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VED purchasing and supply questions
« on: January 14, 2010, 10:44:52 AM »

I have been reading through the various discussions of devices on the board, and I am not sure what would be best for me.  I do not have a curve to the left or right... but I do have a really bad dented area, right below the head of my penis.  The dented/weakened area goes around the entire shaft - and it creates the "hourglass" look that I have heard people talk about here.  Just above that, there is an exaggerated curve - but the curve goes backwards (like a bannana).  My penis always had a slight curve like that, but now with the dent, it looks a lot more odd and exaggerated.  Anyway, I am a little afraid to buy the FastSize device bc it seems like that will stretch things too much (and it's very weak and thinned out now, just below the head).  But, maybe that is the right thing ?   It just seemed like that would make more sense for someone with a left or right curve.   I have lost length, but the girth and this "ring" of weak tissue are the more major issues to me.  I've only had this dent in the last 6 mos (roughly) but I've been noticing less overall size for years actually.  The girth is most problematic.  

I don't mind spending a lot of money on a device, but I just want to make sure I get the right kind of device for my case.   Thank you for any advice.  
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Re: Finding the right device for my case
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2010, 11:27:08 AM »

Mike:

Take a good long hard look at the VED board. There are many topics there that explain what a VED is, what is does, how it works and a protocol for using them.

They have provided much needed relief to a lot of us on the forum. I have used one now for about 15 years for my Peyronies Disease as well as Erectile Dysfunction symptoms. My Erectile Dysfunction was a result of a non nerve sparing prostatectomy way back in 1995. The VED helped me regain lost dimensions as well as the Peyronies Disease symptoms. It provides a means for controlling my Erectile Dysfunction too.

So, I know that you are anxious to get started on some sort of therapy. However, be careful in what method you choose, but I strongly urge you to consider the VED therapy, so look into that right away.

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Re: Finding the right device for my case
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2010, 12:05:45 PM »

Thanks Old Man.  Yeah, I read some of it & it seemed like VED would be better in my case.  It's more expensive than fastSize though right?   Everyone seems to have a little bit different situation, so it was hard to fully understand what to do for my "dent" situation rather than the curve problem most seem to have.

I've been concerned over this for a while...thinking it would fix itself / in denial that it was that bad or even an actual disorder... but now it's worse than ever - so I finally just started taking it seriously and want to start using something to fix it. 
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2010, 01:27:26 PM »

Mike:

The weapon of choice in VEDs is the Vitality Plus three cylinder one from the Fitzz company. They will give any forum member who buys from them a promo discount if you use a code word when placing a phone order of on line order.

The web address of Fitzz is:     www.fitzz.com

The code word for forum members is:  PFORUM
This will give you the going discount. You can get the exact amount from the company when you place your order.

If you need any further help, just let me know and I will be glad to work with you.

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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2010, 01:35:03 PM »

Great - thank you!  For some reason, I thought it was $500... I have no idea why...maybe I was on some other site.  But, this one is $329 before the discount.  I hope I landed in the right spot...
http://www.fitzz.com/Three-Cylinder-Vacuum-Therapy-System-Recommended-for-Peyronies-Therapy_p_1983.html

With your Peyronies Disease, did you have a dent or just a curve situation?  I have a much worse dent/constriction than I have any kind of curve.  And as far as Erectile Dysfunction goes, I do not have hard erections...90% of the time...but I can still get erect.  So, do you think this might help either of these problems?

Oh one last question - with FastSize, they say you have to use it every day for 5hrs...which is a lot... is there similar requirements with this?  Thanks again!
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Re: Finding the right device for my case
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2010, 01:46:51 PM »


Oh one last question - with FastSize, they say you have to use it every day for 5hrs...which is a lot... is there similar requirements with this?  Thanks again!

   Not anywhere close with a VED. Read the "sticky" topic in the VED section "Protocol for 3 Cylinder Medical VED's, 26 Week". This will get you up to speed on the VED therapy. Typically you will spend 30 minutes or less per day on the protocol.
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Re: Finding the right device for my case
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2010, 04:33:06 PM »

Everyone seems to have a little bit different situation, so it was hard to fully understand what to do for my "dent" situation rather than the curve problem most seem to have.


ms1010,

hey, I have a similar presentation as you.  I noticed a dent on the right/top side about an inch below my glans last late December.  A left side dent became noticeable a few months later.  The dent is much more noticeable when I'm partially erect.  When I'm fully erect it is barely noticeable on the left side and slightly noticeable on the right side.  

