New member in Seattle

[Rhino]

64 years old, divorced and no sex for almost 9 years. Maybe 1.5 years ago, possibly more, I noticed pain just below the head, then over the next days or maybe even weeks, I noticed some narrowing in that area, kind of an hourglass shape. Didn't know what to do, thought it would just go away. Then one morning I woke up with an erection and noticed the penis was curving upward. There was no pain at that point. I did some web searching and figured it was probably Peyronie's but didn't do anything. I was in denial, I guess.

Anyway, I think the bending may have now progressed. I would guess, just eyeballing it, that it is curved 30-45% And now I am very interested in a particular woman. We haven't had sex yet and I haven't told her anything about this.

I am going to start on the recommended supplements and look for a doc who will prescribe Pentox. I also just started taking Cialis for ED.

Questions:
1. Can anybody recommend a doctor close to Seattle?
2.  I see here recommendations to get a VED. Why? To get an erection in order to have sex? That is what I am taking Cialis for (hope it works - I started 2 days ago with 5 mg, will take more if necessary.)
3. What are the "plaque stretching exercises" that are mentioned in the article "Intimacy, Sexuality, and Peyronies Disease"? Do they work?
4. What is stressing me out most at the moment is discussing this with my new love interest. We have a date tomorrow and sex seems like a distinct possibility very soon. Do I bring it up before things get hot and heavy? "Hey, just thought I'd mention, I have a curvy dick and this might feel funny"? Argh... Saying nothing is another option, but how is she going to react when she grabs my dick? "Hey, what the hell is wrong with your penis?" Or: "Uh, you know, on second thought, I'm not really in the mood after all. Can you leave now?" Double argh...
She actually is a very sweet lady, and a former nurse, so I suspect she would be understanding, but I am struggling to know how and when to bring this up.

[Rhino]

Also, where do you get the heat treatment? And same question about traction. Are there articles about these treatments on this site?

[LWillisjr]

This is our current list, I really haven't heard of anyone in the Seattle area.
https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,4063.0.html

Look in the Resource Library for studies on using traction. And we have a whole board dedicated to the topic of traction.

[NeoV]

I was unable to find a competent urologist in Seattle. I cannot say however, that there are none. In most cases you will be referred to the men's health clinic in the University of Washington.
I recommend seeing a specialist elsewhere who is known for their Peyronie's research specifically. I'm from just north of Seattle.

When it comes to sex, don't take it seriously. After you have sex with beautiful women (repeatedly), you will find it that it was a joke all along, and suddenly you realize why beautiful people are so relaxed and at ease about sex. It's just a silly thing, not serious. Just tell her "it really sucks but my penis hurts a bit, so I have to be careful, I'm still very turned on by you though and definitely want you." Don't let it be a barrier in any way, and don't expect her to say no. It's like if you were about to have sex with a beautiful girl, only for her to say that sex hurt because she has chronic pelvic pain. You would never say no right? It's the same for a girl who likes you, no reason she will say no if she likes you. Girls do not care about your penis that much, as much as we hate to believe that because we have been so programmed to think so. Be at ease buddy!

I used to purposely point out the bend before having sex with a new girl, telling her it was a pain but I was dealing with it anyway. Realize that I am originally a shy, socially awkward nerd who is addicted to video games. I have been negative, depressed, and needy all my life, and finally turned it around completely two or so years ago. I have said it before, but I have used my Peyronie's as a pickup line and it has worked multiple times, telling very attractive and young girls that I actually can't have sex, only for them to ask to come home with me. The women I was seeing were all 20 years old or slightly over, at their sexual peaks. At your age (I don't know about this of course), I would imagine women are much more at ease about sex and not expecting something unrealistic.

VED is for VED therapy, not only for achieving an erection. This is a physical therapy for the penis, which is useful for bringing oxygen rich blood into the penis and filling out dents. Be very careful with this. Stretching does work, as studies on traction have demonstrated. There are no studies on manual traction via hand stretching, but of course it works the same way traction does, one just needs to be VERY careful, since it can cause more problems as any penile manipulation can. Manual traction smoothed out my curve and made my penis almost entirely straight. It is the best therapy in my own opinion.

[Stabler]

NeoV is correct....

We do not fixate on the penis. it is not the be all and end all for us, please dont stress yourself out about this. Women, good women are not going to turn you away because of Peyronies.

Stabler67

[Rhino]

NeoV,

Thanks, that was helpful. Can you tell me more about manual traction? Where can I get info on how to do it? I take it you feel that it works better than VED therapy? Would you recommend doing both VED therapy and manual traction?

>VED is for VED therapy, not only for achieving an erection. This is a physical therapy for the penis, which is useful for bringing oxygen rich blood into the penis and filling out dents. Be very careful with this. Stretching does work, as studies on traction have demonstrated. There are no studies on manual traction via hand stretching, but of course it works the same way traction does, one just needs to be VERY careful, since it can cause more problems as any penile manipulation can. Manual traction smoothed out my curve and made my penis almost entirely straight. It is the best therapy in my own opinion.
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[NeoV]

Sorry for not noticing this post Rhino. I plan to create a manual traction post when I find some time, but in general there is method that fits all. The most important rule is to be careful and persistent. I'll let you know when I post some info on it! It still helps me daily to overcome my symptoms, even if only for several minutes here and there.

[Ponyboy]

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Hi Neo, I'm wondering why you say there are no competent uroligists in Seattle? JohnW had surgery there and seems like he had amazing results there. I'm going to see them in a couple weeks and am very optimistic. Sounds like the best place in the state from all my searching and it's just not possible for me to travel, I'll know more in a couple weeks though and keep everyone informed.

[JohnWright]

I'll chime in here -- The members of this sacred Forum do have keen insight and a ton of experience. No doubt. But, there's an anti-surgery thread that runs deep here. So, it stands to reason that knowing who is who in the modern world might not be a strong suit. Modern = last eight years or so.

There are additional Male Sexual Health specialists who have emerged, highly experienced, and as passionate about my male apparatus as I. But dang if I'm not picky, and my standards are extremely high. And, I've had loved ones who have barely escaped the clutches of the medical establishment in general.

So, in the research I did leading up to surgery, I found three world-class Male Sexual Health surgeons that I would have entrusted my body to: Dr Gelman in Orange, California; Dr Andrew Kramer, Baltimore, Maryland; and Dr Thomas Walsh, Seattle, Washington.

I had to visit a number of plain old urologists to begin the weeding out process. And, I suffered more than one worthless office visit in order to cull out the losers.

By the time I was ready to proceed, I was euphoric that I had found three Male Sexual Health surgeons who specialize in the male dick. And, who wanted my personal sexual experience to be optimum. Just amazing.

Dr Walsh works at the University of Washington Men's Health Center, and my experience was world-class with that team, from A to Z in the process, and from stem to stern in my male anatomy.

@ Ponyboy:  If you PM me, I'll send you additional info that I found helpful in building my confidence about these three Male Sexual Health specialists.

John

[Jonbinspain]

John W;

I'm not of the view that we are necessarily anti surgery, but it is considered that it's the last resort, depending on your condition and what stage of the disease you're at.

My personal experience was of medical ignorance and incompetence, combined with lack of awareness on my own part, and also badly calcified plaque. I tried anything and everything for the best part of 4 yrs before finally admitting defeat and submitting to surgery last November.