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Kazaam

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Plaque is gone, curvature remains
« on: April 26, 2018, 04:29:19 PM »

Hi all,

I suffered an injury during sex in 2013 at the age of 27, resulting in a curvature about 35 degrees and loss in length (3cm) and girth.
Fast forward to 2018 and the doctor told me he could not feel any plaque left. He stated it cured in a natural way. Still the curvature, loss in length and girth remains. A sign of healing is great ofcourse (!!!).
The news left me a bit confused, because if the plague is gone, why does the curvature still remain? Wouldn't the bloodflow be restored?

The doctor considered me cured and our sessions are done. The sessions were just check-ups, no treatments or anything.
The only form of treatment I tried during these five years was an andropeyronie extender for a period of 3-4 weeks, I feel like this did more harm than good, so I stopped.

Any suggestions on a new approach? I would be happy to answer any questions ofcourse.
 
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Re: Plaque is gone, curvature remains
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2018, 04:58:57 PM »

did you feel your plaque before? because I do sometimes feel it and sometimes I do not...
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Re: Plaque is gone, curvature remains
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2018, 06:06:05 PM »

never had a doppler? go find a Peyronie's expert that will do a doppler
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Re: Plaque is gone, curvature remains
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2018, 09:44:31 PM »

Doc is incompetent, def find a peyronies specialist ASAP.
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Re: Plaque is gone, curvature remains
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2018, 02:44:38 AM »

@ Alexander88: Yes I did feel it before, it were 2 hard spots the size of a pea. I have not felt this in a long time.
@Tsxanches12369: The doc is/was considered to be one of the best in The Netherlands, he also was in some Europeaen Xiaflex trials, and one of the few to be allowed to apply the Xiaflex treatment, which I now can't receive because apparently there is no plaque left to inject.
@ Per Ron: No I did not. I will look into it, that means a 2nd oppinion I guess.

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Re: Plaque is gone, curvature remains
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2018, 09:21:00 AM »

I can only tell you from my experience that my plaque is sooo small (!) but the curve is like 30 degree and I could not always feel it and the doctor could only find it when I got a medical induced erection for the ultrasound... than it was visible clearly!! otherwise it wasn't even visible on ultrasound, so I would only take that kind of procedure to measure success!

But if you feel better, which is more important than everything else, than this is a success :-) even if in my logic plaque and curve have to be connected!
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Re: Plaque is gone, curvature remains
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2018, 10:50:26 PM »

What’s the explanation for the curve if there is no plaque?  The doc should be able to explain that.  Very confusing.
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Re: Plaque is gone, curvature remains
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2018, 11:42:23 AM »

I can say I obviously agree on the situation being confusing. That's why I turned to the forum, hoping someone could make some sense out of it. A forum member messaged me about trying VED therapy. I ordered the Soma Correct yesterday and will see how it goes from here on out.
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Re: Plaque is gone, curvature remains
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2018, 12:36:30 PM »

Hi Kazaam,

I can relate to the disconnection you describe between plaque size / deformation degree. As far as I'm concerned, my plaque has not seemed to grow anymore over the past 5 weeks, but my hourglassing and curvature have worsen for sure over the same time. This paradoxical phenomenon appears to be very common, as I think it has been described by lots of members.

However, it is also absolutely certain that VED and traction, thoroughly applied for at least 6 months, have helped many members to gain back both length and girth. So I do recommend you to begin VED following the official protocol (PROTOCOL THERAPY FOR 3 CYLINDER MEDICAL VED’S, 26 WEEK - Peyronies Society Forums), and also to begin traction (which IMHO I do advocate according to my 6 months experience and the many studies that show significant results).
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Re: Plaque is gone, curvature remains
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2018, 02:18:53 PM »

@kazam: regardless of what the doctor says, do you feel like you may still have plaque?

have you had ultrasound done? but even then, the resolution of the ultrasound may not be good enough...
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Re: Plaque is gone, curvature remains
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2018, 03:28:33 PM »

@pey ron: The feeling of a hard lump on the side that I used to have is not there anymore. By touching the side I can feel that the tissue is a bit distorted I guess. Not sure how to describe it, the hard lump is gone but the side does not feel 'fluent'. Also the tip of the penis is a lot softer than before the peyronie started, so my guess is that the blood flow did not restore.     
I have not gotten an ultrasound yet. As recommended here on the forum I started VED therapy.
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Re: Plaque is gone, curvature remains
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2018, 11:38:28 PM »



Gabriel can you private message me where to get these ... thank you!
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Re: Plaque is gone, curvature remains
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2018, 02:20:00 AM »

when i asked dr. Levine if I could get verapamil injections he said: «where? there's no plaque»

that seemed very weird to me. He had just seen scarring on the doppler machine... maybe by plaque they mean something more?
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Re: Plaque is gone, curvature remains
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2018, 12:56:58 PM »

@Codeman : Maybe it's better to tell it publicly, so others can give you their advice about the material; because for the VED it's quite simple (it's the VED SomaCorrect, available on Amazon or Imedicare website if you're in Europe), but for the traction device I'm not sure I should recommend you my Andropeyronies (available on Andromedical website), which may have proven effective, but is really, really messy to use... So, any other advices on traction ?
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Re: Plaque is gone, curvature remains
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2018, 03:59:32 PM »

ESL40,  PMP and restorex.
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Re: Plaque is gone, curvature remains
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2018, 07:10:10 PM »

The explanation is likely that the fibrotic process destroyed the elastic fibers in that area..over time the hard tissue is in part reassorbed but the zone where the fibrosys was  remained anelastic.
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