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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #50 on: June 18, 2018, 06:03:41 PM »

The final length of the erected penis depend on the erection quality also.

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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #51 on: June 18, 2018, 06:28:12 PM »

I don't doubt what Swiss is claiming one bit. One could argue that he isn't measuring the proper way a urologist would with their tools. But, his measuring is consistent with his own methods and readings. You can't argue that. Plain and simple.

I do believe people with a micro penis use methods of traction or VED to gain more than what they were born with. Regardless, there's a lot of factors that we don't understand. Every case is different. But, curvature, deformities and a proper functioning penis are the main objectives with peyronies. Way to go Swiss!


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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #52 on: June 18, 2018, 07:05:52 PM »

WhatsNext - You re-gained back all of your lost length due to peyronies  ( about 2") due to traction, right?        (I know you had Xiaflex,but it's not supposed to help lost length.) 
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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #53 on: June 18, 2018, 08:18:22 PM »

Ive regained 2" of lost length. That measurement of improvement is from my initial consultation  and my final evaluation measurement. Mid-treatment evaluation was 1.6". No, I haven't gained all length back.
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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #54 on: June 19, 2018, 12:04:15 AM »

How much original length has not returned?  Are you still stretching?
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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #55 on: June 19, 2018, 12:22:46 AM »

Roughly 1"
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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #56 on: June 19, 2018, 09:58:32 AM »

Werther, there is no doubt Penis extension devices work. They have been around a long time and have only recently been found helpful for Peyronies, the AndoPeyronie was once the AndroPenis.  Its original use was male enhancement.  There is a medical condition called Micropenis and one of the treatments for that is using an extender to add permanent length. 

From Time Magazine:

Two urological researchers, Marco Ordera and Paolo Gontero of the University of Turin in Italy, examined outcomes from both surgical and nonsurgical procedures for “male enhancement” in previous studies. Half of the studies involved surgical procedures performed on 121 men; the other half involved nonsurgical enhancement techniques used by 109 men.

The surgical treatments, the researchers found, were dangerous and had “unacceptably high rate of complications.” But among the nonsurgical methods, at least one appeared to help grow a man’s member: the “traction method,” in which a penile extender stretched the phallus daily, resulted in average growth of 0.7 in., or 1.8 cm, of the flaccid penis in one study. In another study of the same method, men reported an average increase of 0.9 in. (2.3 cm) in length while flaccid and 0.67 in. (1.7 cm) while erect."

There is a lot of information about this online.  If you put enough continual force on the area, over a long period of time the body will adjust for it and grow new tissue.  It can be done to bones too. 

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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #57 on: June 19, 2018, 02:50:12 PM »

Can someone please tell me where I can obtain a copy of Dr. Levine's traction protocol?   Also, does Dr Levine recommend Restorex?  If not what traction device(s) does he recommend?  Thanks!
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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #58 on: June 19, 2018, 03:11:29 PM »

Tony52 What is your peyronie's situation? Have you had any treatments?
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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #59 on: June 19, 2018, 03:41:17 PM »

(WhatsNext) Stable peyronies for several years. Was part of the clinical trials for Xiaflex with Dr. Gelbard, but didn't have improvement.  After Xiaflex was approved, I went through 4 more injections of Xiaflex with Dr. Gelbard.  After the third injection of the four (the second time around), I obtained much improvement in the curve.  (I started with a 40 degree curve and I think it went down to about 20 degrees or a little less  I also did traction during the second go-round of Xiaflex, off and on.  I used a cheaper traction device which was difficult to use and then I used Phallosen Forte.  Phallosen Forte was much easier to use, but, in my case, seemed to stretch my penile skin instead of the shaft.  Kinda like I wasn't circumcised - but I am.  I'm now concerned about a lot of lost length and want to give traction a serious try.  That is why I asked where to find Dr. Levine's traction protocol and what he recommends for a traction devise(s). I know you highly recommend Restorex and was wondering if Dr. Levine had an opinion about it.  Thanks!
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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #60 on: June 23, 2018, 06:02:15 PM »

Dr. Levine is my doctor. He doesn't have a prescribed protocol. Just that the longer you can wear a traction device he feels you get more benefit from it. The spring loaded rod type traction devices you need to take a break every 2 hours.

The last time I spoke to him he was recommending the Phallosan Forte type device because it is a little easier to use and you can wear it longer.
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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #61 on: June 24, 2018, 12:35:45 AM »

  Phallosen Forte was much easier to use, but, in my case, seemed to stretch my penile skin instead of the shaft.  Kinda like I wasn't circumcised - but I am.  I'm now concerned about a lot of lost length and want to give traction a serious try.

