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lionel24

Will it increase my chances to heal if I stimulate erection with porn (no hand pumping) but not ejaculate? Also, is it safe to do this?


Toronto34

Some guys on here have some pretty strong views about the negative effects of porn on our minds/sexual function (on all men, not just those with Peyronies). They would be against this.

I would say regardless of how you get an erection blood flow to the penis and erections are good. That's pretty universally agreed upon. While over-masturbation and ejaculation are not good, as these could be causing additional trauma. Definitely go easy on these and if you're recently diagnosed and maybe take some time off completely to heal and reduce inflammation.

If you can watch porn, get a good erection and have the will power not masturbate then I would think it's helpful because of the blood flow (I do this sometimes but I've only had Peyronies for 3 months so am no expert). I also took an initial month off from masturbating (with occasional porn watching) and now wait at least a week between sessions, sometimes 2.

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Thanks for the encouragement man. I really want to stop for a month but I think 3 weeks might be the best I can do because I don't have much will power, especially when I don't get much sleep. If I could masterbate once every week after 3-4 weeks of abstinaence until my condition is better, I would be okay with that for a while. I haven't masterbated for 6 days already so it is very difficult. Before that, I didn't masterbate for 9 days. Have you noticed a decrease in penis size with peyronies (smaller length and girth)?

Freemason

I just don't get those that think that men masterbating who have Peyronies Disease will make it any worse..normal masterbation in no way will or can cause internal injury and scaring.  Not buying it.

Paolo

Masturbation good as long as you have 'firm' erection, if it goes softer that may cause more trauma IMO  :)
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

Tychy

Well, if you wait a few weeks, you won't need overdrive carnage hand pumping action. A gentle fondling should be enough. Porn often leads to binge watching, instead of enjoying and letting go and brings the whole Kegel and tension stuff on the table. There is no way being gentle itself can lead to injury. At least not more than walking and getting a random erection.

However, if you have "trained" pelvic floor muscles, there will be a huge spike in blood pressure inside the corpus on ejaculation. You may overstretch the tunica or further break blocked vessels (or their alternate paths). I always found it's hurting less afterwards when ejaculating without a full erection, be it only due to glans stimulation or a massager.

I'm currently training on doing reverse kegels when ejaculating, but this is very difficult and takes time. You won't have the five or so shots coming out, but more of a slow steady stream. Feeling-wise this isn't any less enjoyable than the regular tensing, but it needs the right headspace to do so.  

Sir Bando

I feel that sexual response is unique to every individual, and is susceptible to habit. To each his own, I don't judge, but I think there are some guidelines that its good to try to follow.

First and foremost, sex is designed to be about sharing pleasure with another person. The closer you stay to that the better. Obviously the psyche can absorb some self pleasuring. But during that time the milder (more vanilla) the fantasies and the less you have to rely on physical stimulus the better. For example, when I went through a porn/masturbation phase I was unaware that I was hand-on-dick almost full time whether I needed it or not. Shouldn't be surprised when I tried having sex with a woman that I needed almost constant physical stimulus to keep a good erection. So for a long time after that, if I did go back to porn/masturbate I would avoid any touching until it was absolutely necessary at the end to finish. Similarly with the porn images or fantasy, the more extreme or intense they were the more my mind was trained to need that sort of intensity to enjoy sex with another person. Bottom line, in general I feel that the less a person masturbates the better, just as a general health guideline. Train your brain and dick to respond when you're with a loved one, to the greatest extent possible.

Having said that, what if we need to get or maintain erections to encourage healing? Or, in my case I have done exercises for the purpose of penis enhancement, many of which call upon the man to achieve and hold a semi-erection (50% - 75%) and in some moments to get a full erection. And this you do for long stretches, multiple times a day. Making it very hard for me to heed my own advice. In those PE (penis enhancement) circles there are some pretty big and deep discussions about how to fantasize or watch porn to get semi-erect without spiraling into an interior world of increasingly intense fetishist fantasies and addictions and desensitization to regular stimuli, etc.

So I did all I practically could to maximize overall penis health and erection quality and frequency. It took years of studying and experimenting with herbs and supplements (to know what's right for me) as well as kegels and even using timing of the day to work with my best chance of achieving erection with the absolute least amount of sexual fantasy, thought, stimulus, or porn or what have you.

Here's a tidy little summary just to provide some examples.

Like most guys I'm prone to morning wood. So I set my alarm for an hour before I get up. Right at my nightstand are a few supplements that encourage erections: (actually the night before I take yohimbe) and in the morning I take L-Arginine with Pycnogenol; L-Citrulline; ginseng and a few other things. Then I go back to sleep for 30-60 mins. I wake up with a raging hard on. By the time I get to the shower the walking and need to piss causes me to lose my erection. But when I get into the shower the least little fondling, absent ANY sexual thoughts (I actually mentally work hard to push any sexual thoughts out of my mind) and it takes nothing for me to have that 50%-75% semi.

Towards the end of my regimen, especially if it's been long and intense, I may lose a bit of erection quality. So I allow for the mildest sexual thought I can. I mean literally imagining making out with my wife, just kissing, and a pretty strong erection is triggered. Ok, admittedly, on some days I need to have some pretty explicit fantasies to get through the routine. However...

By contrast, if I fall into my old bad habits and I begin to scope out a little porn occasionally, I find that my morning shower routine will require stronger and more explicit fantasies earlier on during my routine. Once I fast from porn my soldier will pop to attention quicker.

Oh yeah and you can't over emphasize the importance of kegels. Hundreds a day, everyday