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lionel24

Hey, call me Lionel. I'm really happy to be here....Hope to share my experience and learn from yours.

Story:
I ejaculated went to sleep and woke up with a pain in my right testicle. I had nausea, testicle discomfort and red testcile. I went to my regular doctor and after physically examining it he I said I have Epididymitis but the pain I had that day should be the highest and should go away within a few days. If not, it's normal and I should go to the emergency. He didn't give antibiotics but said take tylonel and sit in a bath with luke warm water. He was right! Almost all symptoms are gone and I can walk more comfortably now. Note: Symptoms like minor nasuea and a little penis discomfort do return when I woke up  today after 2 hours of sleep.

My big problem now is after seeing my erection, it is slightly bent at the bottom of my penile shaft. Example: if I lay down with an erection, my penis falls backwards and I can't get it up anymore. It also hangs at an angle to the right side when flacid that makes me pee at an angle but there isn't much pain when I get an errection.

I think I injured myself somehow from ejaculating 4-5 times per day for around 1 week.

I have an urge to masterbate / ejaculate but I am abstaining. I really believe time will help as long as I don't injure myself again.

My question is does this sound like peyronies or can Epididymitis / pelvic floor cause the slight pend in the lower shaft of my penis?


Toronto34

Hi Lionel,

I just responded to your other post re: watching porn without ejaculation. After reading this I suggest a long-ish break from masturbating and watching porn. Maybe try a month off of everything? Ejaculating 4-5 times a day is a lot and whether or not you have Peyronies you have some trauma down there that needs to heal. Let your night time/morning erections provide the blood flow you need.

A slight bend is indicative of Peyronies but you should go see a doctor. How much is your curve (10 degrees? 20 degrees?) and which way (up, down, left, right)? Take some good pictures and measurements so you can monitor any changes to your erection, but definitely go see your doctor (show them the pictures, this is how I was diagnosed). Definitely give your little guy a rest in the meantime.

Good luck!

lionel24

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Hi Toronto34, thanks for your response. I feel encouraged to take time 1 month from masterbating after reading your post but it's hard when I'm alone lol. I want to try 3 weeks abstinence but I worry it's not long enough to clear my system from epididymitus.

My curve is 10-20 degrees to the right, 1-2 inches from at the bottom of my penis shaft. Does this sound like peyronies?

I also realize that some areas on the skin on my penis shaft burns for a second than goes away a few times throughout the day. I'm not sure why this. I don't see any clear signs of broken skin but maybe I damaged the skin by masterbating.

I will do what you said and take a picture of my erection and see the doctor.

My problem is I really want to masterbate but I keep reminding myself that I will probbaly have a pain in my testcile and nausea if I ejaculate.

The only thing I do now is stimualte an erection by watching porn but don't masterbate.


Toronto34

I am just some guy on the Internet so you should not rely on me for a diagnosis, but from my understanding a *new* bend in your erect penis is almost always Peyronies. Again, you should confirm this with a doctor, preferably a urologist. As for your pain, I don't know. That also could be Peyronies but you've also had some trauma down there from epididymis so it may be something relating to that.

If you go to your GP they might dismiss your situation because it's a small curve or tells you it is Peyronies but there's nothing you can do besides waiting it out and maybe getting surgery when it stabilizes. Don't accept either of these answers and get a second opinion because there are treatment options (a lot of treatments documented in this forum that have a lot of guys). There's no quick and easy cure but waiting for your penis to get better on its own is a huge gamble, as this only happens rarely.

Right now you should definitely give yourself a break from masturbation (you sound young, so I know that'll be difficult but TRY) and see a doctor. If you want to start in educating yourself more and look into common supplements, I suggest reading this thread: Peyronies Survival Guide - Information for New Members - Peyronies Society Forums

I also suggest not reading too much. It can get overwhelming to try to take it all in and you need to live your life.

lionel24

Thanks Toronto. I will do that!

I read success stories on your website and I found one thing in common with everyone. They give themselves time to heal (maybe by no mastebration or sex but I doubt it because it's so difficult)! The next thing I notice that may work well is Pentox because it helps blood flow everywhere.

What do you think about it?  Is my thinking correct? ...

Also, why is waiting and doing nothing risky? What can happen if I wait and don't masterbate at all?

