Implant questions (about size)

[sonnyjim]

I've heard a lot of different things about what your final implant size would be so I just want to clear this up with you guys and find out what:

1) your implant size was when compared to pre-implant size (with injection)

2) is stretched flaccid size likely to be your final size or is it less than that.

3) if scar tissue is not removed does it stretch after you have an implant? Doesn't make sense if deformities or narrowing will still be there afterwards.

[tomas1]

I think your implanted length should be nearly exactly the same as it was with tri-mix.
My doctor never did a stretch test or asked my length prior to surgery.
I was told he injected me while I was asleep and I ended up almost exactly the same length as before.
You may need to subtract a fraction of an inch due to possible glans not being engorged.
I should have been implanted with the LGX since I didn't have Peyronies or scarring that I know of.
That's another story though. I guess I'll get used to the constant "semi" and maybe as the cylinders age, It will be less a  concern.

[SW01]

Tri mix was right at 6. Stretch was 6.25. Ved 6.75.

Good old days i was right at 7 really hard and 6 girth.

5 weeks since my titan implant. 6 length and 5 girth now. Happy and hard. Plan on trimix. With cyclingng doc said curve and length even should get better over next year. Pictures of my curve and after surgery are on another post.

[Hawk]

SonnyJim,

A man's outcome will depend on different issues, one of the most important being the surgeon.  Almost all of the men that have posted journals on this forum detail their measurements in their journals.  I suggest you read those journals to properly educate yourself about all aspects of implants.

Remember, a dick's implant size does not matter much when compared to that same man when he could NOT have intercourse.  A 4 1/2" dick that works for as long as you or your partner want is better than a 9" dick that won't that can't get/keep an erection or is too deformed for intercourse.

If you want in-depth details on my measurements then read the attachment on the first post at this link Comparison: Natural Prime, Bionic, Pre-op - Peyronies Society Forums

[sonnyjim]

Thanks for your replies guys.

Hawk, your final size confuses me because if the glans doesn't expand anymore and you have still gained length versus pre implant where's the gain come from?

So after I have implant surgery my glans will not engorge at all? :S

My issue is that my penis is very numb and I was thinking this could be because of lack of blood flow to the glans so maybe it's wishful thinking to believe an implant would fix that issue. Would I just have a numb penis that gets hard ?

Also I agree with your point that 4 and a half inches is better than 9 that doesn't get hard but how happy would you be if you lost that much size? I am about 6.75 and ideally don't want to lose any more length.

[Pfract]

I've heard a lot of different things about what your final implant size would be so I just want to clear this up with you guys and find out what:
1) your implant size was when compared to pre-implant size (with injection)
2) is stretched flaccid size likely to be your final size or is it less than that.
3) if scar tissue is not removed does it stretch after you have an implant? Doesn't make sense if deformities or narrowing will still be there afterwards.

I saw your post and unfortunately could not respond right away. See... You keep saying I am on a witch hunt when it comes to you and that I keep busting your balls for no reason. You also say that you spend hours reading and that there's nothing that you can do to help your situation and that you are lost. And then... You come over here and make a post like this. And I wonder... I wonder if you do this on purpose just to upset the staff, if you really don't understand or if there's something else that unfortunately I am missing.

You had three members posting their implant diaries on this very board. P-diddy, curved and SW01. All of them had curvature and Ed, one of them had an urethral injury, another had very severe plaques and a very unusual curvature and all of them where very very generous and kind to post pictures of such a private matter in hopes of encouraging and helping out other members of the board suffering with this that maybe considering an implant next. All of them talk about and show proof of their size. Pre and post op.

And what do you do? You post this. Me reading it instantly gives me the impression that you do not read anything of what was posted here. Adding insult to injury, everytime I call you out on your posts and untrue statements you never come back for a rebuttal and just show up weeks later with more bogus questions....  Why do you do this?