Check out the video on RestoreX recently posted in this section. He addresses that issue and shows how to avoid it. If the device doesn't work out, you can return it within 30 days for a full refund. I believe the return shipping is free as well.
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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #62 on: June 24, 2018, 12:39:07 AM »

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RestoreX is spring loaded and requires a break after 30 minutes of use.
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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #63 on: June 24, 2018, 01:34:56 PM »

Thanks for your replies, LWillisjr and WhatNext.
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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #64 on: June 24, 2018, 01:38:50 PM »

Wonder why Dr. Levine doesn't seem to be recommending RestoreX??
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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #65 on: June 24, 2018, 07:46:26 PM »

A few medical studies (small number of men without control groups) showed .5 - 2 inches in length gain for small penises.  https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/sexual-health/in-depth/penis/art-20045363
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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #66 on: June 25, 2018, 02:39:33 AM »

any one know what the average girth of a penis is?

seems that between 5 to 7 inch long is average.

is the average girth the same 5 to 7 inch circumference?
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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #67 on: June 25, 2018, 12:30:16 PM »

Is Dr Levine not recommending restorex even though he was on the original medical study?
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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #68 on: June 25, 2018, 02:08:26 PM »

What was his involvement with the orginal study?
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« Reply #69 on: June 26, 2018, 05:15:48 PM »

Tony52 your inbox is full.
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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #70 on: June 26, 2018, 08:17:45 PM »

Has Anyone here seen improvement with hand traction as well? What about Reliving dents in the penis with traction?
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« Reply #71 on: June 26, 2018, 10:52:40 PM »

My indentation, near the base, subsided with traction.
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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #72 on: June 26, 2018, 11:06:55 PM »

Is Dr Levine not recommending restorex even though he was on the original medical study?

To be clear, he is not involved or associated with this device.
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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #73 on: June 27, 2018, 08:40:55 AM »

My apologies, I do not think he was involved in the original study—it was the H-100 study.
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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #74 on: June 27, 2018, 08:56:13 AM »

Hi Swiss, yes i found great improvement with reducing my bend use hand traction/ stretching, none or very little gain in length, but did get back to pre Peyronies Disease length, which was a 1.5 inch loss, found VED gained a lot on girth.
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« Reply #75 on: June 27, 2018, 10:14:52 AM »

OMG Whatsnext, your post just gave me a HUGE hope, as it's the first one of this kind I see on the forum: so you can testify that traction can reduce and cure dents/hourglass???

I'm starting to get very nervous and desperate about my shrinking/narrowing/shortening, as my Peyronies Disease is not stabilized yet... Can you please tell us the exact protocol you used ??
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« Reply #76 on: June 27, 2018, 03:23:17 PM »

I had severe hourglassing, 30 degree curvature and an indentation at the base.

-Xiaflex
-RestoreX for 60 mins a day.
Done in 2, separate 30 min sessions. First 15 mins straight, the last 15 mins, bending opposite of the curve.
-Hand modeling. 5 times a day. A total of 5 mins a day.
Each time 30 seconds straight, 30 seconds opposite or curve.
-20mg Generic viagra at bedtime.

Xiaflex doesn't help with deformaties such as hourglassing and indentations, nor loss of length. Traction studies are showing it's beneficial for all of the stuff injections didn't help.

Gabriel-Many urologists are now saying that traction, if tolerable is beneficial in the acute phase.

Tsanchez-No worries. Just wanted to clarify as there has been some confusion with the H-100 cream and affiliates. It's probably not a bad thing that we have a few promising treatment options to the point where we are getting details mixed up. Ha!
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« Reply #77 on: June 27, 2018, 04:08:46 PM »

Thank you so much for your very precious advice Whatnext!!! These are exactly my symptoms, except that the curvature is half-up/half-left, and my hourglass concerns the top half of my penis.

So I guess the fact you said "had" means that you are now cured or so??

Well, I'm surely coming back to traction as soon as my abstinence obligation from PRP injection ends; still wondering how much force I should apply in my (very) inflammatory phase though  >:(...
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Re: INCREASED length by 3/4 an inch + REDUCED curve by 6 degrees
« Reply #78 on: June 28, 2020, 06:04:39 AM »

Swiss: this is not about just doubting somebody. It's about all the dubious  accounts of improvement, and the miraculous cures that people claim here, that have no tangible proof, that get to me. Again, not calling you a liar, but man... saying you got this amazing length gain and you haven't tracked your progress in any way? I am not talking curvature here.

And also... this mentality from "Monty", in my opinion, really hinders the board, in the sense that you can't call out nobody to prove their claims for fear they will get upset and not post. It's simply not the case.

I really think it would be amazing, if some members of the board got together and kind of tracked down things, and devised methods to track progress and post it online so people know what works and what doesn't so they can try it out for themselves.

As an example... when i go for the implant, i plan to share everything online to help out others. Same if i go for restorex. Pictures in flaccid state, and erect (well, as best as i can, since i can't sustain my erection for much long due to the fracture i had), and measurements from doctors office and home.


You are completely insane. You act as if he double dhis size, it's not that impressive of a length gain, average for RestoreX if that
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« Reply #79 on: June 29, 2020, 09:06:10 PM »

@peter123 - a 2cm gain IS a very impressive gain for a Peyronie's victim and is also a 20% increase on the average for Restorex in their first study.

I agree otherwise. We cannot expect people to be comfortable posting their penis online.
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I just measured the degree. I have a reduced my degree bend by 6 degrees.

31 degrees to 26 degrees.

Traction F^@$!ng works. Stick with it.

Am puzzled why you stopped your old regime. When it's brought you great success?
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« Reply #81 on: July 27, 2020, 07:01:49 AM »

@peter123 - a 2cm gain IS a very impressive gain for a Peyronie's victim and is also a 20% increase on the average for Restorex in their first study.

I agree otherwise. We cannot expect people to be comfortable posting their penis online.

I read a study on andropeyronie and they managed 50% improvement in curvature over 12 weeks with 6 hours a day. I think longer with less tension is better than 1 hour of RestoreX and more trnsion
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