Peyronies for 17 months now, details below

[Amador]

Greetings,

I am a 57 year old white male, fairly healthy, my stats, history and symptoms:

    6'3", 235 pounts . . . about 15 pounds over weight ( I have a large frame)
    My blood pressure and blood vitals, cholesteral, triglycerides, A1C) are all healthy
    I am Type II diabetic and control it via diet and exercise

I first notice my peyronies about 17 months ago and it was very mild, I did not know what to think.  I ride my bicycle alot and wondered if I had possibly injured myself and hoped my body would heal itself . . . as it almost always does.  About 5-8 months later I started to notice the hourglass shape and started to research.  I then realized I had Peyronies . . . most articles said it may go away on itself  . . . 12-18 months.  One more note, there was also a time, that during sex with my wife, I did fully exit her with her coming down hard on my erection, that too could have caused injury.
In hind sight, I wish I would have ignored the 12-18 month wait and see articles and had been more proactive.  I am of mind to think the earlier you diagnose and correct . . . the better.

So, I would like to avoid XIAFLEX, the needle injections and the possible side effects.  I am not sure I would even qualify as I only have about a 10 degree angle.  I have never exerienced pain.  It seems as though the hourglass may be reducing but I worry that it is just wishful thinking on my part.  However, I used to experience side to side bending ( as though flacid) at the hour glass locations . . . but now my erections are firmer there and the side to side is reduced noticably.

Are there any natural cures that work.

I am thinking of HEAT TREATMENT in conjuction with manual stretching and dietary supplements.  Comments suggestions.

Also, I have read alot about Castor Oil as a topical treatment.  Comments.

I also researched an article by a company out of Arizona (can't think of the name but will update later) that was very knowledgable about causes and symptoms.  They offered a dietary supplement, about $240/month that would typically take about 90 days . . . so you would be into it about $720 before you saw results or realized you were paying jacked up prices for colored vitamens.  Does anyone have any experience or knowledge about this company.

Thanks in advance for your guidance and information.  I will update on my experiences in my effort to further our knowledge and finding cures that work.

[jeffk]

Welcome,
As a 52 year old healthy white guy who has been dealing with peyronies for 23 months, I would be careful on how you spend money on 'natural cures'.  I've talked to my GP and urologist and the medical papers do not suggest success with home remedies.

My story is similar your story, but rather than hourglass shape, I'm close to a 90 degree bend, 1/3 of the way down the shaft.  I've always had a curve in my erection, but after my 49th birthday it increased.  My problem became obvious during a sex mishap after a long business trip.  I was tired and my wife took the lead in bed, she was on top and at one point my penis was barely in, but did not go back in, and as she came down hard, my erection bent (bad).  I was sure we broke my penis.

My urologist gave me an ultrasound a month later and confirmed my peyronies and after a year he advised major treatments including surgery.  My fear of making things worse has me in a holding pattern.  Lucky for me, things have not got worse, but they have not got much better either.  

Please post how heat, Caster Oil, traction and supplements work out for you?  Peyronies can really mess with your head, take of care of yourself.  

[Amador]

I am starting an experimental therapy based on research and personal thoughts . . . while still researching and seeking  therapies to narrow my approach.

Some thoughts . . . bad cholesterol causes plaque build up in our arteries . . . so while researching I will be pursueing a life stile to reduce potential bad cholesteal.  This will include the following:  increased cardiovascular exercise/this reduces bad cholesteral and increases the bodies ability to produce good cholesteral.  Low cholesterol diet, low tryglyceride diet.  Will consume 1 teaspoon of Apple Cider Vinager in the morning and before bedtime . . . this will also help with my Type II Diabetis, studies have shown a decrease in blood sugar.

Stretching and VED with heat using hand warmers.

I will still be researching and looking for remedies to be used in combination.  I will be looking for enzyme supplements which bind and dissolve the plaque scare tissue . . . is this real . . . or is it snake oi.  If it is a real benefit, I am looking for the most effective and proven products.

I will post on  weekly basis . .. not sure if I can post pictures but will try.  Pictures will be both flacid and fully erect . . . both are needed to evaluate any gains or regress.  I do not know how to post pictures so any guidance is welcome.

I also want to measure and track my history to properly show any results.  I am looking for suggestions on where and how to measure.

Finally, any suggestions on type and brand of VED's that are best for Peyronie therapy . . . please advise.

I welcome any and all input . . . I want to kick this and hopefully provide valuable information in our fight to cure this.  I am ready to humble myself with my pictures and tracking . . . let's hope it pays off.  

Tonight I start but only have the ability to take the Apple Cider, heat and stretching exercises.  I will post pictures as soon as Iearn how.  I will update as Iearn more and identify enzymes and vitamins that may help.  I will update when I receive my VED . . . hope to make purchase in next 24 hours and receive via mail in next 2-5 days.

[Christopher1]

I have been using the handwarmers, too.

It really works well.

[Amador]

Hi Christopher,

Last night and this morning were my first 2 times of using the hand warmers . . . laying there next to my wife  . . . thank god she is so relaxed . . . we just watched TV and talked.  It has only been 2 times but both times the hand warmers gave me an erection . . . I think possibly the warmth opens my arteries and then the stretching, massaging the plaque areas and the pressure (which most likely closes the veins which allow the blood flow to escape) closed the veins.  Plus . . . the hand warmers feel a little like sex, ( not a bad side effect) because of the warmth, heat and then the pressure applied . . . do not let me mislead anyone . . . this was not  sexual experience . . . but I was going to relax as I fell asleep anyway . . . and then had a lazy morning.  . . so so far the treatment is easy.

I am probably going to use a larger and renewable heat source . . . just so I can cover a larger area and also reduce cost.  I already have a product called Green Heat (reusable heat packs) and they come with Blue Freeze (reusable cold packs) which I purchased at Costco.  My only concern is that it may produce a little too much heat . . . so I will have to monitor . . . possible apply for 30-60 seconds and then take a 30-60 break and repeat over a 20 minute session.  I am thinking may not be a bad thing as I will try to GENTLY massage the plaque areas in between the heat applications . . . will also apply gentle straightening as I have a slight downward angle.

Will update tomorrow.

I am still hoping to get live feedback from anyone using supplements which really worked and help to break down and dissove the plaque scar tissue.

[Christopher1]

Yes - the hand warmers make erections much easier. I have noticed that, too.

I would combine it with oral pentox/cialis. I also add Ginkgo biloba because it is a blood thinner. Works well for me.