I started the VED treatment last April.  My main concern was to prevent any further progression.  So far, that seems to be the case.  In fact, I also had a slight upward bend that presented itself around last January('09), maybe 25 - 30 degrees.  The upward bend appears to have gone away over last summer/fall sometime.  The dent is still there, but I can "feel" it more than I can "see" it when I'm erect.

I cannot say I have lost any size.  

In addition to the VED, I use Pentox and Viagra (every other night) and other supplements.

In addition to the disappearance of the upward bend and non-progression of the dent, my erections are much more firmer, frequent and longer lasting.

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Re: Finding the right device for my case
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2010, 08:18:56 PM »

Mike:

Yep, that is the VED I was talking about. Be sure to mention the promo code word PFORUM in your on line or phone order.

I had both curves and indentations. My curves were 45 degrees downward and 45 degrees to the right based on my penis sticking straight from my body. After about 6 months of the VED protocol, the curves were gone and another 6 months the dents receded to a point of not being visible - only felt now.

You should ask others about using the traction devices as I have never used one.

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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2010, 09:52:42 PM »

It's been a week - they haven't updated my order to reflect a tracking number.  They don't answer the phone, and they have ignored my email. 

However, they did charge my credit card!   (unlike amazon, who only charges when things ship)

Is there anywhere else to get this?
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Re: Anyone else have an issue with Fitzz.com?
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2010, 10:46:51 PM »

Some have posted regarding a delay in getting the VED from Fitzz, but I believe these are due to a supply chain issue; Fitzz getting the VED from the manufacturer, Augusta.

I think I had about a week or so delay.  It took me a couple of phone calls to get in touch with a man named Mike at Fitzz.  But, once I did contact him by phone he was very helpful and helped to track the shipment and he even called me when UPS left the package at my house.

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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2010, 04:33:36 AM »

Does Augusta not sell directly anymore?  I got mine directly through Augusta, and remember dealing with a very helpful Mike.  He pretty much went to bat for me in trying to get this thing covered under insurance, which they fought tooth and nail.  Eventually the prescription had to be amended if I remember correctly to say it was for Erectile Dysfunction, as when it was written for peyronies with that code, insurance would not cover it. Very similar to a recent experience I had when I had to get immunizations for school, they were mandatory.  It was also more than ten years since my last booster so I needed this booster shot anyway, it was well over $100.  The insurance company wouldn't cover it if the code was written as for work or school, but had to be a general code for just a regular update of the shot, even though I needed it for two occasions at once -school/and ten year update.  These are just some of the small games insurance company bureaucrats will play to save some money here and there.  I wrote appeals and fought them tooth and nail, and eventually got everything covered months later, I wrote the CEO of the company as well and badgered them until they paid my claim.  On the Soma it was worth it as it cost over $500 at the time and I had to pay it all in cash up front.

With all that being said, I'm curious mike, did your insurance cover your VED and what was the code Erectile Dysfunction, or peyronies?

I gotta say I still have my soma correct and use it, overall I think its a great pump with three different well sized cylinder, and two rubber inserts.  It is pricey but I can't say its of a cheap quality.

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Re: Anyone else have an issue with Fitzz.com?
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2010, 06:34:04 AM »

It's been a week - they haven't updated my order to reflect a tracking number.  They don't answer the phone, and they have ignored my email. 

However, they did charge my credit card!   (unlike amazon, who only charges when things ship)

Is there anywhere else to get this?

Send an email to [email protected] immediately. They absolutely have some issues with fulfilling orders (seems like sometimes they slip between the cracks, happened to me). Mark should be able to sort it out.
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2010, 10:03:51 AM »

Note to all:

Let me jump in here with my 2 cents about the delivery from Fitzz. I have personal contact with Mark at Fitzz. He is the president of the company and is striving to keep up with deliveries of the Vitality Plus three cylinder VED for forum members.

