ED medications--not ejaculating

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peyronny

This may be a stupid question. But just wondering.

If you were to take an ED med (Cialisis, Viagra, etc.) but do not ejaculate will the erection not go away on it's own? Do you have to ejaculate to avoid the 4 hour erection issue? That's my main question, will the erection go away on it's own or do you *need* to ejaculate.

Is anyone on any of these drugs but not actually sexually active? Is anyone single and on these drugs?

I'm having trouble coping with this emotionally. And those pictures I posted some weeks ago--it's still getting worse. Seeing a full erection right now would make me feel relieved too.

And I keep making it worse by checking it. I hate myself. Everytime I do this it gets worse but my anxiety levels are at an all time high.

I've even joined Asexual dating site communities. I'm tried of being alone.

Ironically my fear of this condition making me impotent forever---may have made me impotent. I have severe OCD and I literally haven't thought about anything but this for the past year. I can't enjoy anything. And all these supplements are making me horny but I can't do anything about it.

I'll be completely honest. I've thought of killing myself and the only thing keeping me from doing it is the fear of hell for doing it.

Everytime I feel a slight improvement, I take 10 steps backwards and it's worse than it was before.

I still wake up with erections so I'm assuming with ED medications at least I can get hard. But when I look at it I don't see penetration being possible. I'm not even able to masturbate because the skin isn't flexible enough. It's too dented and filled with plaques to even masturbate on my own.

I know I couldn't pleasure a woman anyways. My dick is so small when I showed the pictures people thought I wasn't even erect. But I always thought we could make it work with dildos, strap ons, etc.

There is a girl interested in me long distance I met on a dating site. She keeps saying she loves me. I don't love her. We don't even know eachother and don't have any common interests But I think maybe I should just be with her because I'm tried of this loneliness and she doesn't seem to care about this when I told her. She must be just as lonely and desperate as I am. I'm not even ready for a relationship though. All I would do is cry and vent to them like I do on these forums. But when I think of this woman I feel nothing. I've been in love once before, and it was magical. I just feel numb when I think about her. I feel more like a woman now. I'm emotionally needy.

All I want is to love, be loved, and to be able to make love. I don't care about money. I don't even care what a woman looks like as long as I can am able to make love. The one thing I've always wanted is a relationship and sex more than anything. If I won the lottery right now I wouldn't be happy. Nothing can make me happy. I take sleeping pills just to get through the day because I don't want to be alive anymore.

I sleep like 12-15 hours a day. I wish I could sleep 24 hours a day. I wake up just to eat my raw veggies and salads. Then I go back to bed. I'm so unhappy that it's better to just dream.

I'm honestly not trying to be melodramatic here. It just feels like my life is meaningless now. I've had tons of other health issues in the past. I consider myself a strong person. But this is too much for me. I feel like I can't breathe.

I avoid even looking at women now. I wish I could be gay. I've actually tried. But I'm repulsed by the male form.

I've resorted to venting about this to my own mother. I feel like I'm spamming the board with my personal problems. But I think my situation is much differnet. I've never heard of anyone else getting these injuries on weekly or more basis. I think I may have the worst case of peyronies in human history. Some of them heal over faster than others but I have at least 7-8 different plaques. Any my penis is tiny so basically the whole thing.

I've never considered myself a religious person. But I've always believed in God. I've tried praying, begging. I've tried changing myself to be a better person in general. But I can't take this pain anymore. I'd rather be deaf. At least I could read lips and read captions on movies. I'd rather have cancer. At least then you get sympathy and support from family. I'd rather rather lose my arm, lets, an eye. With this people expect me to go on like normal but are repulsed if I tell them what's going on.

I've been working towards this goal of finding a girlfriend and dealing with issues my whole life. Now that goal isn't even possible because if we can't make love it would just be frustrating.


popopo

I don't know about viagra, but I heard the effect is like stronger but for a shorter period compared to cialis. With cialis I notice that I get an erection more easily, but it only happens if I'm in the mood. It doesn't make you more horny or anything and in my experience it only works if you are allready. When you get an erection it's stronger and won't go down as easily. Other than that you won't get painfull erections or anything or 4 hour erections unless you take to much or you're like very sensitive for it or something.
Age: 25
Date of onset: 17
Symptoms: sharp pains, numbness, change in shape/size, hourglassing and discolaration from jelqing/VED usage as a teen. Diagnosed with a venous leak and possible scarring.
Treatments tried: cialis, pentox and VED didnt help

PeetyPeet

Hi Peyronny,

I've not taken Viagra but I've taken Cialis regularly for years. Cialis requires arousal to work. Either sexual arousal or the kind of arousal that gives you nocturnal erections. Whether you ejaculate or not makes little difference. Once you have stopped being aroused your erection will subside. Priapism is rare.

I imagine Viagra and other oral PDE5 inhibitors work the same way.

Regarding your emotions - I think most men on this forum have felt like this at some time or other. I can certainly sympathise with simultaneously longing after after a relationship while avoiding romantic encounters completely.

It also sounds like you might be suffering from clinical depression - you need / want to sleep for so long, for example. It might be worth approaching a professional about this. There's no shame in doing so.

Good luck

Peety

popopo

What you feel is normal. This hits you right in the manhood. I feel the same way and I don'tdate either. It's useless for me because I don't want a sexless relationship. May I ask how old you are? I'm 21 and my motivation is my future. I can do a lot of things now. It's veru hard and I smoke too much, but I also work a little and I try to save money for later. I also workout and do anything to make sure that once I get cured I don't have other even bigger issues like no money, no job, no friends and family. In the end you have to control the emotions. You can feel horrible and cry, but you also need to continue because there is no other and giving up will only cause more suffering.
Age: 25
Date of onset: 17
Symptoms: sharp pains, numbness, change in shape/size, hourglassing and discolaration from jelqing/VED usage as a teen. Diagnosed with a venous leak and possible scarring.
Treatments tried: cialis, pentox and VED didnt help

peyronny

I'm 26.

