Thinking I honestly might kill myself tonight...

[Michiganguy19]

Michiganguy

I suppose you wanted to make the topic useless by changing your post to "Void."
Luckily the topic name makes the topics still useful:

Thinking I honestly might kill myself tonight...

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[JohnWright]

Michiganguy - - here are two options for tonight:

1) http://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/#

2) I will private message you, also. Please read the message.

John

[nemo]

So you're considering suicide when the only thing you've tried is a bunch of supplements??? Son, that is a hellacious case of bad judgement.

If I read your case correctly, you have not tried: traction; VED; Pentox; Xiaflex; surgery; inflatable prosthesis implant.

That's about six strategies I'd want to investigate before I killed myself over Peyronies Disease because, for instance, there are guys walking around this very day who brag that their inflatable prosthesis implant is both undetectable by their partner and gives them erections they didn't even have when they were sixteen.

So don't do anything rash, man. You gotta think through the desperation here and look at what's available to you. We each do that.

Nemo

[NeoV]

The longest I measured was after Peyronie's. Traction and supplements will increase your length.
I also took pre workouts and a lot of stuff before and during when I got the disease, but now it's much better.

Even if you never have your exact original penis, your dick is likely to be healthier than a lot of guys' simply because you take care of it. You can always improve yourself and learn to attract more attractive women (personality and or appearance.) Having something naturally, be it good genetics or charisma, only gets you so far.

Girls don't even care about our penises. It's just a focal point which represents the rest of us. Would you be attracted to an overweight woman's vagina or a model's vagina, if the vagina looked the same? The woman makes the vagina, not the other way around. The same goes for our dick.

But I get how you feel, since I can't lift weights anymore either without hurting myself. It's as if life stole everything I ever wanted from me. It feels terrible, but I still look around and see myself better off than other men. It's given me an extreme determination to do well for myself regardless. I never learned how to attract women until after Peyronie's. And I don't mean just approach them and use the right methods, I mean constantly be in a positive state so that I feel good enough to pull them into my world consistently. I never get upset or sad about any of it, and I think Peyronie's made it easier, since it's forced me to need less and less from the world.  

[Stabler]

Girls don't even care about our penises. It's just a focal point which represents the rest of us. Would you be attracted to an overweight woman's vagina or a model's vagina, if the vagina looked the same? The woman makes the vagina, not the other way around. The same goes for our dick.

This is true.....
A woman of substance is not going to care about how big your penis is or even if you can have intercourse. I understand you are in a bad place but there are alot of options you have not tried yet to slow the progression of Peyronies. You are welcome to PM me if you need to or want to talk or just unload.

Stabler67

[LeeBee69]

I followed the doc's advice and took Trental for 9 months while my dick bent up to what is now 80 degs, maybe more, if I was in a relationship I'm pretty sure I couldn't have intercourse. Having read the advice from the long standing members on the forum (thanks guys!) I've started traction and heat. I'm trying not to get ahead of myself but it does seem to already have had a small effect after a short time. Read more, be patient, stick with it, you can achieve wonders with the human body if the mind believes it. In the last 9 years I've "beaten" T2 Diabetes and I will beat this...you can too man! There's just no quick fix for this one! Personnaly I put more store in what the "experts" in this forum say than the Doc's who just push drugs or surgery...

Hang in there!

Best,
LeeBee

[Paolo]

Michiganguy19, How are you?

I mean't to ask you on a previous reply if you have tried MSM (methylsulfonylmethane) for your joint problems? I am trying it in liquid form for joint pains and possible application with Iodine (Lugol's) topically on my penis.

A well-researched benefit of MSM is that it helps decrease joint inflammation, improves flexibility and restores collagen production.
Research shows that many patients with arthritis, joint pain, stiffness, knee/back problems and a limited range of motion experience a reduction in symptoms and improved quality of life when taking an MSM supplement.

It is also a very safe supplement.

Hope to hear from you  

[mischa]

My dick went from 5.5" to 5 in 3-4 weeks. I've lost girth from the hourglass affects and am frustrated as well. I've been married for 30 years and feel like I've let my wife down but we have sex anyway and both enjoy it. It's difficult because my ED is more frustrating then the Peyronies Disease. It can always be worse. I had a friend in the Air Force. We once double teamed a young lady (her request) and his dick (I asked later) was 4.5 inches but fatter then mine. The girl was as ok with it as he was. He just pounded like a jack hammer. He had what he was born with and had to live with it. Your life isn't over till it's over. You need to try everything!  And if nothing works see a specialist dick surgeon. Don't give up! I hope my example isn't too graphic - it proves the point.  

[Richard Hertz]

Wow, I just read this section.

Guess what? You are not your penis.

Peyronie's is simply collagen build-up in your penis. It can't stretch, so it bends. Where's the shame? It just happens to a lot of men, that's all.

Of course it bothered me a little at the beginning, because while I have no interest cheating on my wife, I want to feel like I could. But that was never the overwhelming feeling.

So I don't know what to say to people who are devastated, other than just to get a freaking grip! It's not the end of the world, and it's usually very treatable.

Sorry if I sound unsympathetic - it's easy to say this after you've had successful treatment - but it sounds like someone needs to say what I'm saying. Just cheer up!

[nemo]

It chills me to say this, but Michiganguy19's stats show he was last active on the evening he made this post. I hope that doesn't mean what I think it means, but it doesn't sound good.

Nemo

[Paolo]

I hope Michiganguy19 is okay to Nemo  

[peyronny]

I was wondering why it says void.

If you're still here I'm always available to talk.

Some months back I had plans to kill myself also. My situation is still bleak but I"m spending every moment I can to try and fix it.


I will say for everytime I'm rock bottom, think I'm completely ruined I at least eventually find myself back to where I was previously. I have chronic penile pain and everytime I feel a particularly sharp pain I worry if it's getting worse. But after all this I can at least form an erection, and feel aroused. Everytime I feel like something has damaged or gotten worse I'm afraid even that is gone. I have accepted however difficult it is I'll probably die a virgin. But I still have a fight in me and I'm gonna find someone and at least please them even if I can't use my dick.


However bad your situation is, I've been there. I had letters written to people, I was researching quickest/painless ways to do it. Part of the reason I even made a date and posted about it here was because I wanted to hold myself to it. I wanted to die so much that it was like a contract, and I'd seem like a liar or crying wolf if I didn't. And here I am several months later and I guess I did.

If you focus on letting go of what can't be changed, focusing on what can it at least gives your life purpose. My situation feels so hopelessly bleak. It's a literal nightmare. Sometimes I wonder if I'm being punished for a past life. But there are still bright spots, moments of joy however small they might be.

Also, it always helps to enjoy the simple things in life. My life still sucks but I can still enjoy just music, movies, youtube, etc. As awful at this is there are people who are born without a penis and they still find reasons to live. I'm not sure if you're in pain or not but they say that always gets better with time.

[Stabler]

Michiganguy has not returned to this topic but is posting elsewhere on the forum

[Paolo]

peyronny, a great inspirational post, keep posting