Here is what he told me on several times that is the problem with his delays: First, he buys the regular Vitality one cylinder VED package from Augusta. Second, then he buys the other two cylinders separately from Augusta and adds them to the regular Vitality package to make the Vitality Plus three cylinder VED model that he provides for Peyronies Disease patients. Third, he has problems with deliveries of the extra cylinders to make up the package, hence the delay. Apparently Augusta only orders usually enough of the extra cylinders to meet their own needs.

(Note: The old Soma Correct and now the Somaerect three cylinder VED models bought directly from the Augusta company will cost somewhere around $475 to $500 and shipping is not included.) The Vitality Plus model not lists for $329 less the PFORUM promo code is mentioned at the time of purchase with free shipping. He agreed to the promo discount for forum members as a result of our calls to him.

Mark has assured me that he will do his best to keep the delivery times down as low as possible. In most cases, he stated that one week more or less a few days is the regular delivery schedule, but allow for shipping method time, etc. I will contact him again to see if he has any further help about this situation. I will again ask him to provide delivery information to our guys, and ask him to give emails for any delays, etc.

Bottom line is this, you have to make a choice of whether to buy the higher priced VED from Augusta, or the lessor priced one from Fitzz. To my knowledge, there are no other companies that sell the Three cylinder VED. There is a company in Utah that sells the regular one cylinder VED for just $110.00 with free shipping. However, it is only one cylinder and may or may not do the desired job for Peyronies Disease symptoms. Your choice either way.

Let me know of specific problems with the Fitzz deliveries by PM and I may be able to intervene of your behalf.

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Re: Anyone else have an issue with Fitzz.com?
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2010, 11:38:14 AM »

Hello to all,

My advice is to be patient.  I just got my VED from Fitz 4 days ago.  It took longer to get than I anticipated, and I was very apprehensive about using it.  I  probably spent 2 or 3 hours reading all the posts about using VEDs on our forum and I would have never had the nerve to use it were it not for all the information posted by Old Man.  I kept thinking about "go slow" and "be patient", but I was really nervous and excited, so it was hard to do.

Anyway, I was very cautious and took it easy...no pain, no bruising, no problems so far.  I am going to try my best to follow the 26 week program and hope for the best.  By the way, I used shampoo mixed with KY as my lubricate and it really worked well.

So, I just wanted to say "thank you" to Old Man and all the other posting members for your excellent advice and instruction.

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Re: Anyone else have an issue with Fitzz.com?
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2010, 11:49:39 AM »

Thanks everyone.  Yeah, normally I'm used to at least getting the tracking number or not being charged till it ships, but since everyone on here has had similar experiences (and you know the owner personally) I am not that worried.  I buy a lot of things online...so this sounds like it's just an anomaly, but it's ok.  Also, the website is really well done, so I thought it was like a huge company with a big customer service staff.  I was surprised to just get their vmail every time...and then no email back.  Well, I'll just wait.  

Comebackid - I didn't even know I could go with my insurance for this purchase.  Regardless, it's the start of the year so I think it would be coming out of my deductible for durable medical goods - or something... Anyway, with the discount code, the cost wasn't too bad anyway.  The most annoying thing about my insurance (regarding peyronies) is that the only cover 4 viagra per month at w/ a $40 copay.  My understanding is that the PAV cocktail requires daily viagra?  I can split the 100s, but unless I take 25mg every other day (which is hard to make out of a 100 pill) then I might not be getting the benefits.
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Re: Anyone else have an issue with Fitzz.com?
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2010, 06:35:19 AM »

Amazon has set the global gold standard in product delivery and customer service.  That is part of the reason they have been growing at 15% a year, even under current economic conditions.  They have several different ways of shipping orders.  Their premium method is when they buy and stock the product and ship direct.  Companies can also pay Amazon to stock and distribute for them, or Amazon can also act as a "front man" and just send the order to the company for order processing.  One of their primary goals is to make the product purchase and delivery experience so favorable that they don't need a "customer service" department (non-value added).

I found this article educational enough to encourage my employer to consider Amazon as a new distributor for our industrial products.

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_09/b4121034637296.htm?chan=magazine+channel_in+depth

It would be great if all companies, or even more companies, followed Amazon.com's model.  In the world, they are showing everyone else how to do it best.

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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2010, 07:34:29 PM »

Just curious, what comes up on your credit card statement when you make the purchase?