This started back in 2012 so i was just a year above you. I didn't know what was going on and just ignored it for a while. The small lump was there for about a year until it hardened completely. It was just a weird thing that made it harder to masturbate, but I still could. I had ED so often masturbated without an erection until it "built up." Ever since taking all these supplements the ED was essentially cured. However every once in a while I would feel pain masturbating or when ejaculating. I probably had some traumas that I ignored or thought would get better on there own. At this point it wasn't a huge issue in my life and never thought it would be like this.

This year though it took a toll for the worst.


I thought about seeing a therapist. I don't want on any meds thought becuase I don't want to be numbed to this and no longer want to address it. Something for OCD so at least I won't "check" it all the time and make it worse might would be beneficial. But anti-depressants can lower libido and what not. But other things make it worse too. Bending down, coughing, sneezing, even LAUGHING makes these plaques hurt. I'm completely serious. I have to try and stifle my own laughs. How am I even supposed to survive? I'm unable to even laugh for relief from this sadness without pain. There are plaques all over so any little thing I do can aggravate them. Anything at all that puts slight pressure on the area even on accident. And I'm thinking sex all the time. I watch porn just to test my erections. But I can't do it long because masturbation isn't good right now, touching it at all isn't good. I gave in a few times and rubbed the back to get off. But I always regret it after ejaculation. If I just had one bend or one plaque I could cope. I probably have around 10 minimum.

I'm also finding that I need more hardcore porn to get aroused. I'm disgusted by my own dreams. But a least they make me aroused.

Even just a few months ago, I could get turned on just looking at a woman's face. The peyronies sucked but I had no problem getting erections. I was just concerned rather I could penetrate or not and this off and on numbness I've been getting. Now through my own manic thoughts I've damaged it EVEN more.

I'm having nightmares about this. I have tons of sexual dreams and wake up with my plaques feeling like they are going to tear through my skin. But then I have ones where I'm in a hospital bed, look down and my penis is completely removed. Or I have ones where my dick is bending and breaking every which way like the spoon from the Matrix.

I've seriously considered asking them to just perform surgery to remove it. I used to enjoy other things besides just sexual thoughts. Now my dick is making it impossible to enjoy anything.


Does anyone else have this amount of different plaques? Even flaccid the whole thing just looks swollen and lumpy.

popopo

Hey man, I have pain too but not as severe ad you I think. Do you still get aroused? I've heard it's not good to masterbate only to check for erections. It might be a good idea to try and masterbate less and when you do onky do it because you're aroused without the need of porn. When you wait long enough it wll happen. The reason I say this is because obviously you would have less friction on your penis by mastedbsting less and you'll be able to relax more wich might help your pelvic floor muscles to relax too giving you better chance at getting a solid erection. It's nit a cure for peyronies or anytging but it might help to limit inflammation.
Age: 25
Date of onset: 17
Symptoms: sharp pains, numbness, change in shape/size, hourglassing and discolaration from jelqing/VED usage as a teen. Diagnosed with a venous leak and possible scarring.
Treatments tried: cialis, pentox and VED didnt help

peyronny

Yeah I haven't been lately. Everytime I did I regretted it so stopped. I still try to get a

I can still feel the feeling of arousal, but getting an erection is very difficult now. When I try on my own they aren't full. Sometimes I wake up with a full erection. But the curve and deformity has gotten much worse.

Problem is due to my weight little things can cause pain or more trauma..just walking a certain way, bending over, standing up not carefully. Anything that would make my legs move towards that area. My penis is completely buried when flaccid. It's a common condition with overweight people, but mine is severe. If you saw me flaccid you would think I didn't even have a penis. So walking, sitting down, anything where my balls move around can cause more pain and maybe more damage.

I have 2 upcoming appointments. One is a sex dysfunction doctor close by. Then a week after that I have a Dr. Morganstern's office in Atlanta. I'm hoping they can do something for me.

I just want to be able to know I can have sex. I would deal with the pain the rest of my life if I knew I could.

The worst part of the pain for me isn't the pain itself. It's knowing that the pain is probably causing more damage.  

jj21

Peyronny,

I'm sorry to hear about your situation but believe me things can get better. I've read many stories of people who have had success with traction, VED, vitamins etc and Pentox....So don't give up.

As you've suggested you may have suicidal thoughts - I HIGHLY recommend you see a therapist as soon as possible. There should be a mental health plan or something like that where the government can subside some of your fees.

As for the cialis - it will require stimulation to work so you aren't at risk of a constant erection. After ejaculating it is easier to maintain a new erection as opposed to being without cialis you usually have to wait a few minutes before round two. Other than that you should be absolutely fine.

I noticed you're looking at dating again, some women can be understanding and actually prefer a man who isn't obsessed with sex all the time and is sensitive and caring. So keep your head up.

Best of luck
JJ
34 Years Old...Peyronies for 4 years. 20 Degree left and upwards curvature, major dents and narrowing, ED.

Implant + Tunica Expansion Procedure, 7th Feb 2023, Titan 22cm +1cm RTE, Partial revision 27th June 23 (fix pump, remove 10ml reservoir).

Hawk

I notice he has not logged in in two months.  The good news is that with ED and Peyronies Disease the worst case scenario is that you can always get an implant and it can be almost like a miracle so Peyronny always has that option in reserve.
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
Hawk - Updated 10/27/18 - Peyronies Society Forums