had my Titan Implant.
Regrets, I wish I had it 5 years ago, as it would have saved me length, and no sex, and depression.
BUT, I had it and it is great.
Sure, it's not perfect, but it is GREAT!
My new measurements are leveling out.
Good news is I managed to gain .25 inches in length.
I am now 6.75" long bone pressed.
My girth has leveled off at 5.25" from glans going towards base and 5.75" girth at the base.
My girth gains have been great, I love this new penis of mine.
My wife loves it, as do I, it's the weapon of choice, LOL.
So yes, I still have a little tenderness sometimes, but rock hard is amazing.
After I reach my climax, I can still keep going for however long it takes to bring the mrs to her climax.
I am on TRT too, as I have had low testosterone for years, so that helps for sure with my libido.
But when we start things up, I am like a little kid in a candy store.
So yes, it was rough for me at first, everyone is a little different, but things continue to get better and I cannot emphasize enough how this implant has changed my life for the better.
Oh yeah, most important, I never worry anymore if I can maintain an erection. I just pump it up and ready to go, my worries are gone. Goodbye to pills and injections and disappointment.
Wishing everyone well and I will stay in touch.
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« Reply #67 on: October 05, 2019, 05:16:04 PM »

Thank you for sharing this with us stepone. Glad to see you are doing well. I hope members that are on the brink of it read it and feel motivated to go forth.


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« Reply #68 on: October 08, 2019, 05:27:01 PM »

Great update, Stepone. So many things to be thankful for. You sound as though you’re having a great time again, with all that amazing sex and erections on demand. Unless you’ve experienced it first hand it’s difficult to explain. No regrets and no negative thoughts to share. Well done and keep enjoying your new lease of life.
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