Also when the package is sent, what does it say on it ?   Is it discrete  etc. ?
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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2010, 08:14:52 PM »

Wayne999- I cant remember what comes up on your credit card. I think something like fizz.com but it comes in a plain brown box with no writing on it.
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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2010, 08:33:08 PM »

wayne999:

As far as I know, Fizz ships in a plain wrapper and discreet container. Their name only probably appears on your credit card statement. They have assured me that the product will not be made known to the public in any way when shipped.

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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2010, 12:11:30 AM »

The box return address label says "FITZZ COM WAREHOUSE" and that's about it... just a cardboard box.  The credit card is billed from fitzz.com.  They sell a lot of medical devices so nobody is going to know it is a VED in there.

I did get the device, btw... so no issue... it works.  I think they just dont really have a big staff handling customer service issues (i never heard from them).   It's ok though.
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« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2010, 03:01:31 PM »

I did not order from them. All those companies try to make it easy on us poor guys - convinced as they are that most of us are simply trying to get bigger penises (nothing wrong with that).

Most of us are afraid of something like this happening:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WCvULMRUq8

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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2010, 04:31:02 PM »

Ordered my VED (Vitality OTC 3 cylinders) from Fitzz.com on the 9th Feb before the issues with Augusta. Didn't hear from them again until 21st Feb to confirm I was who i said I was with my US addresss. It was shipped on the 22 Feb and I got it overseas on the 4th of March. I was a little concerned if what I ordered would be delivered.  Well to take line from the old Top Gun movie. "They did it right".
Exactly what I ordered was inside.  Just a plain brown box with a small label with Warehouse Fitzz.com and my address.

BTW: recieved the nice discount using the code.
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« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2010, 09:53:17 AM »

I ordered mine towards the end of Feb and it arrived here in Germany last Thursday. I had to go pick it up and pay customs - the young lady at customs was more embarrassed than I was.

This replaces a single cylinder system my doctor got for me that would have cost €499 ($675) if I had not sent it back. This Vitality is much better anyway.
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« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2010, 04:56:50 PM »

Ordered mine last Saturday. It arrived UPS ground Today!
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Non avalibility of the Vitality OTC three cylinder VED from Fitzz
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2010, 04:29:02 PM »

NOTE TO ANY AND ALL MEMBERS OF THE FORUM:

THIS POST IS WRITTEN IN CAPITALS IN ORDER THAT IT MIGHT DRAW MORE ATTENTION TO THIS POST!!

AS OF AUGUST 4, 2010 AS STATED IN THE STICKY THREAD ON THIS BOARD ABOUT THE SAME SUBJECT, THE FITZZ COMPANY CAN NO LONGER SUPPLY THE THREE CYLINDER VITALITY OTC VED. DUE TO CIRCUMSTANCES BEYOND THEIR CONTROL THEY CAN NO LONGER SUPPLY THE INNER AND MEDIUM CYLINDERS TO MAKE UP THE THREE CYLINDER VED THEY HAVE PREVIOUSLY SUPPLIED TO MEMBERS OF THE FORUM.

HOWEVER, THE SINGLE CYLINDER OTC VED IS STILL AVAILABLE FROM THAT COMPANY.

THE ABOVE INFORMATION IS FURNISHED IN ORDER THAT THOSE MEMBERS DESIRING TO USE THE THREE CYLINDER PROTOCOL WILL HAVE TO OBTAIN THE EXTRA CYLINDERS ON THEIR OWN INITIATIVE.

I AM SORRY TO REPORT THAT THE ABOVE IS THE CASE. IF AND WHEN FURTHER INFORMATION RELATIVE A SOURCE FOR THE TWO EXTRA CYLINDERS BECOMES AVAILABLE, THIS POST WILL BE UPDATED.

JUST WHEN THINGS WERE BEGINNING TO DEVELOP IN THE VED THERAPY AND ITS STARTING TO BE RECOGNIZED BY MORE AND MORE UROLOGISTS AROUND THE COUNTRY, THIS HAPPENS.

RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, OLD MAN
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Re: Non avalibility of the Vitality OTC three cylinder VED from Fitzz
« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2010, 09:10:09 PM »

Old Man
I'm sure there will be some patients disappointed at this news. But we have you and others to thank for initially embarking on the 3 cylinder protocol and obtaining the co-operation of the Fitzz company to supply at the time.
We are confident this situation will work itself out , hopefully , eventually .
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Re: Non avalibility of the Vitality OTC three cylinder VED from Fitzz
« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2010, 05:44:14 AM »

There is not much a distributor (Fitzz) can do when the product's manufacturer (Augusta Medical Systems) discontinues a product.  I deal with this every day at work.  The Vitality insert sleeves have also been removed from the Augusta web site.

There are other Augusta VED products for which the insert sleeves are still available, just not as a package, and you can expect a higher overall price.  Separate closed-end cylinders (sex shop) with a vacuum pump connected by a hose is still an option.

Nesting the sleeves inside the vacuum cylinder does make for a compact package.  Thankful I purchased mine when I did. 

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Re: Non avalibility of the Vitality OTC three cylinder VED from Fitzz
« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2010, 09:34:34 AM »

Thankful I purchased mine when I did. 


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« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2010, 09:58:34 AM »

Thanks for the update. I believe that the 3 cylinder approach is indeed beneficial. Hopefully another source for smaller cylinders will be located soon.
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Re: Non avalibility of the Vitality OTC three cylinder VED from Fitzz
« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2010, 07:11:41 PM »

Thanks for informing the community of this. It's a crying shame, because many men benefit from the three cylinder approach. I'm sure there will be a workaround though, and let's not forget that toher options are available. My 'boston pump' still works like a charm (though it did take an age to arrive!).
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« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2010, 08:25:03 PM »

Just as i was considering purchasing one  :(

Dr Tim hasnt been around for a while, i am eager to hear his responses or that of others who built their own devices..if they could plz reply to me in some other threads i have posted as i was curious on how beneficial the release button was that came with the Fitz device?  (whilst i understand self-made units dont have this ??  )   Thanx.
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Re: Non avalibility of the Vitality OTC three cylinder VED from Fitzz
« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2010, 01:23:37 AM »

Why is this product still listed on fitzz.com?

Also, as someone who has yet to purchase a VED and planned on buying this one, which is the next best one I would receive the most benefit from? It kind of bums me out this one isn't available anymore and I'm on somewhat of a budget.
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Re: Non avalibility of the Vitality OTC three cylinder VED from Fitzz
« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2010, 08:09:04 AM »

nebula:

OK, you have asked a good question. The basic Vitality one cylinder VED used for eretile dysfunction is still listed on the Fitzz web site. It does have the extra cylinders that could be ordered as a package under the link that was posted on the VED board here. The reason being that the two extra cylinders could no longer be obtained for use as a Peyronies Disease VED.

So, one can still purchase the regular one cylinder Vitality OTC unit from several sources on the web, including Fitzz. So, one can get the one cylinder model and use the protocol posted in the VED board for that VED.

Do a Google search for the Vitality OTC unit and you will find several sources so that you can obtain the better price.

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Re: Non avalibility of the Vitality OTC three cylinder VED from Fitzz
« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2010, 10:07:26 AM »

Augusta Medical Systems, the maker of the Vitality OTC, does have a web site and a "Store" within that web site. Under "Cylinders & Sizing Adapters" they show cylinders of various sizes. What is NOT evident is which cylinders fit the Vitality OTC system. Folks considering a Vitality OTC purchase may want to contact Augusta and inquire about which cylinders work with the Vitality OTC...

It was very nice to be able to go to 1 vendor (Fitzz) and get 1 kit that included everything needed. I am very curious why these kits are no longer available... Perhaps it is a legal and/or pricing issue.
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Re: Non avalibility of the Vitality OTC three cylinder VED from Fitzz
« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2010, 10:15:45 AM »

Augusta Medical Systems, the maker of the Vitality OTC, does have a web site and a "Store" within that web site. Under "Cylinders & Sizing Adapters" they show cylinders of various sizes. What is NOT evident is which cylinders fit the Vitality OTC system. Folks considering a Vitality OTC purchase may want to contact Augusta and inquire about which cylinders work with the Vitality OTC...

