Phallosan forte vs Augusta VED

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popopo

Hi people, I have some money to spare right now and since there doesn't seem to be anything else I can do to maybe reverse so damage done I want your opinion on wheter I should do traction or VED and why?

I think for atraction device I woulduse the phalosan forte and for a VED I'd choose the Augusta (would love to here more about the discount by the way).

Does anybody have some pro's and cons to share with me and tell me what to expect from either one of those? I lost some size but I'm mostly still straight.

I really hope to get more of my old shape back and especially girth wise tho I did lose about half an inch in lenght too, the girth and hourglass like symptoms annoy me most.

What device would be more helpfull in my case? Would love to hear your opinion and experience of either one of the devices and maybe advice for a different brand or whatever. Thanks in advance.
Age: 25
Date of onset: 17
Symptoms: sharp pains, numbness, change in shape/size, hourglassing and discolaration from jelqing/VED usage as a teen. Diagnosed with a venous leak and possible scarring.
Treatments tried: cialis, pentox and VED didnt help

Bcoolaboutit

Hey man I haven't been on this forum in awhile. I'm a year since diagnosed with Peyronies's. My best advice is to gain as much knowledge about your dick as you can from this site and don't return. It does get better...and gets worst. It's all a mind game and wisdom. My advice is go for the AUGUSTA system 3 cylinder manual pump ...the Phallosan Forte sounds great but for the price and efficiency get the VED. Get a pump routine...don't overpump ever. ALWAYS HEAT YOUR DICK UP BEFORE HAND..either through rice sock or hot shower on you dick. Peyronies is a fight over erection quality. You need good erections to fight the buildup of plaque. Stretching your dick in early stages CAN ONLY CAUSE MORE HARM. Wait a year before you touch it basically..only pump it. GOLDEN RULE. TOTAL ABSTiNENCE is the only way to a faster recovery

Drygedene


Monty

save some money buy a pair of boxing gloves and stop masturbating.
71 UK, ED from 2011, unable to get full erection, Peyronies Disease from  2015 acute bend to left, VED & hand traction + 20mg of Tadalafil twice a week, or when i'm feeling lucky, forum member November 2017. Fav Film&Song, TheGoodTheBadThe Ugly. A Day in the Life

TonySa

What, stop masturbating?  NOT a Problem unless excessive and thereby being rough especially when not hard and causing damage.  Otherwise blood flow to the penis helps.
And traction is actually recommended in the acute stage...studies show success particularly early vs late.
VED is great, maybe also consider pentox and low dose daily cialis or viagra.
PxD 2 yrs 9/16.  Failed all treatment. 9/11/18: excision, grafting & implant Dr Karpman MtnView Ca, AMS CX 18cm + 3-1cm RTEs.
Pump failed.  2/11/20 Dr Karpman installed Titan 22cm +1cm RTE.

Paolo

Quality masturbation is good for the penis, use it or definitely lose it. Quality would be at least an 80% erection, this along with a good manual stretching technique is what's required. Never favour 'one' hand, alternating can avoid torsion of your dick, and a fleshlight is even better  ;)

A good manual stretching technique will also help things like night erections and morning wood, you body just seems to be more ready at anytime for sex doing this (and puts you in the mood) :)
Manual stretching is also important as you age as you lose 'smooth muscle' tissue  :(
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

JohnWright

The conversations about masturbation are always highly entertaining while being essentially bankrupt of any factual data. "Use it or lose it..." ROFL.

Popopo's original question is:  What device would be more helpful in his case?

TonySa

Actually there are correlational medical studies that support "use it or lose it" and none that show masturbation leads to, or exacerbates, peyronies unless done very roughly and/or when not erect.
PxD 2 yrs 9/16.  Failed all treatment. 9/11/18: excision, grafting & implant Dr Karpman MtnView Ca, AMS CX 18cm + 3-1cm RTEs.
Pump failed.  2/11/20 Dr Karpman installed Titan 22cm +1cm RTE.