Morgenstern’s CurveFree® treatment?

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jameschen730101

I just searched "peyronie's new cure" in google, and saw this CurveFree® treatment:
https://morgansternhealth.com/peyronies-disease/

On the page, it says they have 99.6% success rate. (I know! This really seems too good to be true!)
Anyone heard of this treatment/doctor/health center?
I couldn't find any information in the forum.

TonySa

Sounds like a scam, why does insurance cover only 35%
PxD 2 yrs 9/16.  Failed all treatment. 9/11/18: excision, grafting & implant Dr Karpman MtnView Ca, AMS CX 18cm + 3-1cm RTEs.
Pump failed.  2/11/20 Dr Karpman installed Titan 22cm +1cm RTE.

MJohn

Ya definitely sounds too good to be true and has all the telltale signs of a scam.  They claim: "Based upon recent results from over 200 patients at our facility in Atlanta – we're witnessing a 100% success rate eliminating fibrous and calcified plaque associated with Peyronie's amongst compliant patients. All compliant patients saw significant or complete reduction in the unsightly curve associated with this disease."  -but yet don't have that data to back it up?  they say "Morganstern just started a retrospective study of its case results using the CurveFree™ treatment process and is now preparing to initiate a prospective analysis of success for further clarification. Dr. Morganstern plans to publish an analysis of these findings as they become available."  Huh?  Shouldn't you have all that already with the 200 people they have treated?  AND click on "OUR SPECIALISTS" and there is Dr Morganstern and  Scott Baker who is a chiropractor.  If this was legit, they'd have the before and after pics, the studies, and would offer more detail on the actual treatment other than a fancy patented name "curve free".  This reminds me a lot of "Gainswave" which is also a patented term.  The other guy they mention that helped design this was a medical instrument designer.  $10,000 for a fancier penile traction device is my guess as they mention compliance and time as the most crucial factors.  The website look itself reminds me of an infomercial.  Another scam I'm afraid fellas.  I mean come on now, They say they have treated 500 guys and not one of them posted on here? How did we each find this website in the first place?  We Googled "Peyronie's" and found this forum.  NO WAY IN HELL, not one of those 500 success stories wouldn't have posted on this site.  Scam.  

TonySa

Sad, but the hucksters are in the healthcare field too!
PxD 2 yrs 9/16.  Failed all treatment. 9/11/18: excision, grafting & implant Dr Karpman MtnView Ca, AMS CX 18cm + 3-1cm RTEs.
Pump failed.  2/11/20 Dr Karpman installed Titan 22cm +1cm RTE.

pey ron

The stem cell treatment "study" also asked me $10000 in order to participate. Another scam, right?
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james1947

If someone want to read the posts, a search for Morganstern on the forum main page gives 29 posts.
And yes, 99.6% success rate smells bad

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

TonySa

There's no costs for legit research studies.
PxD 2 yrs 9/16.  Failed all treatment. 9/11/18: excision, grafting & implant Dr Karpman MtnView Ca, AMS CX 18cm + 3-1cm RTEs.
Pump failed.  2/11/20 Dr Karpman installed Titan 22cm +1cm RTE.

Paul52

From the website of dr. Morganstern:

Where's the proof of CurveFree® Technology healing Peyronie's Disease?
Morganstern just started a retrospective study of its case results using the CurveFree™ treatment process and is now preparing to initiate a prospective analysis of success for further clarification. Dr. Morganstern plans to publish an analysis of these findings as they become available.
Our present results are proving nothing short of game-changing – we haven't had a single patient who was compliant in his treatment that hadn't experienced an improvement in reduction of both plaque and curvature: not one!

https://morganstern.com/peyronies-disease/curvature-penis-treatments/

Ok, could be (and I very much hope so), but where are the testimonials, dear doctor? Where are the before and after pics? And why is there only one (so far) post from a satisfied customer, which is quite outdated BTW? 500 happy men must shout it out loud though?


QuackAttack

I sent the info to my URO who is the Chief of Urology at the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center. It will be interesting to see what his thoughts on it are. He is really conservative in his approach and based on what I have heard URO's doing with Xiaflex (inducing an erection then injecting a cycle of Xiaflex) I can tell you that he thought that was one of the worst things a URO could do because the possibility of fracture. So, if this is legit, he'll have an opinion. I won't see him again until March, so I may not know until then.

oldones

I'm seeing Morganstern and I can say for a FACT his treatments are working !!!

I go in for my 4th treatment on Wednesday  

TonySa

The urologist is against xiaflex for all cases?  Only does surgery then?
PxD 2 yrs 9/16.  Failed all treatment. 9/11/18: excision, grafting & implant Dr Karpman MtnView Ca, AMS CX 18cm + 3-1cm RTEs.
Pump failed.  2/11/20 Dr Karpman installed Titan 22cm +1cm RTE.

PeetyPeet

So what exactly is the treatment? At a glance it's not clear on the website.  

oldones

ENDOSTIM which uses Carboxyl therapy and Verapamil injections combined with LOW INTENSITY
SHOCKWAVE THERAPY: that and a combination of Pentix, hormone treatments, low dose Cialis and traction:  GREAT RESULTS!!!

james1947

oldones

You have written:
QuoteGREAT RESULTS!!!
Can you detail the GREAT RESULTS please?
It will help other forum members to decide if they want to go in this way :)

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

QuackAttack

Oldones,

Are Cialis and hormone treatments necessary if you have good erectile quality and are not low on testosterone? Also, what was you starting degree of curvature and where are you at right now? At what point will Dr. M start getting this modality out to other UROs?