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New treatment coming soon? Bottox?
« on: June 12, 2017, 12:36:25 AM »

Having some trouble getting it up? Oral meds like Viagra and Cialis are usually the first-line treatment for erectile dysfunction, and in many cases, they’re pretty damn effective—only 9 percent of older guys said they still had erectile dysfunction after taking the drugs, a 2015 study from the U.K. found.

But they’re not magic pills: Some men can’t take them at all, like those who are on heart meds called nitrates, since the Erectile Dysfunction drugs can cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. Other guys have tried the oral Erectile Dysfunction drugs, but they haven’t worked for them. (Here are the top 6 mistakes you make with your Erectile Dysfunction drugs.)


And even if they do work, you need to take the pill to get your erection going. That means spontaneous sex can be difficult—and all those refills can get pricey.

Still, the “holy grail” of erectile dysfunction treatment—a permanent or near-permanent therapy that restores your boners—remains elusive, researchers write in a commentary in the Journal of Sexual Medicine.

But there is one possibility that may come close: Botox. Yes, the same cosmetic procedure that smoothes out wrinkles on your face might provide a boost to your penis, too, the researchers believe. (But here are 10 bogus facts about erectile dysfunction that are just plain wrong.)

Botox—which is actually a bacterial toxin called botulinum—erases wrinkles by blocking the nerve impulses that causes muscles to contract.

The same mechanism may help give you an erection. Botox can thwart the release of the neurotransmitter norepinephrine, which prevents blood flow. But it doesn’t mess with the release of nitric oxide. Nitric oxide is vital to erections, since it relaxes your smooth muscle and allows blood to rush in to your penis.

Because of this, the researchers believe Botox can provide an erectile boost for several months—the duration of each injection. And it may work for guys with both physiological Erectile Dysfunction, which is caused by blood flow issues, and those with psychogenic Erectile Dysfunction, which is triggered by physiological factors. (If you have this blood type, you may have stronger erections anyway.)

It may also help men whose Erectile Dysfunction hasn’t been helped by oral drugs or injectable therapy respond to less invasive therapies—or perhaps require no additional treatment at all, they say.

So what’s the evidence for this? Unfortunately, scientific experiment on Botox for erectile dysfunction have been limited. One human study of 12 men with Erectile Dysfunction nonresponsive to other treatments did show improved blood flow and reported better sexual functioning after two weeks, though.

While the treatment does seem promising, it’s not ready for show time quite yet: Its safety and effectiveness needs to be verified in larger clinical trials before it can be recommended, the International Society for Sexual Medicine warns. It also has the potential to result in a prolonged erection—which can permanently damage the penis—so you don’t want to seek out the treatment outside a clinical trial before it’s vetted.


​How Botox Can Treat Erectile Dysfunction | Men’s Health
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Re: New treatment coming soon? Bottox?
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2017, 01:17:18 AM »

Thank you for the post and the link Lessor.
I will wait to see the results of the trials before I will try it, even it is available where I am living :)

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Re: New treatment coming soon? Bottox?
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2017, 06:22:14 AM »

what do you mean james with it is available where you live?
In your country they use bottox for Erectile Dysfunction? Now?
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2017, 10:17:36 AM »

I think james meant to say "even if it was available where I live"
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2017, 10:53:08 AM »

Lol yes he meant that probably
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2017, 02:52:44 PM »

Sorry for my poor English :)
What I mean is that the treatment is available here where I am living :)

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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2017, 04:16:17 PM »

What I mean is that the treatment is available here where I am living :)
Is available bottox for Erectile Dysfunction? Seriously? In romania i guess?
I mean I thought it is a new thing if we are talking about penis
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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2018, 06:01:49 AM »

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This is quite amazing to hear.
I can't believe people did not see it before. Botox is majorly used to relax the muscle and this seems like a temporary but promising solution.
I believe Botox is a game changer here.
Who could have thought that Botox would help us ;D
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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2018, 05:46:11 AM »

Better later than never, I mean the answer.
No, not in Romania. I am Romanian but living is South East Asia :)
And is also cheep :)

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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2018, 01:58:47 PM »

I can't find any clinics online that seem to offer this treatment. Does anybody know of any clinics  in Europe  that offer this? I would like to try it.
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2018, 07:59:32 PM »

is injecting a neurotoxic substance in your penis area a good idea, really?
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Re: New treatment coming soon? Bottox?
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2018, 08:30:47 AM »


NOT A GOOD IDEA (in my opinion, but I am an old, conservative man, so I may be wrong :( )

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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2018, 11:22:55 AM »

Many of you probably knew already, but I just found out that botox is used quite extensively to treat incontinence by injecting it into the bladder. So the notion that it could be injected into the penis to treat Erectile Dysfunction may not be so far-fetched after all. It seems to be hit or miss though from the reviews that I’ve seen. It seems stupid not to at least try it before making the life decision to have an implant.
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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2018, 06:27:31 PM »

A guy, echegollen, in franktalk went to international andrology in Athens, he got the botox about september, he said me it didnt work
So this is another thing which is a scam
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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2018, 06:40:15 PM »

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It seems stupid not to at least try...
Your penis is your penis so you may do as you wish and bear the results.
Myself will not inject toxic substances in any place of my body. But it's me, an old backward man :)

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« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2018, 09:31:04 PM »

I had researched this a while back and it seemed legit.  I’ll try to find the info again.
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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2018, 02:16:30 AM »

james 1947

I’m not thinking about it anymore. I’ve been fooling myself with all kinds of false hope for long enough. I just want to get an implant.
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