I'd be interested in finding this out as well.  I purchased the one cylinder Vitality Plus (by accident, see my other thread) and was thinking about buying the additional cylinders separately.  I have been happy with one cylinder unit but it would be nice to know that I'd have the ability to purchase the other cylinders if need be.
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Re: Non avalibility of the Vitality OTC three cylinder VED from Fitzz
« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2010, 10:29:45 AM »

On first look the prices seemed very high for what these cylinders are - simple acrylic. But as has been mentioned here before, medical stuff is expensive because it is "medical". While the "do it yourself" approach did not appeal to me while the Vitality OTC 3 cylinder system was easily available, I am going to spend some time reading over the posts of folks who have made their own systems.
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Hey guys, if anyone is interested in the Vitality 3 cylinder, the Fitzz Co received a shipment of the cylinders last week, i placed my order on July 22nd and received it today. I don't know how many are available,but i would go online or call as soon as possible. Good Luck, regards Jake
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Hello world:

I was curious to the last post submitted, so i went to the  fitzz web site. They have one remaining system available. I called fitzz and spoke to Mark and confirmed, they indeed have one available.

So if you think this ved may be useful to you and you are going to use it buy it. If not let someone who will use it have a chance!

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Purchasing a VED in the UK
« Reply #38 on: September 12, 2010, 02:28:04 PM »

Hi all,

My Peyronie's experience is different to most, and related to having taken Propecia for male pattern baldness. This awful drug left me with numerous side effects, including Peyronie's, but I'm slowly adjusting an (I think) recovering, and so now I'm trying to do something about the Peyronie's aspect of my symptoms.

Anyway, I wondered if anyone knew if there is any point trying to get the VED on the NHS (I presume this is highly unlikely), and also of any sources where I can buy one. The only place I have found is a website called iMEDicare, but the device is £239 there. Does anyone know if it can be purchased more cheaply elsewhere. I have had a look but to no avail, but I thought others may know of something. If so then I'd be very grateful for any suggestions.

Many thanks
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Re: Purchasing a VED in the UK
« Reply #39 on: September 12, 2010, 04:58:45 PM »

you can get a VED on NHS only for Erectile Dysfunction if you are diagnosed with things like diabetes, had a radical prostectomy etc..
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« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2010, 05:19:03 PM »

ArcadeFire:

Welcome to the forum. Sorry to hear that you had a bout with Propecia and got Peyronies Disease from it. Several guys that I know of have had the same experience.

There are links in the VED board of the main forum home page where VEDs can be purchased. They are the Vitality OTC three cylinder models that have given great results for the forum members. However, both companies are Stateside, but do ship internationally. The prices for them are listed in the web pages of the links posted.

Should you need any help with deciding which cylinders to purchase, just ask and we can steer you in the right direction. As UK says, the NHS will help pay for them if the patient is diagnosed with Erectile Dysfunction rather than Peyronies Disease. The same applies for some models of VEDs in the States. The VEDs mentioned above do not require a prescription for a doctor to be purchased as they are OTC (over the counter) units.

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Re: Purchasing a VED in the UK
« Reply #41 on: September 13, 2010, 09:05:04 AM »

Being in the US, I don't know anything about the NHS in the UK but I am curious as we having many discussions here in the US about universal health care. I would be surprised to learn that your NHS paid for the treatment of male-pattern baldness as well as curvature of the penis.

There are a few comments here on the forum from members who successfully got their insurance (US companies) to pay for the VED but it usually took a long time and with much frustration.

I am quite happy that I purchased my VED and, within a few days, was getting started with therapy. The peace of mind that I gained from actually doing something therapeutic was well worth the $$$ I spent on the VED.

Please post your experience with the NHS as I think many of our forum members are from the UK and would be interested.

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Tried to buy VED - Augusta wouldnt sell cylinders
« Reply #42 on: September 21, 2010, 06:08:13 PM »

Hi all, im a new member here. Just some info. I used the link on WHERE TO BUY THE VITALITY VED AND CYLINDERS..., i bought the VED from the wisdomking.com website, then tried to buy the cylinders A and B from the AugustaMS.com  website links. Augusta called today and will not sell me the cyclinders because I dont appear in their system anywhere and I do not have a prescription for the VED. They said if I owned the system already and had registered it with them they would then sell me the cyclinders. So now waiting to see if I get that registration card with the wisdomKing.com purchase. The whole thing seems kinda hokey to me but that was my experience. Is there somewhere else I can buy the other 2 cylinders?
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« Reply #43 on: September 21, 2010, 07:32:51 PM »

Don't fret brother it will all work out for you.I do not think Augusta is in the wind of this. I believe we do most of our purchasing with fitzz.This is whare we use to purchase the whole system. It seems many do not want to do their home Work these days. But I believe we have a sticky post on the ved board for the purchase of the a and b cylinders.I could be wrong but I do think they are available.