[Hawk]

Bottom line is if you have a good surgeon you will not lose any length.  If you lost length from Peyronies Disease you are likely to gain a little of it back.  It is not complicated.  The difference in an engorged glans and one not engorged adds no more than 1 CM to your penis in length.  Probably less.  

[sonnyjim]

My biggest worry is not regaining my sensation. My penis is basically 99% numb and I don't get pleasurable feeling from masturbation (even with Viagra and constant stimulation)

I'm wondering if scar tissue can cause this and if implant surgery will improve this at all or maybe I will have to have a completely different surgery first.

Sorry if I'm asking too many questions but these are questions that only we, who have this problem can answer.  

[Hawk]

I don't think any of us would have any way of knowing the likelihood that an implant would restore sensation.  I do not know exactly what made you lose sensation and I can think of no means by which an implant could possibly restore it.  I doubt anyone else on here will have even a guess about this.  What do the surgeons you have talked to say about it?

[sonnyjim]

They keep playing it down but I will be seeing Dr Ralph who is regarded as one of the best in the UK so I'll see what his opinion is.

It could be nerve damage I guess, because I have very little sensation and white spots on the glans from what I guess is lack of blood flow. I haven't seen anyone else with this issue on these forums so maybe I'm a rare case.

Even when I had injections for my ultrasound and MRI my penis never felt normal or how it used to feel when erect. It felt like, empty, like I had no desire to actually do anything with it.

I was hoping to find someone with similar problems here and it's worrying that nobody else has heard about this.

[Pfract]

Well, sensation is one thing your erection is another. When are you seeing Dr Ralph?  

[sonnyjim]

Next month, it was the soonest appointment I could get on the NHS.

I was thinking more blood flow = more sensation but haven't seen anyone else here complaining about having little sensation... It's worrying.

Maybe the scar tissue is pressing on nerves or something. I don't know. I hope this can be sorted out but the urologist I was seeing since the beginning has done nothing for me, he couldn't even answer my questions.

It has taken this long for me to get a referral to somebody else.  

[Pfract]

You haven't seen but there are accounts of that online for sure. Even I have less sensibility after my fracture and subsequent minor ones.

I repeat.... There are things you should get acquainted with, namely:

www.auanet.org/guidelines/erectile-dysfunction-(ed)-guideline

It is a huge wall of text, but explains in, thoroughly what doctors, should and should not do to access Erectile Dysfunction. The American urological association is the best in the world. This was even said to me by a doctor when I was in Portugal and Totally agree.

[TonySa]

Broken link

[Pfract]

The system keeps renaming the link, because of the ed word. I don't know if it can be disabled. I'll try inserting a link

[sonnyjim]

Will it work if you private message me it?

Also, how much sensation have you lost? I never had a fracture (as far as I know) but literally have zero sensation now. My penis is just, lifeless, that's the only way to describe it.

[Hawk]

Just cut and paste the link.  When you do replace "Erectile Dysfunction) with the letters "E" and "D" with no space between them.

[Dxoutkast]

They keep playing it down but I will be seeing Dr Ralph who is regarded as one of the best in the UK so I'll see what his opinion is.

It could be nerve damage I guess, because I have very little sensation and white spots on the glans from what I guess is lack of blood flow. I haven't seen anyone else with this issue on these forums so maybe I'm a rare case.

Even when I had injections for my ultrasound and MRI my penis never felt normal or how it used to feel when erect. It felt like, empty, like I had no desire to actually do anything with it.

I was hoping to find someone with similar problems here and it's worrying that nobody else has heard about this.