Once my epididdymis is gone, how often can someone with peyronies masterbate? Is once per day ok if I don't have pain? I'm just worried it will make peyronies worse. It could be because I did it too many times before and not in a gentle way

Thanks man

Toronto34

How Peyronies progresses is very different for each guy. Some will end up with very minimal symptoms/curves or even a complete reversal. Unfortunately others end up with an extreme curvature and erectile dysfunction. It's hard to predict. Remember that forums like this often attract people who are having difficulties with the disease so it can give you a skewed idea of the severity of Peyronies. Don't freak yourself out too much.  

I agree, I've read more than a few success stories that involved giving themselves time to heal. That's why I suggest taking some time of masturbating and doing it very gently when you do. Once you're feeling a little better you can re-introduce as much as you are comfortable but 4-5 times a day is definitely way too much and once a day is actually considered too much, even for young men. Maybe 2-3 times a week? I don't have a definite number for you. As I said, I am doing it around 1 time a week because that feels right for me though I'd like to do it more. Never ejaculating is not healthy for the prostate/testosterone levels so total abstinence is not good (my doctor says some, non-risky sex is good) unless it's actively causing you pain.

When I say "waiting and doing nothing" I mean it's best to be proactive about treating your Peyronies. If you have it (remember you might not, see a doctor!) you're in the acute phase (generally the first 6-18 months, but sometimes longer) when the condition is still sort of "active" and new symptoms can appear. Once this is over you will be in the chronic phase, where the symptoms stabilize but treatment becomes more difficult and symptoms are harder to reverse. That's why waiting is risky. A lot of doctors think all you can do is wait and get surgery later if you need it, but the top Peyronies urologists usually recommend a range of treatments while you're in the active phase to prevent and reverse progression. Since a lot of treatments are mostly harmless (Pentox) or generally good for your overall health (diet) there's at least no harm. You should research this more because my knowledge here is limited.

Treatment can meet a lot of things: medication, supplements, diet, exercise, heat therapy, VED devices, traction devices and so on (that thread introduces the basics). I can't get in to all of them and don't know the ins and outs. Pentox (aka Trental) is the gold standard but NOT a cure. It's main use is not actually for Peyronies so getting a prescription from a doctor can be a difficult. Some guys bring print outs of Pentox/Peyronies studies to their physician to convince them to get a prescription. Once you have a scrip that it is relatively cheap and pretty well tolerated.

Things I want to reiterate: Go to a doctor, preferably a urologist; try to get a Pentox prescription (See PAV) and do more research on other supplements/treatments; don't rely simply on me as I've only had this for 3 months and am not an expert and remember that Peyronies is highly individual so you'll have to work out what is best for you.

Also, stop smoking if you do. That's one thing everyone agrees on!

lionel24

Thanks, Toronto34. I'll take your advice and see my doctor. ...

BTW - If not peyronies, what else can this be? I'd like to know so I can read about it. Is there any previous cases where someone thought they had peyronies but ended up having something else?

Thanks bro. How are you doing?

Toronto34

You're welcome. I hope it all helps.

From what I read a new curve or bend in the penis is almost always Peyronies. If you don't have Peyronies I don't know what you might have. course there may be exceptions? The whole epididymis thing makes me wonder if it could possibly be something else?  Honestly, I don't know because I've only been looking into Peyronies as that's what I was diagnosed with.

I am pretty good, personally. My symptoms are comparatively mild: slight upward curve of around 20 degrees and only occasional flaccid pain. I had a hard flaccid but that seems to be going down. My penis does other weird things at times: like hourglass shape when its flaccid and cold, bending to the left after ejaculation, but I can handle that stuff. I am 3 months in and hoping I don't get any worse, I would be okay with that outcome. I've already tried a few treatments but had some unpleasant side effects (nothing too serious). I will keep exploring and honestly it's the psychological factor you need to remember. It can play games with your head so don't neglect your mental/emotional health. Talk to people, either a therapist or friends and family you can trust. It's not always easy, but try to have fun, exercise, eat well and don't take life too seriously.

Introductory threads usually get closed after 10 posts but feel free to PM if you have more questions. Other guys on here know more than me though and once you learn who some of the experts are they are usually good at responding and giving advice.

Good luck!

lionel24

Thanks man...Good luck on your recovery!!!