If you have problems finding away to purchase them pm old man he can put you in the right direction.
Just looked at the sticky,  did you use our link? I'm sure that would be your identification for being a forum member.

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« Reply #44 on: September 21, 2010, 08:28:39 PM »

dale1122:

By all means register your purchase of the Vitality OTC one cylinder with Augusta when you get it in hand. As fubar states, look up the direct links to the A and B cylinders listed in the sticky post on the VED board of the home page section of the main forum on where to buy VEDs.

You will find a link for each cylinder ( A and B ) to complete your three cylinder VED. The reason you could not place the order with Augusta without an RX is that FDA had them remove their VEDs and accessories for Peyronies Disease patients, only for Erectile Dysfunction patients. The details of this is posted somewhere in the VED board posts. If the sales rep at Augusta asks you for a reason for needing the cylinders, tell him it is to complete your VED package for Erectile Dysfunction, etc.

Do some research throughout the entire forum on VED usage, the whys and wherefores of its use and how to successfully make the VED work for you.

Ask any and all questions that might arise for you when you get the VED package from your order source.

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Re: Tried to buy VED - Augusta wouldnt sell cylinders
« Reply #45 on: September 21, 2010, 11:12:56 PM »

OK, thanks for the replies, I will register the device when i get it and then try to purchase the other 2 cylinders again. I did use the link last time but Im sure they will sell them once I have the device registered.
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Does this vitality pump have 3 chambers? or just one?
« Reply #46 on: September 22, 2010, 03:00:38 AM »

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310246514785&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Its a vitality pump being sold on ebay. I asked the vendor but he said he dosen't know.

Do you think it has 2 or 3 cylinders that come with it? Or just the one 2.25 standard cylinder, which is huge!

If I need to buy some smaller ones, like A or B or whatever, where can i get them from?

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Re: Does this vitality pump have 3 chambers? or just one?
« Reply #47 on: September 22, 2010, 10:24:06 AM »

crashbandit:

No, the EBay Vitality VED does not have the two extra cylinders as it only the one cylinder manual model. The price is reasonable, but you will need to purchase the A, small and the B, medium cylinders to make up the three cylinder Vitality manual model VED.

You need to open the home page of the main forum and select the thread "Where to buy Vitality VEDs, etc." which lists sources for the VED as well as links to the Augusta Medical Systems for the two extra cylinders. As far as I know, the extra cylinders are only available from Augusta Medical.

One member reports that Augusta would not sell him the two cylinders. You have to have your Vitality VED registered with Augusta to allow them to sell the extra cylinders. The buyer must state that they will be used for erectile dysfunction AND NOT FOR Peyronies Disease OR ELSE YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BUY THEM!!!

If you need any help with obtaining a VED let me know and I can possibly help, etc.

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Re: Purchasing a VED in the UK
« Reply #48 on: September 29, 2010, 05:27:27 AM »

I don't know about the NHS but I got my VED from iMedicare UK delivered to Italy. It arrived within 2 days - great service and it's exactly the same as other members have got in the US. Even though £239 is a lot of money I believe it's comparable with US prices.

I've been using it for about 6 weeks now and will make a post about progress when I get a few more weeks experience with it.
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Re: Tried to buy VED - Augusta wouldnt sell cylinders
« Reply #49 on: September 29, 2010, 07:54:16 AM »

OK, thanks for the replies, I will register the device when i get it and then try to purchase the other 2 cylinders again. I did use the link last time but Im sure they will sell them once I have the device registered.

dale,  please keep us updated on this as if Augusta are unwilling to supply the other cylinders separately then that is a bit of a problem for us who want to purchase the one clinder VED and then go down that route.....
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