I heard worst cases than yours, i heard all of this, ppl did after jelqing. YOUR desperation is letting you to keep in this situation, until you don't stop what you're doing and change your subconscious mindset and focusing on the worst" to "HEAL", you won't gonna cure. And I'm talking about ppl who were at the same situation u are and healed in 2 weeks or 6 months. Now, me, after jelqing, in 1 week all my sensations are getting back, erections too, everything even better. Yes it's all in your mind, your erections, your case is of pure stress because you keep stressing yourself over something that isn't even dramatic, it's as simple as u imagine. Your penis shouldve been back been years already, but your mentality is keeping you low and your worries makes your Erectile Dysfunction and small dick. My dick is almost full normal, and I did jelqs too and abs and had some f up crap happen, but it's healing, and I'm allowing it to heal

Yes it will, and should've already if u allow it to. Your case is of pure stress which causes pelvic floor muscle dysfunction

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[Alibaba]

I doubt an implant will help nerve function. I also seriously doubt that yoga, zoning out while meditating and humming, or singing bowls will help anyone's penile issues but if that is what restored you into a F^@$!ng machine, fabulous for you. Cheers.  

[Dxoutkast]

I doubt an implant will help nerve function. I also seriously doubt that yoga, zoning out while meditating and humming, or singing bowls will help anyone's penile issues but if that is what restored you into a F^@$!ng machine, fabulous for you. Cheers.

No, sir. PF dysfunction is cured after you relax your muscles. It's not only me, many others cured it with just sitting down and letting the body heal itself. Just don't stress and it will. Don't ask me how, the body's healing power is amazing. And yes, YOGA does help, it helos by streching the pelvic floor, combined with some other exercises to strenghten the PF.

[Pfract]

Dxout kast: your post makes absolutely no sense whatsoever... What exactly are you trying to say here?  

[Alibaba]

Dxoutkast, please link some science based studies to your claim so I don't feel like your clapper has rang your bell too many times. It would be fabulous if your claims were true, but if they are, why has that not been standard practice for eons?  What do you know that no broken individual, nor doctor, nor researcher has ever learned?  Do you have photographic proof? Anything verifiable?  Cheers.  

[TDix]

I'll chime in and say that I have been getting pelvic floor therapy for the past 5 weeks to help heal from my surgery and it has eliminated the soreness and pain.

[Hawk]

TDix,  Do you mean it helped eliminate the pain from surgery?

How would you know how sore would you have been right now if you had not had the therapy?  It is to be expected that we all heal from the pain of surgery.

[TDix]

All I'll say is that I had pain and soreness for 4 months post surgery, and after 3 weeks of therapy most of it was gone.  2 weeks later all of it is gone.  I still have numbness however

[sonnyjim]

I heard worst cases than yours, i heard all of this, ppl did after jelqing. YOUR desperation is letting you to keep in this situation, until you don't stop what you're doing and change your subconscious mindset and focusing on the worst" to "HEAL", you won't gonna cure. And I'm talking about ppl who were at the same situation u are and healed in 2 weeks or 6 months. Now, me, after jelqing, in 1 week all my sensations are getting back, erections too, everything even better. Yes it's all in your mind, your erections, your case is of pure stress because you keep stressing yourself over something that isn't even dramatic, it's as simple as u imagine. Your penis shouldve been back been years already, but your mentality is keeping you low and your worries makes your Erectile Dysfunction and small dick. My dick is almost full normal, and I did jelqs too and abs and had some f up crap happen, but it's healing, and I'm allowing it to heal

Yes it will, and should've already if u allow it to. Your case is of pure stress which causes pelvic floor muscle dysfunction

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It has been three years.

When do you think im going to "heal".

Seriously, I would of laughed if your post wasn't so ridiculously stupid.  

[Hope77]

Next month, it was the soonest appointment I could get on the NHS.

I was thinking more blood flow = more sensation but haven't seen anyone else here complaining about having little sensation... It's worrying.

Maybe the scar tissue is pressing on nerves or something. I don't know. I hope this can be sorted out but the urologist I was seeing since the beginning has done nothing for me, he couldn't even answer my questions.

It has taken this long for me to get a referral to somebody else.

For lack of sensation, do a Nofap (No PMO). This involves abstaining from porn masturbation and even orgasm. Doing this allows many people regain sensitivity.. You can visit nofap. com to learn more. There are many success stories.

[sonnyjim]

I think it is where the scar tissue is that is causing the lack of sensation because no matter what I've tried it remains the same.