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Title: Fascial Distortion Model for Peyronies Disease
Post by: Christopher1 on January 12, 2019, 05:00:26 PM
Fascia is what keeps everything in our body in place. Some physicians consider the fascial system a new organ system.

The penis has fascia, too. Dartos fascia. Buck's fascia. The tunica albuginea can also be thought of as an extension of fascia.

Fascial distortions can block good movement of interstitial fluid. What is interstitial fluid? It is the fluid that surrounds all cells. Think of it as the fluid that bathes your cells and that is supplied by arterial blood. That fluid directly interacts with your penile cells as well, and the waste products from metabolism and pro-inflammatory cytokines (such as TGF-beta) are carried off through the lymphatics.

Undoubtedly, Peyronies Disease is associated with fascial distortions. Wherever there is scar tissue, there is by definition surrounding fascial distortions.

People who are interested in possibly ameliorating this can look into applying the fascial distortion model, an osteopathic technique. The problem is that it can be quite painful when applied.

I will include videos here, and you can extrapolate how this would be applied to the penis. Usually with FDM, a lot of pressure is used.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnx-o9x5z-M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV8b1jH1PRQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txi62lm3tCM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU9ct-FucC4

Horrible video quality, I know. Essentially, you are using a good 5 pounds of pressure with your finger directly deep into the fascial distortion. You then move your finger over the tissue without letting go of the pressure.
Title: Re: Fascial Distortion Model for Peyronies Disease
Post by: NeoV on January 12, 2019, 07:50:45 PM
Interesting,

I have always theorized that the plaque is a growth or distortion of the actual fascia, and not something coming out of the actual penis itself, but I think both surely happen given that fibrosis of the actual penis tissue is a real thing.

However, there have been reported negative reports of pressing into the scars in some studies (?), it's very old news and we would have to find the source again, but the general consensus over the last decade is that one should never massage the scars. Do I believe this? I don't know at all, going to have to find the source, but for now I wouldn't encourage it.
Title: Re: Fascial Distortion Model for Peyronies Disease
Post by: JS1991 on January 13, 2019, 05:02:36 PM
Interesting, but I don't think it could be good to massage the scar tissue if it is active/acute/painful? Chronic phase, I can see the benefits unless it is useless at that point?
Title: Re: Fascial Distortion Model for Peyronies Disease
Post by: TonySa on January 13, 2019, 09:16:30 PM
It seems five pounds of applied pressure across the plaque could cause additional trauma.  However perhaps the more controlled pressure of traction is a similar mechanism?
Title: Re: Fascial Distortion Model for Peyronies Disease
Post by: swiss on January 13, 2019, 11:53:25 PM
Quote from: JS1991 on January 13, 2019, 05:02:36 PM
Interesting, but I don't think it could be good to massage the scar tissue if it is active/acute/painful?

I've massaged my scar and when I do the next two days or so the dent is more pronounced. I assume because it brings in more inflammation.