Aspirin instead of Pentox

[Wladyslaw]

Hello,
None of the 3 urologists I have ever wanted to give me a Pentox prescription. They claim that this is not a cure for Peyronies Disease. I wonder if instead of Pentox do not use Aspirin. Aspirin improves circulation by reducing red blood cell aggregation - just like Pentox. I ask for your suggestions.

Regards

Wladyslaw  

[Paolo]

Wladyslaw, I take 75mg aspirin just as a precautionary measure (I am 55 Years old) and cycle it, Mon-Friday then off it for Sat-Sunday, it is known as baby aspirin.

Don't take it with any other blood thinning supplements or medications, you may want to try it, if so post back on any positives/negatives, perhaps speak to your Doctor firstly.

[james1947]

Wladyslaw

You are wrong regarding Pentox = Aspirin
Aspirin is a blood thinner
Pentox is not. Pentox makes the red blood cells flexible to be able to flow true the smallest veins so they can carry oxygen to the body extreme ends

James

[Christopher1]

I agree.

They have very different mechanisms of action. Not even close to being the same.

[PeetyPeet]

I've always been confused by the term 'blood thinner' when referring to drugs such as Aspirin and Warfarin.

My understanding is that Aspirin and Warfarin are anti-coagulants. They inhibit blood's potential to clot. They do not however reduce the viscosity of blood in the same way that paint thinner reduces the viscosity of paint.

Pentox however, I understand, does reduce blood viscosity in the way described above. It also makes blood cells more malleable so that they can bend round obstacles rather than get stuck/destruct.

Please correct if I'm wrong here, I'd like to understand this.

Peety

[james1947]

You are right PeetyPeet
After a hour search with google I didn't find even ones Aspirin mentioned as blood thinner.
Everywhere is written that is an anti-coagulant.
I was prescribed daily 100 mg for life after having a heart attack in 1995.
In 2007 I was diagnosed with Polycithemia Vera, where all the blood counts are very high and again I was prescribed the same 100 mg aspirin. The Dr Professor that treated me told me that is a blood thinner, but again, I didn't find on the web mentioned as blood thinner

James  

[PeetyPeet]

Thanks for investigating James

I wonder if 'blood thinner' is a colloquialism that has arisen due to doctors wanting to give their patients an easy-to-understand explanation, although it can be misleading.

I believe Pentox is commonly used to treat peripheral artery disease, a condition where the smaller arteries become narrow due to arteriosclerosis / atherosclerosis. Presumably, the reduction in blood viscosity allows it to pass through the narrowed veins more easily. Aspirin is not used for this condition, however.

Sorry to hear you had a heart attack. I hope you're not still suffering too much because of this. I've just read that polycithemia vera can also increase your platelet count, as well as red blood cells, so perhaps aspirin is the best medication. Again, I hope this isn't causing you too much trouble.

Best

Peety

[james1947]

Peety

I suppose you are right regarding "blood thinner" expression
Regarding Pentox, during the time I was taking it, even I was still smoking, my small blue/red veins on my face disappeared, same on my foot so yes, as you said, the red blood cells can carry the oxygen everywhere.
Regarding the hearth attack, thank you for the interest, I am fine. 22 years have passed from it with no any problems The Dr/Professor made me enlargement with a balloon and told me that like with everything doctors can't find the reason, my hearth attack was from stress
With the Polycithemia Vera also stable at red blood cells 18,000, white at 28,000, platelets at 1,100,000. Luckily I have low low blood pressure and low hearth beet.

James

[Paolo]

Yes, stress indeed is very bad, stress = Cortisol, The long-term activation of the stress-response system — and the subsequent overexposure to cortisol and other stress hormones — can disrupt almost all your body's processes  

Do as much as you can Guys to reduce it  

[james1947]

Paolo

Do as much as you can Guys to reduce it

I agree with you 100% but:
Easy to say, difficult to implement
For example a guy that have a wife and kids and don't have enough money to care for them in the last week of the month will not be able to reduce his stress if he is a responsible man  

James